Progress Report - 8 months at the Gym compared to 6 months

[switch7]

Lol 50 pounds dumbbell or 100 pounds barbell is not heavy curling. Jesus Christ.

Why are you making this into a competition of who is strongest? Stop taking things as a personal attack and actually take some advice on board.

You could easily lift more than that if you really put the effort in. My dad was curling 120 pounds barbell after a few months in the gym and he was 60 at the time.

You've done great with your fat loss, but you ain't moving any heavy weights it's obviously from your pics. And you could, you have a big frame and you're a big guy. You have a lot of potential. If you wanna just have a dad bod then that's fine. Just don't make out like 50 pounds dbell curl is heavy cos you are only kidding yourself at the end of the day.

 

[Thorninmyside]

I would double down on the weights. At the very least, it's good time-management for a busy guy. Lifting can burn calories up to 38 hours after your session. Cardio is good for health but stops the moment you do. For toning, kettlebell on your non gym days. 300 swings will have the BF melting away if your diet is in check.

 

[marmel75]

Lol 50 pounds dumbbell or 100 pounds barbell is not heavy curling. Jesus Christ.

Why are you making this into a competition of who is strongest? Stop taking things as a personal attack and actually take some advice on board.

You could easily lift more than that if you really put the effort in. My dad was curling 120 pounds barbell after a few months in the gym and he was 60 at the time.

You've done great with your fat loss, but you ain't moving any heavy weights it's obviously from your pics. And you could, you have a big frame and you're a big guy. You have a lot of potential. If you wanna just have a dad bod then that's fine. Just don't make out like 50 pounds dbell curl is heavy cos you are only kidding yourself at the end of the day.

I used to one arm barbell row 230 lbs..that's some heavy weight...50 lb curls...not so much.

 

[marmel75]

Yes, 50 pound with one arm (100 pounds as you hold two) is heavy curling. That's the heaviest dumbbell in my set. Are you saying you curl with 80s? Those are for shrugs.

I'd like to arm wrestle you. I was the strongest arm wrestler in my high school, and am stronger now, and you're pretending I'm below average strength. You're talking out your as-s. Show us a video of you curling 50lb 10 times with one arm.

Sorry if my physique will conceivably only compare to the greatest NFL player of all time and not the most jacked NFL player of all time.

Oh, and sorry that my HB9 20 year old only stayed with me 9 months.

It might be that you guys have impossibly high standards. I wonder if you are living those standards or simply holding me to them.

You're talking about that "I won 5 Super Bowls" guy? The "I won Super Bowls at age 37 and age 39" guy? Let me guess: you wanted Seattle and Atlanta to win.

You are below average strength.

At 188lbs pounds :

I deadlifted 565 lbs
I squatted 475 lbs
I declined 380 lbs x 2(can't flat bench it jacks up my shoulders).
I shrugged 515 lbs for multiple reps and sets..

I did multiple sets of pull ups with 90-115 lbs on a weight belt and dips with 135 lbs on a belt...

I used the entire stack for multiple reps on lat pulldowns, hamstring curls, leg extensions, and triceps pressdowns.

Those are all elite or near elite numbers.

Curling 50lbs is not. And if your trainer is telling you it is, get a new trainer. I'm dead ass serious.

 

[guru1000]

Those are good numbers Marmel. I don't one-rep max anymore; too many injuries, but here are my stats at 190lbs, 10% bf:

Flat Bench: 315 by 5-7 reps. All-time max at 23 yo was 495 lbs (5 Plates) for 1 rep.

Dead Lifts: 405 4-5 reps.

Front Military Press: 275 5-7 reps. All time max at 23 yos was 375 for 7 reps.

Squats: 405 4-5 reps (in the bucket)

 

[marmel75]

Those are good numbers Marmel. I don't one-rep max anymore; too many injuries, but here are my stats at 190lbs, 10% bf:

Flat Bench: 315 by 5-7 reps. All-time max at 23 yo was 495 lbs (5 Plates) for 1 rep.

