Proof that looks is all that matters (mugshot)

[Robert28]

Has anyone seen the second pic of the same guy floating around? Mouth full of gold teeth and skinny as a rail. lmao!

 

[JustOlder_!]

But what they most are attracted to is looks and appearance. A guy being about the best looking she can get is primacy and everything else is just to make up for him not being at the extreme end of good looking. Plenty of guys have everything but for thinning hair or maybe lacking height and boom they are out for a guy that isn't lacking in those areas even if he's lacking in others.[/QUOTE]


yeah, height is a killer. Lot of guys lose out on that one and their is no recourse. Just about everything else, a guy can improve somewhat. take the weight off; get in shape, color the grey, improve the style,..you have to put your best foot forward. Point is, the guy in the photo could be 5'1 inch and basically SC>>>>>REW>D

 

[asa_don]

I didn't want to post on this thread, but it won't go away, so...

I don't see what all the fuss is about, some of the women are simply judging a photo.

If a photo is all someone can judge you by, then that's what they'll do.

What OP needs to realise is that we aren't pictures, we are real life, actual people.

So, a women's judgement is based on EVERYTHING...looks are only significant if you are on the extreme.

well, you did post on this thread.

women judge men for online dating on just a photo don't they? if the men look like sh1t the women won't talk to them to get to know them in real life.

a guy who is a 9 won't be judged on anything except the woman will like his looks. the guy who is a 6 will be judged on everything.

women aren't judging this felon for "everything", they like his picture and want to bang him.

 

[TARKUS]

Has anyone seen the second pic of the same guy floating around? Mouth full of gold teeth and skinny as a rail. lmao!

How many women do you think after seeing that second pic deleted their comment & changed it to a thumbs down? :crackup:

 

[Stagger Lee]

a guy who is a 9 won't be judged on anything except the woman will like his looks. the guy who is a 6 will be misjudged on everything.

Furthermore, women will subjectively judge a guy's she finds good looking negative attributes positively, and subjectively judge a guy's she finds not good looking what should be positive attributes as negative. Women primarily judge a guy on looks/appearance then subjectively fill in the rest.

 

[Mike32ct]

Furthermore, women will subjectively judge a guy's she finds good looking negative attributes positively, and subjectively judge a guy's she finds not good looking what should be positive attributes as negative. Women primarily judge a guy on looks/appearance then subjectively fill in the rest.

Yes. If you are good looking, they put a positive spin on your other traits. If you aren't good looking, they out a negative or at best a neutral (little to no value) sort of spin on your other traits.

I have a running joke with my male coworker friend. I know when a good looking guy visits our office. I don't even have to see the guy. (I can't anyway with the cubicle walls.). If I hear the ladies in the office laughing at everything the guy visitor says (ie putting a positive spin on his humor skills), then I know he's good looking*.

*The coworker is a hot guy and even he agrees with my theory completely.

 

[AttackFormation]

Yes. If you are good looking, they put a positive spin on your other traits. If you aren't good looking, they out a negative or at best a neutral (little to no value) sort of spin on your other traits.

I have a running joke with my male coworker friend. I know when a good looking guy visits our office. I don't even have to see the guy. (I can't anyway with the cubicle walls.). If I hear the ladies in the office laughing at everything the guy visitor says (ie putting a positive spin on his humor skills), then I know he's good looking*.

*The coworker is a hot guy and even he agrees with my theory completely.

To be fair though men are dumb@sses, we do the same.

 

[mbas44]

So usually all you ever read on sites such as this is that looks arent a huge thing and having spent a lot of time lurking here it seems to be the general consensus. However something like this facebook picture comes up and suddenly it seems to totally go in the opposite direction. seems somewhat disjointed to me and like anything things most likely arent that black and white. Very much depends on circumstances.

 

[Stagger Lee]

To be fair though men are dumb@sses, we do the same.

Not really, not any where near how much women do and how subjectively they judge men. Lot's of guys have said, "too bad this girl is fat and unattractive because she has a good attitude and personality", or, "I don't even bother with 8's or 9s because of their attitudes". And unlike women, rarely do men twist negative attributes from a woman and completely subjectively twist them into positives, or twist positive attributes into negative ones.

