No I haven't, and what is the reasoning behind it? See, here is what fails people. There is a science behind all of this stuff. How it works in the body, and what it does. What happens to protein when you take in more than you need? NOT bigger muscles. You can only utilize so much. Its like creatine.Warboss Alex said:
Peter Lemon emphasises that although increasing protein intakes above the RDA (in tandem with resistance exercise) may enhance muscle gain, this increase is not a continuing linear relationship - the effect appears to plateau out at relatively modest increases.
And yes, you know he is the leading researcher on ATHLETES protein needs.
Oh, and was the study done on experienced strength athletes? Glad you asked...
They compared a group of experienced strength-trained athletes with a group of sedentary controls. Both groups were tested at three protein intake levels - low, moderate and high (0.86, 1.4 and 2.4 g/kg body weight respectively). The protein intake required to maintain body protein levels was 1.4g/kg for strength athletes and 0.69 for sedentary subjects. An increase in protein intake from low to moderate increased the rate of protein synthesis in strength athletes, but increasing to the high level did not have any further effect.
Hey, people can argue all they want. All I am saying is that arguing with the leading expert in protein and athletes is a waste. And he'll say the same thing. So what if you take in 2g and you weigh X amount. Congrats.
They numbers YOU throw around, and others are all based on what you read from magazines or have heard elsewhere. In know way are they related to ANY sort of study, nor truth. Its a guess, and you are assuming that just because you took extra protein in, that it is the mere fact of protein, and not calories at the level of going from 1g that some do per pound up to 2-2.5.
Lets say you take in 1g and you are 200lbs. 800cal come from protein.
Now say you decide to go to 2.5g. That's 2,000cal from protein.
So now what do you have? You have an extra 1,200cal a day. That is quite a bit, and in fact, you should be gaining weight if you added that many calories per day extra. And like I said, there is no way for you to prove its not an increase in calories, over the function of protein in the body.
The thing is, I dont get where people get their information from. It gets me every time. They hear a number and go for it. Trust me, that's all it is.
What do I base mine off of? I base mine off of some real hard studies. The other one at KSU measured all the food the subjects ate, and any waste was weighed, and then when they worked out they collected their sweat. They rang out their clothes in a small pool, and sampled all the nitrogen present. They were on set diets, their protein was measured, the blew food up (to test for calories) They took urine and stool samples along with blood.
They did it all. Its as complex as you can get. And if you want to argue that one study i'm talking about, you can, but its SOLID proof and based off what the muscles are actually using, and nitrogen levels, etc.
Hey, i'm not telling anyone they cant eat their 2g. If that is your thing, you do it. All i'm getting at, is that people always talk about this stuff, and base it off of NOTHING.
Nothing upsets me more when people come up with numbers they pull out of the air, or from a magazine, or from a friend of a trainer at a gym, or because Ronnie Coleman does it.
Its like the kid at the gym that was told to take 10g of creatine in everyday for 30 days. If he only knew it was a waste.
