Prostitution is not legal because:

[Da Realist]

I think you got this back to front a bit.

The problem with prostitution is even if its regulated its predominantly a cash business. Which means it becomes almost impossible to tax. The reluctance to regulate is not because its a financial win for the government (its not) but because from a financial point of view its very difficult to tax.

I agree with acw. Its a question of morality more then anything else. I just believe that prohibition does not always work (look at drugs and alcohol) and that regulating it actually reduces the "problem"

Yeah, even writing it sounds weird, but I still stand by it. You're right about it being hard to regulate and acw is right about the moral issue. But I think there is no pressure to legalize it from a local level because law enforcement and jails can be big business. The less crimes you have the less penalities there are; with that are less jails being built, fewer lawyers, fewer fines, etc. People get paid good money to build facilities that house crimanals as well as to watch them. More crimes mean more lawyers have a job. More people who have to pay fines means more income for the local government. If you think I'm making it up, look at little towns that set up speed traps all the time. It isn't that they believe people should drive the speed limit: they get money from all the tickets they write. In Memphis, there are so many security guards, alarms, and cameras its ridiculous. Then again, people are concerned about crime so they are ready to buy it if they can feel safe. With drugs, its almost the same. This country catches so many low level people and yet uses a lot of effort to do so. These guys go to prison, have to pay for lawyers to get them off, and have all of their property seized. In that time they paid at least sales tax to the goverment as well as buying from a business. Then there are tax dollars that go toward funding the departments that go after these people really with little intention of stopping the problem at the head. I'm all for a society having morals, but I've learned that with any religion or belief system, watch the money because it will always tell the true story.

 

[Nutz]

Women will generally NOT support prostitution. Here's why:

Pvssy is a rare resource like gold or diamonds. The rarer the resource the higher its value. This is simple supply and demand. When supply skyrockets for the low low price of a trip to a brothel suddenly women in relationships can no longer MANIPULATE MEN by withholding sex. And that's why women will generally never support prostitution, despite the fact that they logically already support it when they support abortion. After all being pro-choice means "my body, my choice". Follow the logic

 

[Duffdog]

If you want to know what society would be like if prostitution were legal, simply take a trip to Nevada and live there for a while. You will find that the people there don't even notice if there is a prostitute around them-- it might as well be a cup of coffee. The men and women are so incredibly desensitized to sex its ridiculous. The desperation of the average guy has completely evaporated, and the girls have an entirely different take on what is required of a female. Even in schools, the girls know that the ONLY thing that matters in life for a girl is BEING HOT. That is their job. The only thing that matters for guys is BEING RICH. It is a very interesting dynamic when you think about it. It is almost as if the superficiality of the rest of the world is amplified when you live there. I think that because prostitution is legal, it just raised the bar on what the non-prostitute females have to do in order to score a good guy.

When I was in NV quite a bit, I felt like I was in another world. Just walking through the mall was (and still is) crazy-- almost every girl is a 7+! I would suddenly be reminded of how many fat chics were in Northern California and how all of them thought that they deserved a man simply because they possessed a vag1na. It is not like that in a city where prostitution is legal-- for any normal average guy can get laid for 50 bucks, so why even talk to a fat chic?

 

[SXS]

Free? Are you on crack? It's anything but "free". Yeah, it might be "free" in that you can make as much money as you want, in any way that you wish, but so what? It's repression if anything, because you're talking about a system that is based upon fierce, ruthless competition. And we're all pretty smart mature men around here(well some of us) to know that competition churns out a lot of losers. In a Capitalist system, you either win or you lose, plain and simple. No matter how hard people will try to be successful in it, some of those people will end up losers regardless. It's inevitable. That's the only reason I'm not a proponent of it. Is that to say then I'm a proponent of Socialism or Comunism? No. What I'm a proponent of, is a system where we work and provide for ourselves, much like the way early man did, the way nature intended it to be for us.
Look at the state of the current economy. A consequence of a Capitalist society. Need I say more. It doesn't have to be this way.

And YOU are the one accusing others of being on crack ? Ha, ha. Go to the jungle, then, my friend.

 

[SXS]

In my country, there are prostitutes everywhere. I have prostitute friends. I dont know if its illegal, but nobody cares.

 

[Nutz]

I think that because prostitution is legal, it just raised the bar on what the non-prostitute females have to do in order to score a good guy.

When I was in NV quite a bit, I felt like I was in another world. Just walking through the mall was (and still is) crazy-- almost every girl is a 7+! I would suddenly be reminded of how many fat chics were in Northern California and how all of them thought that they deserved a man simply because they possessed a vag1na. It is not like that in a city where prostitution is legal-- for any normal average guy can get laid for 50 bucks, so why even talk to a fat chic?

Thank you. You just proved exactly what I was talking about above. Women would be scared ****less of the power they'd lose if prostitution was legalized.

 

[edger]

And YOU are the one accusing others of being on crack ? Ha, ha. Go to the jungle, then, my friend.

If you read in between the lines, you'd have been able to figure out that it wasn't meant literally. I said it would be better if we lived "much" like the way early man did, not EXACTLY like the way they did. In other words, I'm not saying lets go back to living in huts or caves without technology, but lets live the way we do now, but where we work and provide for ourselves without relying on a paycheck from somebody. It's complicated to explain. But I also am a realist and do realize such a way of life taking root, is a far fetched possibility. Lots of people aren't willing to change the persent.

 

[edger]

So everyone out there who lives in a house with heat, hot water, electricity is a loser?

