Proving youself to people

[AngelusPUA]

Just today I was banned from a popular up and coming success website because I refused to send the moderator my picture. The moderator gave me an ultimatum prove my identity or be banned, I told him

“I am not going to demean myself so I can prove who I am to the likes of you”

I personally do not think a real man would grovel at someone else’s feet to prove their identity to him. I stood my ground and told him “no I am not going to prove myself to you” so he banned me.

That’s life though ignorant people make ignorant choices.

I think this is an important lesson in life though, a real man should never feel the need to prove himself to anybody. This is what seduction books teach us to do they teach us that we need to prove ourselves worthy of a women’s time. Seduction books tell us to use C+F and to use canned lines and 101 other useless techniques; this is all self destructive behavior and it is not the behavior of a man. People here pretend to be somebody they are not to prove to girls that they are worthy.

A true man doesn’t need to prove himself to anybody, he knows who he is and he is comfortable with it. He doesn’t pretend to be someone his not, he doesn’t try to win a girls approval a real man is pursued by women because they are naturally attracted to him, not because he uses seduction techniques.

Most of these seduction artists do exactly that, they put on a fake persona every time they go out. They preach one thing (make women qualify to you) but what they do is play by the women’s game. They pretend to be somebody they are not so they can prove to women that they are worthy.

DO NOT EVER FEEL THE NEED THAT YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOURSELF TO ABYBODY

Stop reading books on seduction, stop using canned lines and become a real man.

 

[Krassus]

Sorry guys, but he's a fake.

He has another account on this board that he hasn't used for a year. Look up "angelus." On that account, he claims to be five years older than he currently says he is. He registered the same two accounts on WSA as well, pic here:

[link removed by moderator to protect privacy]

Note how both of the emails have his name listed as Nick/Nicolas, and he claims to be named Tony. Also, check out one of his FRs, where he tells the girl his name is Levi.

He just got banned from WSA. Click the pic below for a better list of reasons as to why:

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/669/2bu9.jpg

Sorry guys. End of story. Please notify the admin here so that he may take the appropriate actions.

P.S. I just realized that he has posted nearly 600 messages here in under a month. My god. Angelus, please seek professional help.

 

[FightinTiger]

I fully agree, but as I said in another post, "being a man" is an advanced level topic. what the hell does that mean? beginners to the "game" need canned lines, and seduction techniques to build confidence.

what does a man say? good canned lines are a good IDEA of what a "man" says.

what does a man do? seduction techniques (well, besides hypnosis) are good EXAMPLES of what real "men" do.

AFC's need a platform to sort of "boost" off of. these canned lines might work wonderfully for a while, and, yes, eventually he'll find that they're not effective. but, they're a confidence booster.

a guy learnes a good canned line, and approaches a girl in a bar for the first time in 6 months. ieven IF he gets rejected, it's still better than wussing out for the 50th time. it's a start, and, through perseverance, you find out what works for you.

a lot of great pickup artists DO have default "lines" that they have when they can't think of anything else. And these are tools to get the conversation started. just saying "be a man" doesn't help someone. they need an idea of what an ATTRACTIVE man IS.

 

[everywomanshero]

This is starting to remind me of BlackItalionNinja

 

[Randomer]

lol... How ironic is his post seeming right now to everybody then? wow! rofl and that was a really ellaborate story he made up about his life... wow. How funny that he was revealed during this thread

To reply to Angelus though... extremes are bad, mmmkay? According to your post, you must not feel the need to sign checks either? Why prove to the bank that it is actually you cashing them, right? What's so demeaning about proving you are who you are through a picture anyway? :crazy:

 

[AngelusPUA]

The guy that use to post here called Angelus has a diffrent writting style to me and he asked for advice, I have never asked for advice.

You people make me sick all I did here was try to help people become successful I never asked for money never asked for anything in return. Not once, I took time out of my schedule and helped people out privately and on the public forum. I gave good advice on trading that only somebody who genuinely rades would know.

Then to be ridiculed like this by a self absorbed prick like Krassus because I wouldn't send him my picture.

What kind of a low life runs IP checks and tries to publicly attack a stranger because I did not send him a picture of me?

