Proof that looks is all that matters (mugshot)

[latino158]

Mugshot from a Police Department's Facebook page


https://www.facebook.com/stocktonpo...207520000.1403191283./626455670783694/?type=1


look at the comments

 

[Vice]

If your level of understanding of success with women is still at "looks matter", STOP F*CKING POSTING, AND GO OUT FOR 30 DAYS STRAIGHT.

I'm a good looking guy. Believe me when I say that looks only get you so far, and come with their own set of problems.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

As 'Leidy Santiago' says at the end of the thread, 'That tear adds a little bit of personality...two tears would mess things up'.

All the girls in the thread are either 4s-minus or have (their own) kids in the picture/link (Leidy, at a good 7/10 facial, doesn't, though she's probably got at least two).

This is proof of nothing except that trailer trash go after their own.

 

[Cerwin Vega]

Hahaha, most of the comments are from fat ladies or girls with boyfriends who were emasculated.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Of course looks matters most for attraction and trumps everything else. Good looking guys don't want to admit that's where their success comes from and not something they did (other than doing things that improve their appearance). And unattractive guys don't want to admit that is where their failure is and is largely out of their control.

 

[ArcBound]

Yes looks do matter, and you can get away with a lot if you are blessed with good looks, but they are one of many factors that matter.

For example you can be tall, you can go to the gym/do calisthenics and get buff. You can give it to her hard and good. You can have an extremely good sense of fashion. You can be charismatic. You can be famous in your social circle. All of these increase your sexual market value, not even counting your marriage market value..

Of course looks matter. We don't live in a Disney world where "inner beauty" is looked at first. So you can

a) complain
b) accept it and move on, not wasting time thinking about it
c) accept there are certain things you can't change, but certain things you can and change those things

You've chosen a)

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

So you can

a) complain
b) accept it and move on, not wasting time thinking about it
c) accept there are certain things you can't change, but certain things you can and change those things

You've chosen a)

This. Plus 1.

 

[El Payaso]

If that was an attractive woman who got arrested and all the men where drooling over her like the women in the comments, the collective jealous women and feminist media would moan about how all men are pigs and idiots.

Of course, looks give you a leg up when it comes to attracting women but it's not the be all end all.

 

[Stagger Lee]

c) accept there are certain things you can't change, but certain things you can and change those things

Therein lies debate. How much does changing certain things you can change make a difference? If it's not something visually aesthetic and apparent, I'd argue it makes little difference. While others argue appearance matters little to not at all, only attitude and tactics matter. And that is what PUA was/is sold on and mostly sham.

How about maybe you don't necessarily need to change anything but maybe try or get out more as that pick up is largely a numbers game.

 

[Jaylan]

So women are objectively judging a picture? Who cares?

How many dudes were saying Casey Anthony was hot? I can objectively say the woman wasnt a bad looking gal, but I wouldnt date her. Its the fvking internet. If people see an attractive photo, they will say so. Doesnt mean they will date the person or sleep with them if they are some lunatic.

Anyways, OP re-read ArcBound's post daily. Hoepfully youll wise up and improve yourself rather than b!tch about things. Thats what Im doing. Gym, good clothes, and taking care of my grooming right. If some chicks dont like me...thats just life.

 

[dutchmaster]

It's not just the looks, clearly he's alpha as fugg. You could see it, dude seems like a badass as it is, and on top of the looks/alpha look on his face hes in a mug shot. Maximum bad boy level reached. Theres straight dimes commenting on the pic about how wet they are for him lol.

Too bad for him, the only nuts hes gonna be busting are inside a prison shower now.

 

[BeDJ]

How about maybe you don't necessarily need to change anything but maybe try or get out more as that pick up is largely a numbers game.

Stagger and everyone in the same boat,

Charisma and Social Status is the most under-rated attraction trait for a man to possess. PUA and even SoSuave disregard it most of the time. I also believe that it is THE HARDEST trait to develop. It's quite easy to hit the gym, get a haircut and fill your mind with GAME material. It is much harder to develop a mindset on making other people like you. The problem lies in your ego. 99% of the people you talk to only care about themselves. Most PUA and Game technique teach you to only THINK about yourself. Do you see where the discrepancy lies? You have to learn to interact with people that benefits them, if they like you, they are more willing to cooperate. Be genuine when you talk to the other person about themselves. Remember that 80/20 conversation rule?

