Prostitution is not legal because:

[DonGorgon]

Prostitution is not legal cause women keep the capitalist machine operating as we know it, and their power comes from the sexual frustration and desperation of men, which translates directly into purchases of goods and services made only to aid in the struggle to gain access to womens' vaginas..

If the legalize prostitution all those revenue streams will be closed down and the negative effect of the economy will be catastrophic. America is based on extreme capitalism, so extreme that it manipulates human social constructs to maximize capital efficiency..

All of this also only works cause there are more men available to the average woman than there are women available to the average man, hence mens' sexual disadvantage and desperation...

 

[HardTimes]

Prostitution is not legal cause women keep the capitalist machine operating as we know it, and their power comes from the sexual frustration and desperation of men, which translates directly into purchases of goods and services made only to aid in the struggle to gain access to womens' vaginas..

Uh, no, you're way off base.

Prostitution is not legal because of right wingers having too much power in this country trying to be the moral police. Thankfully this segment of the population is rapidly shrinking and I predict we'll have widespread legalized prostitution within the next 20 years or so.

If the legalize prostitution all those revenue streams will be closed down and the negative effect of the economy will be catastrophic. America is based on extreme capitalism, so extreme that it manipulates human social constructs to maximize capital efficiency..

Again, I think you're way off base and you overestimate the impact on legalized prostitution. I would suspect that the same amount of people would be paying for sex as they do right now. Maybe a slight increase, but not much. Legalizing victimless crimes like drugs and prostitution does not all of a sudden change the behavior of an entire society. If people want to pay for sex, they are going to do it whether its legal or not.

All of this also only works cause there are more men available to the average woman than there are women available to the average man, hence mens' sexual disadvantage and desperation...

This is the only thing I will agree with you with. Average women get way more men than average men they women. However, that has nothing to do with prostitution being illegal. It has everything to so with the state of our culture idolizing women for no reason other than them being women.

 

[Kerpal]

It's not just "because they're women", it's because men value sex much more than women do.

 

[Maxtro]

First off all, why did you have to post this in three different threads?

As for your actual "argument" what you are really saying is that our capitalist machine is driven by men who purchase goods and services for women they want to have sex with?

Then if prostitution is legalized those men would stop buying gifts for women and the economy would collapse?

I seriously hope I misunderstood your argument because from what I see, it looks like a ton of BS.

 

[HardTimes]

It's not just "because they're women", it's because men value sex much more than women do.

I disagree with both that men value sex more than women and the fact that the reason average women fare a lot better than average men has anything to do with sex.

Taking random one night stands from bars/clubs out of the equations, average women get way more dates and relationships than average men. High value men (looks/intelligence/money/etc) are more willing to have a relationship with average women than the opposite. Average women will turn down advances a lot more than average men. Average women can still very much "choose" a man, even a high quality man, and average men for the most part have to take what they can get or face a lot of rejection.

In my option, even taking sex out of the equation, there is a big disparity.

 

[PeeGee]

The only remotely sensible argument I've heard against prostitution (women against prostitution) other than the genuine issues of health and safety is that if it were free, men would be less willing to 'pay' for a wife, where sex is optional, yet the man is tied down to monogamy.

If it were suddenly made legal there would be more male shaming for those who engaged in such (legal) behaviour. Actually since it's legal in certain States, is this the case? The 'guy is so bad with women he has to pay them to have sex' shaming?

There are legitimate reasons why prostitution should be legalized and regulated, but there are also many stupid reasons.

 

[DonGorgon]

The fact is that modern capitalism is more powerful than religion! You cannot even see that you are bound by capitalism you think natural social concepts still have power.. you are wrong.. and the fact that capitalism oppression is invisible to you is what makes it so dangerously powerful and destructive,

1. most of what men do is driving by their desire for PU$$Y
2. its hard fro the average man to secure a stable frequent PU$$Y supply
3. men are willing to work hard to pay for gifts during courting and relationships
4. men are willing to do what women say for fear of loosing access to the PU$$Y
5. women decide what they buy and what men buy for them
6. women have more access to more men so they dont need one man as much as he usually needs them.
7. laws and courts benefit women, more women are in college , women are getting jobs over men to fill double quotes and provide PU$$Y access to desperate managers etc.

Once capitalism gets involved in the dynamic its over.. there is too much money to be made off of keeping men groveling at womens feet fro PU$$Y.. So prostitution will never be legal as long as capitalism reigns supreme system of choice..

 

[DonGorgon]

Our capitalism is not very extreme at all. If anything, we need less socialism and more capitalism.

Having said that, prostitution isn't legal because people were able to push their morals onto enough of the populace to make it illegal.

capitalism is more powerful than god! and 1000000000000 times more destructive. whyy? because its destructive nature is invisible to many humans its the perfect from of enslavement..

 

[Maxtro]

LOL I was correct on what your agrugment was. Even though I think it is compeltely BS and you are grosly oversimplifying I'll play along.

Consider this. Instead of a man spending his money on gifts for the woman, he gives her the money directly. What do you think she does with the money?

She buys those "gifts" for herself. So in essence the middleman (men) are no longer buying items for women, but it doesn't mean those items would stopped being purchased.

The economy would see no change at all. There would be less male customers and more female customers but the amount of spenditure would be the same. Hell it might even go up because the amount of money given to have sex with her is probably higher than the value of gifts he would have given her.

I still think you are completely off-track by saying the economy is being supported by men who are buying things for women they want to do.

I'm single and I haven't bought shit for girls. Everything I bought was for myself.

 

[Jokerlsk]

Right wingers rule. Prostitution is messed up, and immoral, and the conservatives should have every right to oppose it.