I have nothing to prove to any of you I don't need to show you my credentials or prove who I am I think people would take solace in the fact that they are receiving good advice and being inspired to get into a business that can make them millionaires.

You will notice I never asked anybody here for anything I had an idea to help people the way that I was never helped to sucked and I get bombarded with requests to prove my identity by Krassus.

I have never and will never demean myself to prove who I am. I made over 200 posts giving FOREX advice to people.

If you ever want advice as good as the advice I gave on FOREX you will have to pay a trader thousands. Just the fact that I know what I know speaks volumes about who I am……..

I registered 2 accounts on WSA I never received a confirmation email for the first AngelusPUA so I just changed it to Angelus and registered another account under a different email.

My middle name is Antonio so I use Tony sometimes and on the net I use Levi and Angelus as pseudonyms.

Angelus was the name of a character from the popular TV Series Buffy.

 

[everywomanshero]

If a dude asked me for my photos, I'd be a little concerned too. I'm not that kind of guy.

 

[Ace of Flames]

I believe Angelus is who he is, just because money usually makes people supremely ****y, and he has both. Lol, no offense meant.

I do agree with Krassus on the fact that just under 600 posts in a month is very, very crazy. How do you manage your business or whatever it is you do if you spend so much time posting on here? Even if you only give advice and don't ask for it, 600 threads aren't made in a month. That's an exaggeration, but you get what I'm saying. Slow down a little man.

 

[AngelusPUA]

Honestly I trade between 6-9 hours a day in those 6-9 hours I will only enter 1-5 trades. This means while I am sitting here watching graphs I have plenty of time to post on forums. I have to be at my computer for those 9 hours so when I am doing nothing I will makes posts.

 

[AngelusPUA]

Krassus wants me to send him pictures of me inside my house or pictures of my house.

He wouldn’t shut up so I sent him a screenshot of my trading platform which has close to 3 million in it and he still pursues this personal vendetta. Ever since I started speaking to him he seemed jealous that I was younger and richer than him.

He said things like "I thought I was the only one my age that had money"

He is on a personal vendetta to discredit me out of jealousy and the second he got the slightest bit of ammo (the fact that I wouldn’t send him my picture) he lashed out like a child and personally attacked me on a public forum.

He is Immature.

 

[timeforacatnap]

Honestly I trade between 6-9 hours a day in those 6-9 hours I will only enter 1-5 trades. This means while I am sitting here watching graphs I have plenty of time to post on forums. I have to be at my computer for those 9 hours so when I am doing nothing I will makes posts.

^^^^this is you 'proving yourself to the likes of you' inorder to reason against ace of flames comment about you post 600posts.

there are times when what you say is true, how ever there are also time when you need to be open enough to be willing to prove yourself, eg, if an HB comes up to me and starts trying top get me to prove myself, i'll usually either call her on her **** "i'm not your danceing monkey' or get her to qualify to me first so she throws a tension loop and i throw one out in return, if she complys then i will comply.


however when i instruct newbies on my bootcamp (www.thelss.com, i run a bootcamp on this forum, if anyof youare interested, sign up mentioning you know timeforacatnap), sometime newbies want me to prove my skill to them, whilst i dont like to do this, it is important that the newbie can see that i can back up what i teach and that i know what i'm talking about, and more over, that the stuff works, this helps them dramatically and boosts their trust with you and their motivation. so in this case i always 'prove myself' as it will help them, besides, i know how good i am, why should it matter either way?


you go on about a true man and all that, surely a true man is also a natural leader, thus, a leader leads from the front, by example, thus based on your argument a leade by leading from the front is poving himself, and thus based on that, how can he be a 'true man'

your argument is flawed, and i for one think you just a KJ with too much time.

 

[AngelusPUA]

All that I took from your post is that you do not like to prove yourself yet you do it.

For me its different I do not like to prove myself and I don't do it.

 

[AngelusPUA]

The point is I never questioned anybody in this forum and all I have done is help people. I have given invaluable financial advice and opened a door that was closed for many people without once asking for anything in return.

Krassus started these personal attacks because I refused to send him a picture of me because I did not believe it was right. He then went and publicly attacked me and I am the one who is ridiculed all this because I won’t send my pictures to a complete stranger to prove my identity.

