Protected vs. Unprotected Sex

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With the HIV/AIDS epidemic at an unbelievable all-time high, there is no doubt that protecting one's self during intercourse is the right way to go-that is, using a condom. I have a question though, and it may be quite funny, but it is actually serious and important as well. To those of you who have had a lot of one-night stands in the past either with women you've met on first dates from places such as your gyms or at clubs, do you guys often take condoms along with you and put them in your pockets to be ready just in case you end up going back to the womens' houses? And if so, have any of the women teased you guys by saying for instance, "Wow, so you came with a condom in your pocket, huh? Did you know you were going to sleep with me tonight?"

When all is said and done though, HIV/AIDS is no joke.
 

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I think by the time you're about to pull the condom out and use it, it is essentially a nonissue what she says.
 

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The type of women who will sleep with you will also have condoms by their bed. If they tease you, turn it around by asking them if their house is free of condoms (of course it isn't).

Although I have not tried them, there was a condom thread a while back, and "one" brand condoms got good reviews:
http://www.condomsexpress.com/express/pages/one.html

The packaging does not look much like a condom.
 

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Condoms are a great idea, but (IMO) much more so to reduce the chance of pregnancy or common STDs like herps.

The last time I checked official statistics (2 weeks ago), the estimated percentage of HIV/AIDs cases derived from heterosexual sex is approximately 15%. With approximately 1 million current HIV/AIDS cases in the US, that would then be approximately 150,000 HIV/AIDS cases in the US caught from heterosexual sex (source: CDC). That's not that many considering there are 300 million people living in the US. Your odds are better to die in an automobile accident.
 

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azanon said:
Condoms are a great idea, but (IMO) much more so to reduce the chance of pregnancy or common STDs like herps.

The last time I checked official statistics (2 weeks ago), the estimated percentage of HIV/AIDs cases derived from heterosexual sex is approximately 15%. With approximately 1 million current HIV/AIDS cases in the US, that would then be approximately 150,000 HIV/AIDS cases in the US caught from heterosexual sex (source: CDC). That's not that many considering there are 300 million people living in the US. Your odds are better to die in an automobile accident.
Yea Frank, I think you mentioned that you were from Africa. AIDS is a real problem over there, but it isn't and never has been for heterosexual persons in the western world.
 

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If a woman teases you for having a condom, what she is really saying is

"Hmmmmm......I must have competition. Let me tell a half joke to indirectly express my disapproval".
 

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unless you are in a monogomous relationship, you're an idiot if you do not wear a condom.

moreover, if you are with a woman who actually doesnt want you to wear one you should run for the hills! she either already has an std and doesnt care if you give her one, or she wants to get knocked up.

i mean, come on guys, ITS JUST SEX!

yes, sex is great, but its just an orgasm. it is NOT worth risking an std, getting her pregant or yes, even HIV.

your d*ck will give you a lifetime of pleasure if you take care of it :) protect it like it was your nephew. you wouldn't stick your nephews face in some strange woman's crotch, so don't stick your d*ck there without protection.
 

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moreover, if you are with a woman who actually doesnt want you to wear one you should run for the hills! she either already has an std and doesnt care if you give her one, or she wants to get knocked up.

Or maybe we're all just a little paranoid about women based upon bad experiences in the past. No gf of mine has ever wanted me to wear one - or at least put up much of a fight about it. A dozen or so LTRs later (one was a 7-year mariage), I still have never knocked a chick up, nor have I gotten any serious STDs, or at least any that a condom would have prevented. Unless a girl is a drunk party ho, or a swinger chick off a site like AFF, then I don't buy the necessity of condoms, even in short-term monogamous relationships. I see threads here with guys who are just horrified that they had sex without a condom, and they are certain that their d!ck is about to rot off. People are a little too uptight over STDs. I think condoms are probably responsible for the proliferation of skin viruses like herpes, HPV, and molluscum, because they give people a false sense of security that lets them do slvtty women whom they would not otherwise fvck.

If you really care about staying STD-free, the number one protection you have is your good judgement in sleeping only with women who care enough about you to not give you an std or unwanted kid. Trust and respect work better than any condom.
 