Dead Lifts: 405 4-5 reps.

Front Military Press: 275 5-7 reps. All time max at 23 yos was 375 for 7 reps.

Squats: 405 4-5 reps (in the bucket)

Were brother, were...I don't go super heavy anymore either due to injuries also(actually all 3 of those lifts I ended up getting injured on to varying degrees)..those were probably from about 2 years ago or so...

Although I have been killing the hammer strength machine lately...doing presses with 5 plates on both sides which equates to 450lbs of weight plus the machine...

But as everyone knows those aren't apples to apples comparison with free weights, but even so thats still some serious weight...even if it's only like 315 lbs on a regular bench, lol

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

My lean muscle mass is around 190lb.

Lean mass, not lean muscle mass. Basically referring to all the mass in your body BUT fat.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Those are good numbers Marmel. I don't one-rep max anymore; too many injuries, but here are my stats at 190lbs, 10% bf:

Flat Bench: 315 by 5-7 reps. All-time max at 23 yo was 495 lbs (5 Plates) for 1 rep.

Dead Lifts: 405 4-5 reps.

Front Military Press: 275 5-7 reps. All time max at 23 yos was 375 for 7 reps.

Squats: 405 4-5 reps (in the bucket)

Were brother, were...I don't go super heavy anymore either due to injuries also(actually all 3 of those lifts I ended up getting injured on to varying degrees)..those were probably from about 2 years ago or so...

Although I have been killing the hammer strength machine lately...doing presses with 5 plates on both sides which equates to 450lbs of weight plus the machine...

But as everyone knows those aren't apples to apples comparison with free weights, but even so thats still some serious weight...even if it's only like 315 lbs on a regular bench, lol

I have a question for you guys. Do you think that maybe you can't test your 1RM is because you guys actually injured yourselves due to old age and/or wear & tear, or because your body has reached its physical max or damn near it? And if you were able to lift those numbers in your early 20s, do you think that you wouldn't have gotten injured or still likely simply because of the weight you're both pushing?

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Since we are giving out free advice on working out. I am currently 194. 5'10, been working out for 3 months now and have seen minor changed. I don't want to get bulky or I want to have a lean, toned physique.

Any tips for diet and or workouts?
My workout consists of 35 minutes of Kettlebell with the bells be 30 and a half pounds )varying exercises
180 tire lift
stairmaster for 5 minutes
Medicine ball tosses 4 sets for 4 minutes
box jumps 4 sets of 10
30 pound dumbells 4 sets of 12 (2 variations)
concept 2 rower for 2000 meters,
and I do various upper body and lower body weights machines in the gym usually 4 sets of 10-12 reps

Is this feasible?

 

[marmel75]

I have a question for you guys. Do you think that maybe you can't test your 1RM is because you guys actually injured yourselves due to old age and/or wear & tear, or because your body has reached its physical max or damn near it? And if you were able to lift those numbers in your early 20s, do you think that you wouldn't have gotten injured or still likely simply because of the weight you're both pushing?

It's hard to say...I was far stronger at 40 than I was in my early 20s because I was doing a lot more cardio since I was a soccer player...far bigger and muscular as well...I often was told I either looked like a personal trainer or a college linebacker...

I think eventually you just reach your limits...tendons and ligaments grow far slower than muscles do given their relative lack of blood flow to those areas...

Could I have maybe squeezed out another 20-30 lbs of I waited a couple months to go for 1RMs?? Perhaps, but I still probably would have ended up hurting myself in the long run.

 

[guru1000]

I have a question for you guys. Do you think that maybe you can't test your 1RM is because you guys actually injured yourselves due to old age and/or wear & tear, or because your body has reached its physical max or damn near it? And if you were able to lift those numbers in your early 20s, do you think that you wouldn't have gotten injured or still likely simply because of the weight you're both pushing?

Not warming up; not stretching when needed; underdeveloped tendons to muscle development; wear/tear; over-training; inadequate nutrition. When you put up these kinds of numbers for many years; it's inevitable you will get injured.

