Provider Male vs. Alpha??

[zekko]

On the other hand, if given to him through family, inheritance or a lotto win, then I don't see how that would be anything he should feel proud of. Do you?

I wouldn't know, my family was poor. But it was intact. But I could see being proud of what you do with a windfall (investing it smartly, starting your own business, etc).

 

[member162951]

I wouldn't know, my family was poor. But it was intact. But I could see being proud of what you do with a windfall (investing it smartly, starting your own business, etc).

Of course! But that's different from having it all handed to you on a silver platter and doing nothing but spending it (unwisely) and assuming you're "high status" because of it.

However, there are women who would be impressed by it but make no mistake, they are not impressed by you as a man, they're impressed by your money and family connections if that's where your money/status came from.

Again, assuming you do nothing with it.

 

[BeExcellent]

Wow what a shjt show @The Duke. In my estimation they all have issues, but the doctor and the side chick are malicious in intent to some degree or other, and clearly don’t care about people beyond themselves.

Bob is innocent or unaware of his role in things. He’s likely a clueless man who *thinks* everything is Ok. Hard not to feel sympathy for him despite his cluelessness.

Side chick is probably good looking and she may be thinking (however delusionally) that doc is going to accept her as a branch swing because she’s banging him. Most women think this, because they over value their sexual appeal, which honestly is a commodity for a desirable man, and a physician is a valuable man to many women independent of anything else. Add some physical attractiveness and his value is raised even moreso. She is a POS with no character and she will never win him.

Doc is a POS too. My guess is the GF is not aware of the side chick, but in time she will become aware if side chick spills the beans. There are 2 people and some kids that are at risk of really being hurt here, and 2 POS people who don’t care about anything but themselves.

Ugly situation. Make popcorn.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Affairs have a root cause, no woman cheats for the hell of it.

In my experience they do it just for excitement. See if they can get away with it.

 

[Barrister]

There are 2 beta males here. There's a Greater Beta and a Lesser Beta.

John the mid-40s doctor is a beta male. He's a Greater Beta. He uses money to get laid. Without the money and status of being a doctor, he would likely be an Average Frustrated Chump who could be borderline incel. John is at least in good shape and not a pushover but he mainly gets laid from money and status rather than purely on looks.

The Lesser Beta is Beta Bob, who is married to John's side piece who John impregnated in the past.

As a doctor, he likely has a good deal of social proof assuming he is not a complete hermit. It gets hard to sometimes clearly delineate money and social proof since they are, in many ways, inter-connected -- especially in the dating world.

 

[CornbreadFed]

The PUA gurus completely butchered the terms Alpha and Beta and now everyone is going around misusing the terms. Being a provider should not be seen as negative. Men provide for their families; leaders provide for their communities. If you are providing for someone abusing your generosity then you are a fvcking idiot wihtout a spine, not a beta male.

Alpha Male- is the leader of the Betas, Deltas, and Omegas. Therefore, an alpha male need to have relatable qualities of these types to properly lead and provide for them. Yes, Alpha males are providers, a terrible alpha male that doesn't provide for his community gets demoted or guillotined.

Beta Male- Beta Males are Alphas in training or males trying to become the alpha male. Beta Males are not weak men and are more dangerous than Alpha Males because they will harm you if you are in their pathway to becoming an Alpha male.

Sigma Male- This is what is incorrectly labeled an Alpha male by the PUA and Manosphere. Sigma Males possess alpha traits, but they do not prefer to lead. They are either independent or act as consuls to the Alpha or Beta Males.

Delta Male- This is what is incorrectly labeled as a Beta Male. Delta Males are the NPCs, the filler of environments, the sheep.

Omega Male- The outcasts and deplorables of society. Your typical incels!

Zeta Male- These are non-established alpha males in conflict with the current alpha male in charge for power

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

The PUA gurus completely butchered the terms Alpha and Beta and now everyone is going around misusing the terms. Being a provider should not be seen as negative. Men provide for their families; leaders provide for their communities. If you are providing for someone abusing your generosity then you are a fvcking idiot wihtout a spine, not a beta male.

