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Protein Powder
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I'm sorry, but there is some completely terrible advice in this thread.
The last one was the last straw.
Low intensity cardio doesn't lead to muscle loss, but high intensity does?
NEITHER makes you lose muscle if you eat properly and don't do it on an empty stomach.
If you're really fat, you do hiit, but if you're in good shape, you do low intensity? With what logic?
What's the problem with the getting started post?
5-6 meals isn't difficult. A protein shake with a piece of fruit could constitute a meal in the worst case scenario.
Look up a program by Joe Defranco - Westside for Skinny Bastards. It's a good starter program for building muscle. The other guy's isn't bad either but not enough compound lifts for my liking.
Also look up Rippetoe's 5x5 program.
The last one was the last straw.
Low intensity cardio doesn't lead to muscle loss, but high intensity does?
NEITHER makes you lose muscle if you eat properly and don't do it on an empty stomach.
If you're really fat, you do hiit, but if you're in good shape, you do low intensity? With what logic?
What's the problem with the getting started post?
5-6 meals isn't difficult. A protein shake with a piece of fruit could constitute a meal in the worst case scenario.
Look up a program by Joe Defranco - Westside for Skinny Bastards. It's a good starter program for building muscle. The other guy's isn't bad either but not enough compound lifts for my liking.
Also look up Rippetoe's 5x5 program.
You guys are giving me alot of different advice and im getting confused fast, Im sticking with the " where to start" post, ill just learn how to deadlift properly, I want to loose fat, HIIT or low intensity cardio for 2-3 miles?
I-tallionStallion
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MrS - Running doesn't lead to muscle loss? I'm pretty sure it slows down your training quite a bit for building muscle.
An excellent guide provided by Warboss
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=114618
HandyAndy...I had a 2000 calorie diet with ten minutes of cardio 3-4 times a week at 10 minutes. I lost about fifty pounds in five months, I did medium to low intensity cardio. BUT what i focused on were my big three. Incline bench, Squat, Deadlift. I did a three day split and followed routines given to me by Warboss and Effort. With a similar diet to what was said earlier in this post
Deadlifts are awesome - but they aren't going to be easy. they are going to be hell, and you will love it haha. Good luck to you
An excellent guide provided by Warboss
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=114618
HandyAndy...I had a 2000 calorie diet with ten minutes of cardio 3-4 times a week at 10 minutes. I lost about fifty pounds in five months, I did medium to low intensity cardio. BUT what i focused on were my big three. Incline bench, Squat, Deadlift. I did a three day split and followed routines given to me by Warboss and Effort. With a similar diet to what was said earlier in this post
Deadlifts are awesome - but they aren't going to be easy. they are going to be hell, and you will love it haha. Good luck to you
Thats good for you Itallion Stallion, did you just run on the treadmill or what? Im following Efforts post now because I think its best for me, but what kind of running wont lead to muscle loss, or would that happen with any type of cardio?
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I'll try not to give you advice, instead I'll just tell you what worked for me personally.
When I was really leaning out, I was doing this:
1. The Where to Start routine, more or less.
2. Cardio 4-5x per week. This constituted a 30 minute interval run/walk. I'd start off by walking for two minutes, then run for one minute, walk for two, run for one, etc etc etc until i hit 30 minutes.
3. Occasionally I'd mix this up with some sprints: Pick a point 40 feet away, sprint there and back facing the same direction(harder), I did this 8 times in roughly 1 minute. I'd repeat this 3 times, by the end I was lying on the ground about to throw up almost every time.
4. My diet consisted of chicken, tuna, vegetables, 6 eggs per day, all the vitamins and other goodies as well each day, every few days I'd have a steak or fish or something. My diet was a little low in calories/fats which stopped me from putting on some serious muscle, though I was able to get my numbers up quite high regardless. I also drank green tea religiously. Oatmeal was also a mainstay in my diet then. Essentially it was a high protein, mod.high carb, sadly low fats.
That's from my personal experience only, no "general" information.
When I was really leaning out, I was doing this:
1. The Where to Start routine, more or less.
2. Cardio 4-5x per week. This constituted a 30 minute interval run/walk. I'd start off by walking for two minutes, then run for one minute, walk for two, run for one, etc etc etc until i hit 30 minutes.
3. Occasionally I'd mix this up with some sprints: Pick a point 40 feet away, sprint there and back facing the same direction(harder), I did this 8 times in roughly 1 minute. I'd repeat this 3 times, by the end I was lying on the ground about to throw up almost every time.
4. My diet consisted of chicken, tuna, vegetables, 6 eggs per day, all the vitamins and other goodies as well each day, every few days I'd have a steak or fish or something. My diet was a little low in calories/fats which stopped me from putting on some serious muscle, though I was able to get my numbers up quite high regardless. I also drank green tea religiously. Oatmeal was also a mainstay in my diet then. Essentially it was a high protein, mod.high carb, sadly low fats.
That's from my personal experience only, no "general" information.
Well any form of cardio in itself is catabolic to some level whether minor or not. The idea is to eat properly to minimise it, that's all. But yes low intensity does less likely lead to catabolism in general, if you do it on an empty stomach first thing then you tap into fat stores and burn mainly fat. The key is to not overdo it so that muscle becomes the fuel used. Fuelled cardio should be high intensity so that although you burn the fuel rather than fat in that session, at least the high intensity means your metabolism is boosted for hours afterwards turning your body into a fat burning furnace. So BBers on cuts usually either do AM Fasted Low Intensity or PM Fuelled High Intensity. Usually it's the former I think because it can be monitored and controlled a little better. Or even both infact.MrS said:I'm sorry, but there is some completely terrible advice in this thread.
The last one was the last straw.
Low intensity cardio doesn't lead to muscle loss, but high intensity does?
NEITHER makes you lose muscle if you eat properly and don't do it on an empty stomach.
If you're really fat, you do hiit, but if you're in good shape, you do low intensity? With what logic?
No Muscle Milk a huge ripoff compared to On Whey. It's loaded with sugar too.Monster said:Is Muscle Milk worth it? Or should I save the money and go with the generic brands?
Uh? Original Muscle Milk has 6g of sugar per serving (1 scoop) and Muscle Milk Light has 2g per serving...Nip/Tuck said:No Muscle Milk a huge ripoff compared to On Whey. It's loaded with sugar too.
Wow really? Too bad they don't sell the "original" anymore. On Whey has less calories per serving, less fat but more protein... AND IT COSTS LESS. Do the math? Which one do you think is better?HandyAndy said:Uh? Original Muscle Milk has 6g of sugar per serving (1 scoop) and Muscle Milk Light has 2g per serving...
http://slumz.boxden.com/showthread.php?t=1000880
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=738981
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HandyAndy is correct, there's nothing wrong with 12g of fat per shake. In fact, that's on the low side.
The only thing you really need to remember and be conscious of while consuming dietary fats is balance. Balance saturated(animal), monounsaturated(olive oil, etc) and polyunsaturated(fish oil, flax oil, etc).
Aside from that, there is no problem with fat. If you claim that 'fat is bad for you', support it with evidence or else I might delete your post(politely) as disinformation.
The only thing you really need to remember and be conscious of while consuming dietary fats is balance. Balance saturated(animal), monounsaturated(olive oil, etc) and polyunsaturated(fish oil, flax oil, etc).
Aside from that, there is no problem with fat. If you claim that 'fat is bad for you', support it with evidence or else I might delete your post(politely) as disinformation.
Interceptor
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Is this a joke? You're not being serious, are you?xilley said:is it true protein shake makes your **** not able to erect?