Plus, unlike women, men don't deny that female looks are important in attraction and men are less nitpicky about every little appearance thing. Men are no where near as subjective of about a females attributes and nitpicky about appearance as women are.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Yes. If you are good looking, they put a positive spin on your other traits. If you aren't good looking, they out a negative or at best a neutral (little to no value) sort of spin on your other traits.

I have a running joke with my male coworker friend. I know when a good looking guy visits our office. I don't even have to see the guy. (I can't anyway with the cubicle walls.). If I hear the ladies in the office laughing at everything the guy visitor says (ie putting a positive spin on his humor skills), then I know he's good looking*.

*The coworker is a hot guy and even he agrees with my theory completely.

What was it some comedian said, maybe Chris Rock, "Men think funny sh!t is funny. Women think good looking men are funny"? I see younger handsome guys saying the most boring, lame and inane sh!t and girls eat it up. And a not as attractive guy can say the cleverest thing and the females will look at him like he's a loon, or at best realize it is funny but give him no credit for it.

So usually all you ever read on sites such as this is that looks arent a huge thing and having spent a lot of time lurking here it seems to be the general consensus. However something like this facebook picture comes up and suddenly it seems to totally go in the opposite direction. seems somewhat disjointed to me and like anything things most likely arent that black and white. Very much depends on circumstances.

It's not like that really. There's guys who hold two differing views. Probably the majority still think looks don't matter much to not at all. A few years ago you'd be ran out on a pole if you said looks matter much. After going out trying all the PUA and various strategies and approaching probably over a couple thousand times, I concluded that looks/appearance are supremely important. I've been saying it for probably over 7 years when it seemed almost no one else was. Now the majority admits looks matter at least some and many more are saying it matters supremely.

 

[AttackFormation]

Not really, not any where near how much women do and how subjectively they judge men. Lot's of guys have said, "too bad this girl is fat and unattractive because she has a good attitude and personality", or, "I don't even bother with 8's or 9s because of their attitudes". And unlike women, rarely do men twist negative attributes from a woman and completely subjectively twist them into positives, or twist positive attributes into negative ones.

Plus, unlike women, men don't deny that female looks are important in attraction and men are less nitpicky about every little appearance thing. Men are no where near as subjective of about a females attributes and nitpicky about appearance as women are.

I agree, I should've been clearer. What I meant was a lot of guys will give a woman special treatment, put up with her sh!t and give her things/do favours for her (ie. put her on a pedestal) just because she looks good. I mean that kind of supplicating behaviour that gives good looking women a "special box" by default is what gives those girls their attitudes in the first place.

 

[Stagger Lee]

I agree, I should've been clearer. What I meant was a lot of guys will give a woman special treatment, put up with her sh!t and give her things/do favours for her (ie. put her on a pedestal) just because she looks good. I mean that kind of supplicating behaviour that gives good looking women a "special box" by default is what gives those girls their attitudes in the first place.

That's true, men definitely do that. To some degree all women are being given special treatment. But I still think even most men that do that, even if they don't admit it, still realize the woman besides her attractiveness is otherwise useless and selfish or b!tchy. I think most men realize when attractive women aren't funny or lack good personalities and attitude despite their attractiveness.

you just like picking on me after I hit the 10 post rule :

That's because laughing at a guy's jokes is a way that girls flirt. If a girl is attracted to a guy, she will laugh at anything he says. It's a form of IOI. Except with attention hos, they do this intentionally to make the guy think she's interested in him, so she can get him on the hook for attention.

Well yeah it's an IOI and how women also flirt. That's a good point. But they actually seem to think the guy they're attracted to is funny and has positive traits xyz, and the guy they're not attracted to is not only not funny but weird and with negative traits abc. Neither actually has to objectively be true, it's all subjectively decided based on whether the female finds the male's looks attractive.

It goes way beyond flirting. Women ascribe qualities of humorous and other virtuous based on a picture or video of males they're not interacting with, vote based on appearance etc.