 

[I.A.F.Y.B.]

Prostitution is legal in one aspect that I know of... Its a little place called the Bunny Ranch. I think there is even a couple other places where prostitution is legal...

Another reason is the government cant tax pimpin.

 

[edger]

Capitalism sets you free.

Free? Are you on crack? It's anything but "free". Yeah, it might be "free" in that you can make as much money as you want, in any way that you wish, but so what? It's repression if anything, because you're talking about a system that is based upon fierce, ruthless competition. And we're all pretty smart mature men around here(well some of us) to know that competition churns out a lot of losers. In a Capitalist system, you either win or you lose, plain and simple. No matter how hard people will try to be successful in it, some of those people will end up losers regardless. It's inevitable. That's the only reason I'm not a proponent of it. Is that to say then I'm a proponent of Socialism or Comunism? No. What I'm a proponent of, is a system where we work and provide for ourselves, much like the way early man did, the way nature intended it to be for us.

Look at the state of the current economy. A consequence of a Capitalist society. Need I say more. It doesn't have to be this way.

In the meantime, I will always try to do the best I can in this system, afterall, I have no other choice, but to live under it, so I might as well do the best that I can and make the best of it.

 

[edger]

And prostitution is not legal, because, you still have a lot of mindless Puritans here in America. It is no wonder they weren't tolerated and pretty much kicked out of England in the 17th century. Now unfortunately, we have them here. It is quite clear America hasn't evolved much since the Salem Witch Trials of 1692.

 

[Poonani Maker]

If prostitution were legal, I'd be hittin' that sh1t all the time (cheaper, and papers verifying STDs etc. dated and cealed).

 

[edger]

Right wingers rule. Prostitution is messed up, and immoral, and the conservatives should have every right to oppose it.

Explain to me in any educated, rational, logical way, Prostitution is "messed up" and "Immoral". Please, I'm waiting. If you can back yourself up with a valid, intelligent argument, I promise I will change my stance.

 

[piranha45]

And what is socialism? Don't think, the government can do it for you. Give your money and your life to the government; it knows best.

I'll keep my freedom, money, and guns; you can have your change.

 

[acw]

Interesing Hypothesis...!!!

...however, i think that the capitalist marketing machine works from the Top Down...through the food chain (not the other way around).

Here's what i think has happened...and is happening.

The Market place run by multinats, determine what the market will buy.

How?

3 ways.

1. Advertising,
2. Movie production (brainwashing, hypnotism)
3. Education

1 is self evident as well as number 2. Education is a slow drip brainwashing that evetually controls the minds of the subject population. Look at Germany and Japan....how did they manage to get the population to go along with the Horrendous crimes against humanity?

They were educated to do so.

Same thing with marketing and promotion. Brainwash the population to behave and act in a certain way and Wolaa~!

Prostitution is illegal in most states, i think, because of the moral standards we expect in our neighborhoods. Just imagine if you had kids, and you lived in the Red Light District in Amstermdam...what would that feel like?

Children need to be protected from this type of environment because it tends to attract a lower moral quality individuals (drug users,etc).

Prostitution has always thrived and the law will never be able to control it.

As far as their being more men than women, i suspect this is true...(unlike the BS propaganda they push in the media).

Now, when you consider that, how much more so rare, is the hot available women?


I like the way you think though...excellent idea!

Prostitution is not legal cause women keep the capitalist machine operating as we know it, and their power comes from the sexual frustration and desperation of men, which translates directly into purchases of goods and services made only to aid in the struggle to gain access to womens' vaginas..

If the legalize prostitution all those revenue streams will be closed down and the negative effect of the economy will be catastrophic. America is based on extreme capitalism, so extreme that it manipulates human social constructs to maximize capital efficiency..

All of this also only works cause there are more men available to the average woman than there are women available to the average man, hence mens' sexual disadvantage and desperation...

 

[DonGorgon]

LOL I was correct on what your agrugment was. Even though I think it is compeltely BS and you are grosly oversimplifying I'll play along.

Consider this. Instead of a man spending his money on gifts for the woman, he gives her the money directly. What do you think she does with the money?

She buys those "gifts" for herself. So in essence the middleman (men) are no longer buying items for women, but it doesn't mean those items would stopped being purchased.

The economy would see no change at all. There would be less male customers and more female customers but the amount of spenditure would be the same. Hell it might even go up because the amount of money given to have sex with her is probably higher than the value of gifts he would have given her.

I still think you are completely off-track by saying the economy is being supported by men who are buying things for women they want to do.

I'm single and I haven't bought shit for girls. Everything I bought was for myself.

im perfectly n track but its such a scary track that most men will not face it just like most men cant face the fact that there are more men than women..

 

[Hughman]

Right wingers rule. Prostitution is messed up, and immoral, and the conservatives should have every right to oppose it.

No one is going to deny you your right to oppose it, but please, explain why you hold such view.

And no rhetorical 'because God/the Bible says so' arguments - the Bible is not the infallible word of God. A bunch of bureaucrats in about 300 AD decided which writings were to be included in the tome. It is a guide, a very good guide, but not infallible.

I'd personally legalise prostitution. The UK and the USA are free nations - you don't have to use their services if you don't want to - I certainly don't plan to. It would bring tax revenues to the State and damage organised crime and people trafficking.

(I also hold the belief that relatively safe drugs such as marijuana, MDMA and LSD should be legalized - or tobacco should be criminalized. The system the West employs at the moment is highly hypocritical)

 

[Kal0051]

isn't dating just a legal form of prostitution? Instead of directly handing money over most men will spend insane amounts on gifts/dinners/dates just to get pu$$y.