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The stats on lifetime STDs like herpes are pretty solid; like it or not. If one routinely has unprotected sex with many different women, there definitely is a real, viable chance that your luck will run out. Someone remind me, is it like 1 in 5 (or even more) who have herpes? Yes, they have to be "breaking out" at the time, but are you going to notice?

Maybe another reminder from penkitten is warranted.

And this very point is the reason I don't get too jealous by those with 50+ women. They either 1. had protected sex (and, to me, sex with condoms sucks) 2. have herpes (or worse) or 3. are very lucky. Ive never been a real lucky person so #3 isn't an option for me.
 

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Condoms don't protect you from genital herpes, ps there doesn't have to be a breakout either for it to be contageous.

That being said, I had a lot of unprotected sex when I was younger and I'm lucky to be STD free. However there are a lot of the milder STD's that are treatable that go around, however the serious ones are far and few between.
 

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STR&UP, AIDS isn't a problem only in Africa. Realize that the Western media love to blow Africa's problems out of proportion. I'm not surprised you mentioned AIDS in Africa in reference to the fact that I'm from that continent. While I do agree that it is a problem there as it is in many Western countries as well, I never came across people dying of AIDS left and right in my country before I came to the U.S. And even when I go to visit, I don't see that either, nor do I see miserable people sitting on street corners starving with their mouths wide open and flies on their eyes and lips, their hair looking as if it hasn't been washed for about six months just like they try to make you guys believe on TV. Africa is beautiful. It's unfortunate the Western media doesn't want people to see the other side of it.


Back to the original topic, I personally find it kinda hard to buy condoms at pharmacies and convenience stores. I often feel embarrassed when female cashiers have to ring up a pack of condoms. I haven't bought condoms in a long while and when I used to, I often would go to the pharmacy wearing a very big baseball hat that I would pull all the way down to my forehead to cover my face, and I would have dark sunglasses on as well. You can't help but imagine the cashiers thinking you're a mischievous fellow when you buy those things.
 

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AIDS is a problem in the western world and an big issue where I live, in the San Francisco bay area. It's not unusual to hear about some AIDS benefit on the radio. But and it's a huge big fat butt, most of the people that have AIDS got it by having gay sex or from sharing needles while doing drugs. It is very rare to hear about a straight man who got AIDS or HIV from having sex with a woman.

As for the topic, I have never had sex without a condom. While I would really like to see what it feels like, I will wait until I'm in LTR with a girl who I know is on protection. Getting an STD is no where near as scary to me as getting a girl pregnant. I am hoping that the male pill will come out soon. If it does and I'm on it I might as well as not use a condom if the girl I'm with seems clean enough.

edit: LOL I changed LDR into LTR. :D
 
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Maxtro said:
As for the topic, I have never had sex without a condom.
I would suggest to never do it, it will ruin sex with a condom for you. I grew up at the cusp of the aids scare before it was really huge and my first g/f was against condoms for religious reasons so I got use to having sex without them, its also the reason why I'm so lax about using them.

That being said I know the big scare is STD's but the more realistic reason for wearing domes is because of pregnancy. Clamydia & Gonerea are fairly easily treatable for a few dollars, however a kid will cost you a god chunk of your paycheck for the rest of your life.

As for buying condoms in stores, don't be shy, there are literally hundreds of guys going in buying it a day, its part of her job, she sees it all the time.
 

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Or maybe we're all just a little paranoid about women based upon bad experiences in the past. No gf of mine has ever wanted me to wear one - or at least put up much of a fight about it. A dozen or so LTRs later (one was a 7-year mariage), I still have never knocked a chick up, nor have I gotten any serious STDs, or at least any that a condom would have prevented. Unless a girl is a drunk party ho, or a swinger chick off a site like AFF, then I don't buy the necessity of condoms, even in short-term monogamous relationships.
I'm in the same boat.

People were fukking for thousands of years before the condom came along, and the human race managed to survive and thrive.

The worst that has happened to me is one of my first ho-bag g/f's gave me crabs. Said she got them from a toilet seat. Yeeaaaa....righhhht....