What kind of a low life checks your IP address and publicly attacks you than 10 min later privately emails you saying “I am very sorry for accusing you but I feel that it was my duty”?

What kind of a sick person does that?

 

[timeforacatnap]

All that I took from your post is that you do not like to prove yourself yet you do it.

For me its different I do not like to prove myself and I don't do it.

thats where your wrong, you do prove yourself, all the time, despite not liking to, if you want ppl to respect you, you have to be prepared to prove yourself to them, for you an example would be to think about when you went o an interview for your job, that is a point where you ahve to prove yourself, another may be the first few weeks at that job, you again have to prove yourself to show others youa re the right choice and a variety of other reasons.

sometime you need to be prepared to prove yourself to those who really dont deserve you to prove it, but by doing so youa re vindicating yourself and allowing them the chance to accept that they made a mistake.

 

[Ace of Flames]

There are times to prove yourself and times to refuse. It depends on the circumstances.

If someone just wants to get something out of you, or to make fun of you and pressures you into proving yourself, then that's when you refuse. They aren't worth it.

But in cases like timeforacatnap said, where someone wants help from you or to be taught by you, they need to know that they're trusting someone that can actually help them. This is something like a degree, or a license. I wouldn't want, say, a lifeguard to be watching over me if they haven't had any kind of training. I need that reassurance that they can do the job they've claimed they can handle. If the pool only hires trained lifeguards, and they require proof of training before they hire, like a lifeguard license (if such a thing exists), then that's all the proof I need from them. They have the job at that pool, so they obviously qualify.

Make sense?

 

[AngelusPUA]

Ok that makes perfect sense and I agree, If I am giving financial advice people should know I am financially successful. I will send anybody who asks screenshots of my multiple FOREX trading accounts the money in there ranges from 100k to 3 mill.

Since you guys saw my email address that Krauss posted which has my full name, which is a breach of privacy as I didn’t give permission for that email address to be shown. Krauss I am warning you now remove that image of my email address I am considering suing you and what kind of lawyers do you think a millionaire has? Ponder that

 

[Titanium]

This is a public message board. No one is obliged to disclose their true identification, their location, or their photo. Fuk that. Privacy in this kind of a medium is a personal right.

I would never offer out such information, myself. For my user names and emails, I use different names that are not even close to my real name. This is to protect my privacy. I know lots of users that do the same – it shouldn’t create any suspicion.

AngelusPUA, based on what I’ve read here, its seems strange that you got banned from that other board. Unless I’m missing something really big, the reasons just don’t add up to be anything significant to me.

Since I don’t know you - I really don’t know if you’re for real or not. Your story does sound grandiose in nature….but either way…I hope you’re still around when I wake up tomorrow. I don’t give a sh*t if you’re rich or not, the trading information that you’ve posted has been interesting.

 

[AngelusPUA]

I told him I didn't want to send him my pictures and in retaliation he has posted my email address which contains my full name on a public forum I probably will sue this guy for breach of privacy.

As the owner of a site he has a moral code not to reveal the personal information of the people on his site. He has breached that moral code so I am willing and ready to sue him to the full extent of the law.

If he appeases me by removing that picture and giving me a public apology I might reconsider taking that course of action but as of now as soon as I am back in Australia I will contact my lawyer.

 

[Ace of Flames]

Owned. :cheer:

Well, about to be.

 

[AngelusPUA]

This is an anonymous forum I use a pseudonym (or three) and I enjoy my privacy. I definitely do not want to post pictures of myself or my house like Krassus requested. I am not sending pictures of my residence to a complete stranger. I sent him a screenshot of my trading platform and he still wasn't happy with that.

I enjoy my privacy I have just completed a deal on a private, secluded villa in Marbella Spain, he wants me to take pictures of it and send it to him.

That is crazy if I asked you for a picture of your home would you give it to me?

The guy is mentally unstable he runs a check on my IP etc he releases personal information about me on a public forum.

I am going to sue him that’s it, he betrayed my confidence I signed up to his website and he released private, sensitive information. If he does not make a public apology and retract that picture within the next few hours I will sue him and even if he does I will still consider suing him.

I do not have to send him my picture if I don’t want to and he certainly should not react that way just because I didn’t send him my picture. He has a twisted mind asking me to invade my own privacy and when I refuse he attacks me.