The point remains that a guy that a woman is not attracted to could be funny and have various positive traits and the guy she's attracted to might not be funny and have various negative traits but the woman often doesn't see it that way. The point is personality and game don't have much meaning because it's entirely subjectively perceived by women. You've admitted yourself that attractive looks male or female are pretty universal. Also they bring a halo effect.

 

[AttackFormation]

That's true, men definitely do that. To some degree all women are being given special treatment. But I still think even most men that do that, even if they don't admit it, still realize the woman besides her attractiveness is otherwise useless and selfish or b!tchy. I think most men realize when attractive women aren't funny or lack good personalities and attitude despite their attractiveness.

Good point. Sigh... the red pill is one hard @ss motherfvcker to digest. These truths are depressing, but true...

 

[zekko]

What was it some comedian said, maybe Chris Rock, "Men think funny sh!t is funny. Women think good looking men are funny"? I see younger handsome guys saying the most boring, lame and inane sh!t and girls eat it up. And a not as attractive guy can say the cleverest thing and the females will look at him like he's a loon, or at best realize it is funny but give him no credit for it.

That's because laughing at a guy's jokes is a way that girls flirt. If a girl is attracted to a guy, she will laugh at anything he says. It's a form of IOI. Except with attention hos, they do this intentionally to make the guy think she's interested in him, so she can get him on the hook for attention.

 

[asa_don]

i went out to dinner last night, these two women in their 40's had a whole conversation about this guy, crazy.

i guess he has a wife and she is mad about all the attention he is getting, his mother is trying to set up a donation fund for his defense. wonder how many women will donate to the cause. they even photoshopped this guy in calvin klien ads.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Lifestyle...ever-Arrested-felons-dreamy-photo-goes-viral/

 

[Navigator]

I'm a good looking guy. Believe me when I say that looks only get you so far, and come with their own set of problems.

Howdy Vice it would be quite interesting if you would elaborate on the set of problems you alluded to above. I have a feeling you are going to say good looks attracts superficial types.

 

[In2theGame]

Howdy Vice it would be quite interesting if you would elaborate on the set of problems you alluded to above. I have a feeling you are going to say good looks attracts superficial types.

I think what Vice was saying is that with being good looking, although its a huge help, the problems begin to creep when Women become insecure about it. Not trusting you, Feelings of jealousy because other women want you as well, Assumptions of being a player, A man who cant hold a stable relationship due to possibly finding a better/hotter girl, not believing you when you tell them you really like them because they assume you "say that to all the girls". In some extreme cases, Some women will wonder if your infested with STD's because of the assumption of sleeping around. I am a good looking guy that attract loads of women and this is what i have experienced. One the bright side, The pvssy comes easy and you can meet new women with absolutely no problems.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

You people don't know what good looking is. Go chat up this mystical hb9s lolololol.

 

[VikingKing]

Is that not itself a major change? I myself went from an introvert to an extrovert. By putting yourself into an uncomfortable situation and going out talking with people/women more you are changing a fundamental aspect of your personality and character.

And the debate is useless because it depends on so many factors. Obviously the uglier you are the more other qualities you might need to make up for it. And the more beautiful you are, the less you need to develop other traits. It can only go on a case by case basis, there is no set in stone rule.

For example, this man chose to change how he viewed life. He changed his personality, his attitude on life. This man is butt ugly and his SMV from the people on this forum would be an absolute 1.

http://www.strangeorwhat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SORW-Nick.jpg

http://www.barnorama.com/wp-content...r_with_no_arms_and_legs_welcomes_baby_boy.jpg

http://www.barnorama.com/wp-content...r_with_no_arms_and_legs_welcomes_baby_boy.jpg

And then we got latino OP here b!tching about looks are everything. Yes they constitute a big part of it, and the example I posted was extreme, but they can be overcome. Why worry about something you can't completely change like your natural looks? This man didn't worry about the fact that his only limb was his d!ck LOL. Yet look at him. Pretty wife. Children. What's he got that OP is missing?

Ha. Near the end of our infantry school this guy was a speaker. Sh!t was funny. But he is pretty confident, but rich.

 

[No.Danny]

^ to answer your question.
A SET of balls!