I am NOT saying that PUA and Game doesn't work.

Rather, I am encouraging others to simply be social. Raise your social awareness and status. Game and everything you've learned will easily fall into place. You will be more calibrated in using different technique under different circumstances. There is no one size fits all glove, but when you have developed charisma and social status, it becomes simple and effective.

I know a lot of guys on here are frustrated with the game, it happens. I've had it happen. The rationale behind it is "I understand the game techniques and I am applying them! Why am I not getting results?" Well, hate to break it to you, but you aren't a special snowflake. You're not the ones using negging, cf, whatever. There a million other guys just like you. Who also think they are hot sh!t. If it's not working, change your approach. Change your attitude. Change your mindset. Don't let your ego get in the way of success.

 

[dutchmaster]

Stagger and everyone in the same boat,

Charisma and Social Status is the most under-rated attraction trait for a man to possess. PUA and even SoSuave disregard it most of the time. I also believe that it is THE HARDEST trait to develop. It's quite easy to hit the gym, get a haircut and fill your mind with GAME material. It is much harder to develop a mindset on making other people like you. The problem lies in your ego. 99% of the people you talk to only care about themselves. Most PUA and Game technique teach you to only THINK about yourself. Do you see where the discrepancy lies? You have to learn to interact with people that benefits them, if they like you, they are more willing to cooperate. Be genuine when you talk to the other person about themselves. Remember that 80/20 conversation rule?

I am NOT saying that PUA and Game doesn't work.

Rather, I am encouraging others to simply be social. Raise your social awareness and status. Game and everything you've learned will easily fall into place. You will be more calibrated in using different technique under different circumstances. There is no one size fits all glove, but when you have developed charisma and social status, it becomes simple and effective.

This is true, I've always been told I'm extremely charismatic and make people very comfortable (I do this subconsciously, although I know how to consciously alter what I'm doing to make my charisma even stronger) but girls love me for it. I'm only above averages in looks, but my aura when I enter the room draws women to me. I've bagged a bunch of girls way above me in looks due to them loving my charisma, they would alwas tell me, "you're so hot, I don't know what it is. But something about you is really sexy". Once again I'm a 7 or so in looks on the face.

I have had plenty of good looking girls open to me at parties, bars, social events etc which I ended up banging. Whenever I talk to a girl too they seem very happy that I am. Guess Charisma can be magnetic. Lot of people just treat me nice cause of it, not just women. The only people that give me a hard time are haters.

Charisma is a very underrated trait in general, not even just attraction.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Stagger and everyone in the same boat,

Charisma and Social Status is the most under-rated attraction trait for a man to possess. PUA and even SoSuave disregard it most of the time. I also believe that it is THE HARDEST trait to develop. It's quite easy to hit the gym, get a haircut and fill your mind with GAME material. It is much harder to develop a mindset on making other people like you. The problem lies in your ego. 99% of the people you talk to only care about themselves. Most PUA and Game technique teach you to only THINK about yourself. Do you see where the discrepancy lies? You have to learn to interact with people that benefits them, if they like you, they are more willing to cooperate. Be genuine when you talk to the other person about themselves. Remember that 80/20 conversation rule?

I am NOT saying that PUA and Game doesn't work.

Rather, I am encouraging others to simply be social. Raise your social awareness and status. Game and everything you've learned will easily fall into place. You will be more calibrated in using different technique under different circumstances. There is no one size fits all glove, but when you have developed charisma and social status, it becomes simple and effective.

I know a lot of guys on here are frustrated with the game, it happens. I've had it happen. The rationale behind it is "I understand the game techniques and I am applying them! Why am I not getting results?" Well, hate to break it to you, but you aren't a special snowflake. You're not the ones using negging, cf, whatever. There a million other guys just like you. Who also think they are hot sh!t. If it's not working, change your approach. Change your attitude. Change your mindset. Don't let your ego get in the way of success.

I'm a decent looking guy. I'm just not as young as I use to be. I can admit my looks (not tactics) got me most of my lays and also my looks cost me most of failed approaches. The difference is I was the better looking guy going after that given level of girl and/or she was more into my looks than most other girls are.