No, I'm trying to say the "losers" are those who are struggling financially; those who try/tried to do well in the system, but lost/are losing the battle. Like I said, there's always going to be those who will lose the battle, not everybody can obviously win. When two teams are competing against each other, there can only be one winner, correct? It's an impossibility for both teams to win. That's the point I'm trying to make regarding Capitalism.

 

[SXS]

If you read in between the lines, you'd have been able to figure out that it wasn't meant literally. I said it would be better if we lived "much" like the way early man did, not EXACTLY like the way they did. In other words, I'm not saying lets go back to living in huts or caves without technology, but lets live the way we do now, but where we work and provide for ourselves without relying on a paycheck from somebody. It's complicated to explain. But I also am a realist and do realize such a way of life taking root, is a far fetched possibility. Lots of people aren't willing to change the persent.

Ok!

No, I'm trying to say the "losers" are those who are struggling financially; those who try/tried to do well in the system, but lost/are losing the battle. Like I said, there's always going to be those who will lose the battle, not everybody can obviously win. When two teams are competing against each other, there can only be one winner, correct? It's an impossibility for both teams to win. That's the point I'm trying to make regarding Capitalism.

I dont see a reason why there has to be a loser. I dont care if some guy has a zillion dollars, I am happy with how much money I have and I think anyone can get a pretty decent life nowadays, unless there is something blocking the way, and I dont even live in the greatest economy in the world.
Are you american by any chance ?

 

[DonGorgon]

I can't disagree with the tampering in Government. That is just another example of how we do NOT have a free market. Our Government can be bought thru lobbyists to then pass new laws.

The best way around that is to severely limit the amount of $$ that any entity can donate to a political cause or campaign. When Corporations can donate massive amounts of money, their voice tends to be the one heard most by the politicians.

Not possible to stop since money is more powerful than god and those who have jit will find ways to get it to those who make decisions

 

[DonGorgon]

Women will generally NOT support prostitution. Here's why:

Pvssy is a rare resource like gold or diamonds. The rarer the resource the higher its value. This is simple supply and demand. When supply skyrockets for the low low price of a trip to a brothel suddenly women in relationships can no longer MANIPULATE MEN by withholding sex. And that's why women will generally never support prostitution, despite the fact that they logically already support it when they support abortion. After all being pro-choice means "my body, my choice". Follow the logic

So true and the fact that women have a monopoly on PU$$Y means that they have extreme power that spills over into economic issues since men are willing to work extra hard to make enough money to spend during courting relationships and marriage or to just get layed,,

 

[DonGorgon]

Example: Canada. I dare you to tell me that regulation leads to MORE concentrations of wealth here. Its the opposite.

And stop posting these garbage youtube videos. Not every idiot needs to be heard.

true

 

[edger]

SXS, yes, I was born and raised in the U.S. My bloodline though consists of Italian, Russian, and Turkish. Half Italian, quarter Russian, quarter Turkish.

 

[Duffdog]

Ok!



I dont see a reason why there has to be a loser. I dont care if some guy has a zillion dollars, I am happy with how much money I have and I think anyone can get a pretty decent life nowadays, unless there is something blocking the way, and I dont even live in the greatest economy in the world.
Are you american by any chance ?

The essence of being a human being is to control and destroy MORE natural resources than your fellow man. The man who has control of the most resources has access to the best women, the best food, the best everything because he is superior. Men are not equal, you have the choice of stomping or being stomped on. There is no middle ground.

Suffice it to say, the attractive women want the stompers, not the stompees.

 

[Jitterbug]

Well prostitution is legal where I live (Australia) and it doesn't make the women (non-prostie) any easier to deal with, compared to America. They have the same PMS - Princess Mentality Syndrome. Nor do people here have the attitude of the Nevada folks either. Having said that, it means less crime on the street and more tax for the gov so everyone is kinda happy.

 

[piranha45]

heh, i guess that blows the prostitution-revolution theories away...

 

[Kerpal]

I disagree with both that men value sex more than women and the fact that the reason average women fare a lot better than average men has anything to do with sex.

Taking random one night stands from bars/clubs out of the equations, average women get way more dates and relationships than average men. High value men (looks/intelligence/money/etc) are more willing to have a relationship with average women than the opposite. Average women will turn down advances a lot more than average men. Average women can still very much "choose" a man, even a high quality man, and average men for the most part have to take what they can get or face a lot of rejection.

In my option, even taking sex out of the equation, there is a big disparity.

Why do you disagree with what I said? What you posted immediately afterward supports my theory.

Men want sex much more than women do. How come there are no sites where girls go to ask how to get laid? Why do dating sites have a ratio of like 5 men for every woman? Even fat girls can go to bars and have dozens of guys hitting on them, how come that doesn't happen to guys? Why isn't there a huge black market for male sex slaves but there is for female?

 

[Captain Harlock]

Why do you disagree with what I said? What you posted immediately afterward supports my theory.

Men want sex much more than women do. How come there are no sites where girls go to ask how to get laid? Why do dating sites have a ratio of like 5 men for every woman? Even fat girls can go to bars and have dozens of guys hitting on them, how come that doesn't happen to guys? Why isn't there a huge black market for male sex slaves but there is for female?

there's the social conditioning thing that makes them repressed prudes.

 

[randalll]

we should have more threads like this

 

[DonGorgon]

Why do you disagree with what I said? What you posted immediately afterward supports my theory.

Men want sex much more than women do. How come there are no sites where girls go to ask how to get laid? Why do dating sites have a ratio of like 5 men for every woman? Even fat girls can go to bars and have dozens of guys hitting on them, how come that doesn't happen to guys? Why isn't there a huge black market for male sex slaves but there is for female?

exactly.. an how come ladies get in free to many clubs and free drinks while men pay?