Alpha Male- is the leader of the Betas, Deltas, and Omegas. Therefore, an alpha male need to have relatable qualities of these types to properly lead and provide for them. Yes, Alpha males are providers, a terrible alpha male that doesn't provide for his community gets demoted or guillotined.

Beta Male- Beta Males are Alphas in training or males trying to become the alpha male. Beta Males are not weak men and are more dangerous than Alpha Males because they will harm you if you are in their pathway to becoming an Alpha male.

Sigma Male- This is what is incorrectly labeled an Alpha male by the PUA and Manosphere. Sigma Males possess alpha traits, but they do not prefer to lead. They are either independent or act as consuls to the Alpha or Beta Males.

Delta Male- This is what is incorrectly labeled as a Beta Male. Delta Males are the NPCs, the filler of environments, the sheep.

Omega Male- The outcasts and deplorables of society. Your typical incels!

Zeta Male- These are non-established alpha males in conflict with the current alpha male in charge for power

Interesting, thanks.

 

[The Duke]

Think about the time a woman cheated on you, on anybody else. The guy either failed to

- Vet her properly, missed obvious red flags that she was like that
- He fell off the wagon, became a bored guy, fat, unattractive, stopped being the guy he was with her, stopped putting the effort
- The guys was a cheater too or insecure, needy, and was a turn off

When a woman sees you as her best hypergamy option, she will not cheat. Your job is keep being the best, in which in today's world, is pretty easy.

Not disagreeing here, but you are applying rational man logic. There can be other reasons why as well. Some day when you have a few long term relationships fail with a lot more at stake you will see. It's what I tried to tell you the other day.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I'm not saying those are the only reasons. But every man I know has been cheated on by his woman, has had a combo of those traits that I wrote. Of course there are women who are 304 in nature, but its the guy's fault for getting his time, and see what's she is like before getting into a relationship with her. If you make a bee your girlfriend, sooner or later you're gonna get stung.

Any guy can get cheated on. Nothing makes you immune to it.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Any guy can get cheated on. Nothing makes you immune to it.

Ethical Non-Monogamy?

 

[CornbreadFed]

I’ve been lucky enough to have my first LTR cheat on me during college. I’ve had 3 LTR’s since each were 3+ years, who were extremely loyal. I’ll count my lucky stars, but I have been browsing these forums since 2002.

Lol every dude gets cheated on during college. It is literally the rite of passage.

 

[Learning Curve]

This is a story about a guy I know and a woman playing two different men.

My friend John is a a mid 40's doctor. He has plenty of money, good shape, nice place, nice cars, not a push over, been with less than 7 women, mostly long term relationships, so there is a lot he doesn't know.

John has a girlfriend as well as a side chic he had a kid with. The side chic is mid 30's and married to a guy in his mid 50's. We will call this guy Beta Bob the provider.

Beta Bob willingly accepted my buddy Johns bastard child and has raised my friends kid as his own. My friend wants nothing to do with the kid, although he provides cash.

You would have thought side chic would have stopped fuhking my friend John after the kid was born. Guess what? A few years later She is bored with Beta Bob, he doesn't generate tingles, never has and she is now fuhking John again.

I think all 3 have issues. I have fault with all of them.

This alpha and beta male analogy is a pure bs developed to divide male personalities that's all.

There is no such thing as Alpha or Beta. Humans like to have signs of what they are to feel better about themselves.

Through times, people got used to this analogies and they follow rules to stay "Alpha" or "Beta" which i find ridiculous nowadays.

Many people may disagree with me on this, but i don't care on being Alpha or Beta. I care about being a Man, and the best version of my self in all aspects of life. I don't wake up and if I'm not "Alpha" i feel sad.

This is pure manipulation developed as with religions' same concept.