Projection or am I at fault

[The Duke]

Where did you get "much worse" from? Is this the oft-seen issue on this forum where people get all fatherly and try to play every issue back on the poster?

perhaps you misread, but there are some utter tools on here who take pride in not actually reading post and get a hard-on for anything which can put OP at fault.

From right here.....by the sound of it you drink heavily more often. You have also been drunk and did stupid things multiples times that you have lost A LOT of friends....that sounds much worse than what she did.

Wise words. Issue is, I drink heavily and also act a fool and I've been told off by her numerous times.

She rarely drinks and it's usually on my encouragement but JESUS"! Howling, crying, literally acting like a toddler!! The last time she told me she was pregnant while I was with my friends. She has no crazy AT ALL sober but goes insane drunk.

You see, I forgive because I lost a LOT of friends due to stuff I've done drunk so I forgive her this and she also doesn't ever want to drink, so it's not like she will do it on the regular.

 

[Fruitbat]

From right here.....by the sound of it you drink heavily more often. You have also been drunk and did stupid things multiples times that you have lost A LOT of friends....that sounds much worse than what she did.

Wise words. Issue is, I drink heavily and also act a fool and I've been told off by her numerous times.

She rarely drinks and it's usually on my encouragement but JESUS"! Howling, crying, literally acting like a toddler!! The last time she told me she was pregnant while I was with my friends. She has no crazy AT ALL sober but goes insane drunk.

You see, I forgive because I lost a LOT of friends due to stuff I've done drunk so I forgive her this and she also doesn't ever want to drink, so it's not like she will do it on the regular.

I've acted a fool as in I've danced at a club, told a few stupid jokes and fell over.

I lost a lot of friends about 3 years ago following my wife developing schizophrenia and having to break up, whilst supporting her for 2 years and having a massive guilt complex which made me an alcoholic for 6 months. Also, had to have tests for MS and my mother went completely borderline, almost starved herself to death, so I genuinely could not cope.

My life was not smiles and sunshine at that time.

The fact I like getting wasted once a week or twice a month is not an encouragement to act like this.

You've chosen to interpret my words in the way you wanted.

 

[speed dawg]

I would caution some of you clowns about excusing this girl's behavior as a 'modern women' problem. A drunk person's actions are a sober person's thoughts, or swapped around, however the saying goes. This woman has issues, that much is fact. And it also sounds to me like she'd go back to her ex if he'd take her back.

Bottom line, a girl with high IL doesn't put you through this type of stuff. There is no "doghouse" or any of that other dumb femcentric lingo. You are totally into HER frame, in HER world, on HER terms. I suspect she will be leaving you soon, and that is a good thing honestly, for multiple reasons, 1 - she's crazy, and 2 - perhaps you'll finally wake up. You've been around this forum a while now Fruitbat, but you don't seem to be getting the red pill reality.

As far as the modern women rhetoric, yes we are an entitled society, but women are still women, they are reactive to men.

 

[Fruitbat]

I would caution some of you clowns about excusing this girl's behavior as a 'modern women' problem. A drunk person's actions are a sober person's thoughts, or swapped around, however the saying goes. This woman has issues, that much is fact. And it also sounds to me like she'd go back to her ex if he'd take her back.

Bottom line, a girl with high IL doesn't put you through this type of stuff. There is no "doghouse" or any of that other dumb femcentric lingo. You are totally into HER frame, in HER world, on HER terms. I suspect she will be leaving you soon, and that is a good thing honestly, for multiple reasons, 1 - she's crazy, and 2 - perhaps you'll finally wake up. You've been around this forum a while now Fruitbat, but you don't seem to be getting the red pill reality.

As far as the modern women rhetoric, yes we are an entitled society, but women are still women, they are reactive to men.

No, because red pill is OK to a point, as in realising that what women respond to is different to what they say, but living a red pill life, the full red pill, is a cowardly act, it's a huge sulk in my opinion.

If drunk people's actions are indicative of the reality, 3 years ago I beat my best friends a$$ (hospitalised). He's my best mate and I'd die for the guy, so I would disagree that it's the true person emerging.

You come off a bit negative to be honest buddy, they aren't all bad, and I've already had multiple predictions of doom and, this aside, we're solid as a rock. The problem is, I don't post about the memories scrapbook she made for us, I don't post about the time she buys me clothes, or how she spends half her paycheck taking me to my favourite restaurant.

Having been depressed, I remember well the need to paint the worst, and I have indeed been around this forum a long time, and I don't fit with the worldview of some posters, but that's life. I feel I can make some good contributions and I get some really good advice at times, and I get you're trying to help, but there's really no issue, people do silly shyt when they're drunk and if that's making excuses,then I am not sure what standard we hold women to account, because everyone makes mistakes and you'll be single a long time waiting for a woman who doesn't cause the odd argument from time to time.

I'm happier than I've been in years, I just tend to post the problems here (you don't post the good stuff) so you are forgiven for thinking it's some hellhole of chick. I left for about 3 months because all was gravy!

 

[AJ84]

No, because red pill is OK to a point, as in realising that what women respond to is different to what they say, but living a red pill life, the full red pill, is a cowardly act, it's a huge sulk in my opinion.

If drunk people's actions are indicative of the reality, 3 years ago I beat my best friends a$$ (hospitalised). He's my best mate and I'd die for the guy, so I would disagree that it's the true person emerging.

You come off a bit negative to be honest buddy, they aren't all bad, and I've already had multiple predictions of doom and, this aside, we're solid as a rock. The problem is, I don't post about the memories scrapbook she made for us, I don't post about the time she buys me clothes, or how she spends half her paycheck taking me to my favourite restaurant.

Having been depressed, I remember well the need to paint the worst, and I have indeed been around this forum a long time, and I don't fit with the worldview of some posters, but that's life. I feel I can make some good contributions and I get some really good advice at times, and I get you're trying to help, but there's really no issue, people do silly shyt when they're drunk and if that's making excuses,then I am not sure what standard we hold women to account, because everyone makes mistakes and you'll be single a long time waiting for a woman who doesn't cause the odd argument from time to time.

I'm happier than I've been in years, I just tend to post the problems here (you don't post the good stuff) so you are forgiven for thinking it's some hellhole of chick. I left for about 3 months because all was gravy!

You seem to have some insight into the drinking thing, how it affects you, how it affects her, and the problem that it causes. Both of you can communicate around this to look at ways to let loose and unwind but be mindful of the behaviour.

Some guys, (and some girls), are so quick to just drop someone the minute they aren't a puppet on a string for them. Like you said everyone makes mistakes, and how is anyone going to find that 'elusive' quality person if they just next people without giving them a chance right? Self destructive advice is always so easy to give when it doesn't affect the person giving it.