I tore my chest three times; the last tear stripped the muscle right out of my armpit, bunching together in my chest (no surgery, I left as is). I injured my delts 3-4 times; lower and upper back at least a dozen times. My body has taken quite a beating over the years. No matter, I'm still swinging big.

 

[marmel75]

Not warming up; not stretching when needed; underdeveloped tendons to muscle development; wear/tear; over-training; inadequate nutrition. When you put up these kinds of numbers for many years; it's inevitable you will get injured.

I tore my chest three times; the last tear stripped the muscle right out of my armpit, bunching together in my chest (no surgery, I left as is). I injured my delts 3-4 times; lower and upper back at least a dozen times. My body has taken quite a beating over the years. No matter, I'm still swinging big.

Yeah that was a big thing with me too...I became very inflexible the bigger and more muscular I got...I have extremely tight hip flexors and hamstrings...definitely should have paid more attention to that...trainer had me doing a lot of yoga and Pilates after the fact but it was too late...helped a lot but still was relatively inflexible..

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Don't put too much stock in a personal trainer, most are just going through the motions, one guy was getting personal training and he proceeded to do the 180 tire lift, when he went to squat and grab the bottom of the tire his back was rounded and arched. His form was poor and the trainer didn't tell him to correct it, guy could of blew his back out

 

[marmel75]

Don't put too much stock in a personal trainer, most are just going through the motions, one guy was getting personal training and he proceeded to do the 180 tire lift, when he went to squat and grab the bottom of the tire his back was rounded and arched. His form was poor and the trainer didn't tell him to correct it, guy could of blew his back out

I don't in most...I have a tremendous amount of respect for mine...he is phenomenal and gets results

 

[skinnyguy]

You are below average strength.

At 188lbs pounds :

I deadlifted 565 lbs
I squatted 475 lbs
I declined 380 lbs x 2(can't flat bench it jacks up my shoulders).
I shrugged 515 lbs for multiple reps and sets..

I did multiple sets of pull ups with 90-115 lbs on a weight belt and dips with 135 lbs on a belt...

I used the entire stack for multiple reps on lat pulldowns, hamstring curls, leg extensions, and triceps pressdowns.

Those are all elite or near elite numbers.

Curling 50lbs is not. And if your trainer is telling you it is, get a new trainer. I'm dead ass serious.

Didn't know this was gonna be a brag thread lol. I can squat 95 is that impressive???

 

[marmel75]

Didn't know this was gonna be a brag thread lol. I can squat 95 is that impressive???

It wasn't until a guy wanted to insist curling 50 lb DB's meant he was strong.

 

[SteR]

Those are good numbers Marmel. I don't one-rep max anymore; too many injuries, but here are my stats at 190lbs, 10% bf:

Flat Bench: 315 by 5-7 reps. All-time max at 23 yo was 495 lbs (5 Plates) for 1 rep.

Dead Lifts: 405 4-5 reps.

Front Military Press: 275 5-7 reps. All time max at 23 yos was 375 for 7 reps.

Squats: 405 4-5 reps (in the bucket)

How are your joints just out of interest? You're in your 40s right? I'm only 33 and already have tonnes of issues (but I've been lifting since I was 15)

 

[guru1000]

How are your joints just out of interest? You're in your 40s right? I'm only 33 and already have tonnes of issues (but I've been lifting since I was 15)

Fish oil (EPA/DHA), 5 grams a day. Good for the joints; skin and hair, inter alia, too.

 

[SteR]

Fish oil (EPA/DHA), 5 grams a day. Good for the joints; skin and hair, inter alia, too.

Been taking fish oil most of my adult life, and yea it helps, but there's no way my joints can handle the weights of my youth any more...

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yeah that was a big thing with me too...I became very inflexible the bigger and more muscular I got...I have extremely tight hip flexors and hamstrings...definitely should have paid more attention to that...trainer had me doing a lot of yoga and Pilates after the fact but it was too late...helped a lot but still was relatively inflexible..

How tall were you for these 188lb lifts?