I agree with the charisma thing to a degree. But for others to find you charasmatic you have to first have a level of attractiveness. One of the reasons its very hard to develop charisma is that women can be pretty brutal if they don't see you as an attractive enough guy. It's very draining to be charismatic when others are just leeching off of you or giving you nothing in return or worse rejecting you.

 

[ArcBound]

How about maybe you don't necessarily need to change anything but maybe try or get out more as that pick up is largely a numbers game.

Is that not itself a major change? I myself went from an introvert to an extrovert. By putting yourself into an uncomfortable situation and going out talking with people/women more you are changing a fundamental aspect of your personality and character.

And the debate is useless because it depends on so many factors. Obviously the uglier you are the more other qualities you might need to make up for it. And the more beautiful you are, the less you need to develop other traits. It can only go on a case by case basis, there is no set in stone rule.

For example, this man chose to change how he viewed life. He changed his personality, his attitude on life. This man is butt ugly and his SMV from the people on this forum would be an absolute 1.

http://www.strangeorwhat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SORW-Nick.jpg

http://www.barnorama.com/wp-content...r_with_no_arms_and_legs_welcomes_baby_boy.jpg

http://www.barnorama.com/wp-content...r_with_no_arms_and_legs_welcomes_baby_boy.jpg

And then we got latino OP here b!tching about looks are everything. Yes they constitute a big part of it, and the example I posted was extreme, but they can be overcome. Why worry about something you can't completely change like your natural looks? This man didn't worry about the fact that his only limb was his d!ck LOL. Yet look at him. Pretty wife. Children. What's he got that OP is missing?

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

I think looks do matter a lot up to a certain point but after it other things start to come into play. Its like if you have to at least be good looking enough to have a chance but after that it doesn't matter as much. A guy who is a 7 will do better than a guy who is an 8 if he has tighter game but an 8 will always do better than a 5 because at that point the drop off is too significant.

Good news is that if you aren't fat, have a fitting haircut, and aren't short you can be considered above average looking.

 

[Jaylan]

Is that not itself a major change? I myself went from an introvert to an extrovert. By putting yourself into an uncomfortable situation and going out talking with people/women more you are changing a fundamental aspect of your personality and character.

And the debate is useless because it depends on so many factors. Obviously the uglier you are the more other qualities you might need to make up for it. And the more beautiful you are, the less you need to develop other traits. It can only go on a case by case basis, there is no set in stone rule.

For example, this man chose to change how he viewed life. He changed his personality, his attitude on life. This man is butt ugly and his SMV from the people on this forum would be an absolute 1.

http://www.strangeorwhat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SORW-Nick.jpg

http://www.barnorama.com/wp-content...r_with_no_arms_and_legs_welcomes_baby_boy.jpg

http://www.barnorama.com/wp-content...r_with_no_arms_and_legs_welcomes_baby_boy.jpg

And then we got latino OP here b!tching about looks are everything. Yes they constitute a big part of it, and the example I posted was extreme, but they can be overcome. Why worry about something you can't completely change like your natural looks? This man didn't worry about the fact that his only limb was his d!ck LOL. Yet look at him. Pretty wife. Children. What's he got that OP is missing?

Lets be real. Motivational speakers like that guy make loot. Nick Vujicic makes good coin and you dont see regular disabled guys with women like that. So I dont see how sharing this guys life story helps anyone here.

And I wouldnt be surprised if she ever stepped out on him so she could get pounded by a very masculine male.

 

[ArcBound]

Lets be real. Motivational speakers like that guy make loot. You dont see regular disabled guys with women like that. So I dont see how sharing this guys life story helps anyone here.

And I wouldnt be surprised if she ever stepped out on him so she could get pounded by a very masculine male.

As I said it is an extreme example.

The point is not to show that if you are limbless man you can get hot chicks. The point is that looks and physical deformities can be overcome on some level.

 

[asa_don]

of course looks matter, if you say different you are fooling yourself. when you are good looking you have a greater chance of getting laid just based on looks, your game, income, social status all comes after that. if you have bad game and not a decent income you probably wont have a relationship but you can get laid in the short term easy.

who would women rather have had sex with Danny Devito or Harrison Ford?

who would women rather have had sex with chris farley or brad pitt?

 

[BeDJ]

Do you think negative outlook can be reflected during first impressions?