I see threads here with guys who are just horrified that they had sex without a condom, and they are certain that their d!ck is about to rot off.
My business partner has a bit of an anxiety issue, but I never knew how bad it was till he got it in his head that he had AIDS. He thought he had these spots on his tongue, and he would look in the mirror at it every ten minutes until the tests came back negative weeks later. He was an absolute fukking BASKETCASE for a month. And those of us who knew where just like WTF?????

I don't remember WHY it was he thought he had it in the first place (other than the spots on his tongue) but he thought he contracted it because he didn't use a condom with a couple of chicks.

I know it's been mentioned before, but if you aren't out ass fukking gay transvestite hookers with heroine addictions, you can greatly reduce your chances of catching something.

It was probably not the smartest thing to do, but when I was banging the chick who was fresh out of rehab for a coke habit I just stuck it in and blew my load on her back when it was time. She never even mentioned it. And I'm used to most chicks at least bringing it up.

When I fukked the 20 year old a couple of times last year I think it actually turned her on that I didn't want to use a condom. She said something about it being hot that it was in the heat of the moment or something. And I agree....it's a buzzkill to have to stop what you're doing and slap on this piece of rubber that you KNOW is going to make it feel like you're fukking a soggy garbage bag.

There is nothing like the sensation of sliding skin on skin into a hot, juicy pu$$y.
 

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ya'll are really ignorant..all it takes is one chick, one time, who has it to catch HIV...she could seem innocent and as clean as a bottle of Pine spray...on top of that, she could have it and not even know it...it could take 6 mos AFTER unprotected sex for it to actually show up on a blood test...ask yourself..is it REALLY worth it?? once your HIV progresses to AIDS and your immune system is destroyed, you only live another 10-15 years...is any raw puzzy worth that??
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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I've always been a fan of the Jim Norton (comedian) line:

GIRL: "And what are you doing with that?!" (referring to condom)
YOU: "Hey, this might just save your life tonight."
 

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nah, but im really tired of ppl acting like it can't happen to them..think about car accidents..you can be driving the speed limit at night, seat belt on, car equipped with air bags and everything, then BAM outta nowhere hit by a drunken driver who ran a stop sign/red light and youre life...gone..same with an STD, she may SAY she's clean, but who knows how many nights shes woken up not remembering a DAMN thing (like the train 3 guys ran on her last nite while she was passed out)..shi t ive known chikcs who KNOW they have STDS and are giving them out to AFC dudes because they're simply bitter and have nothing to lose...
 

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Thatfeel21 said:
ya'll are really ignorant..all it takes is one chick, one time, who has it to catch HIV...she could seem innocent and as clean as a bottle of Pine spray...on top of that, she could have it and not even know it...it could take 6 mos AFTER unprotected sex for it to actually show up on a blood test...ask yourself..is it REALLY worth it?? once your HIV progresses to AIDS and your immune system is destroyed, you only live another 10-15 years...is any raw puzzy worth that??
Ah, I see the yungins are still buying into that BS propaganda....

I've been fukking for the better part of 20 years and haven't met ONE person with AIDS.

NOT ONE.

You probably have a better chance of someone breaking in your bedroom and shooting you in the back of the head while your banging a chick than to contract AIDS from heterosexual sex.
 

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Thatfeel21 said:
nah, but im really tired of ppl acting like it can't happen to them..think about car accidents..you can be driving the speed limit at night, seat belt on, car equipped with air bags and everything, then BAM outta nowhere hit by a drunken driver who ran a stop sign/red light and youre life...gone..same with an STD, she may SAY she's clean, but who knows how many nights shes woken up not remembering a DAMN thing (like the train 3 guys ran on her last nite while she was passed out)..shi t ive known chikcs who KNOW they have STDS and are giving them out to AFC dudes because they're simply bitter and have nothing to lose...
Or you could be having nothing but unprotected sex all your life and bam you get hit by a car and died. Then you never knew it was like to have raw sex.

Honestly soooo many things in this world are bad for you and can kill you. Yes it is wise to take the necessary precautions but... LOL I'm too tired to think of a phrase to complete that statement :yawn:
 

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I know exactly ONE person with HIV. She got it from her ex-husband, who was IVDA.

I never met another one outside of work, which doesn't count.


That's all I got.

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