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Originally posted by princelydeeds
Wyldfire I've read alot of your posts (5300+) and you always manage to give a peaches and cream "not all women," response. From the way you describe yourself, you are the perfect woman, you are smart, make lots of money, you hunt, fish , cook, take good care of yourself, and now you are super parent who thinks her teenage boys are perfect little virginy angels. Unless, I have you confused with someone else I seem to recall you describing yourself as a woman who is not afraid to be a total wh0re in the bed room.

Me thinks you sound a little too good to be true. Most things in life that sound too good to be true, usually are too good to be true! Not a flame but an observation.
I procrastinate and I'm extremely shallow and picky about a lot of things. I'm also very impatient about some things and opinionated about a lot of things. My confidence borders on arrogance and I am very stubborn. I'm a commitment-phobe, too. I've never claimed to be perfect...but I do know that I'm a damn great woman and person. And all the positive things I've alluded to regarding my personality and traits are entirely true. In fact, every relationship I've been in, I have ended. The man always either asks me to marry him or brings up the subject and hints about doing it. Those who really know me would agree with me about the type of person I am. For the most part, all of you on here don't really see me as the person I am. Occassionally I show the softer side of my personality on here, but for the most part you all see the strong, hard, and cold side of me, because that is the side I'm showing most of the time on here.

And posts like the one you made are not helpful at all. Some people feel like I end up talking about myself too much...which is often true. That happens because a lot of the guys on here feel the need to attack me. Much of the time my comments are not much, if any different from a lot of the guys who post on here, yet no one attacks those guys. Bottom line...some attack me just because I am a woman. If they would just knock that stupid sh*t off there would be less posts from me like this one and more posts with advice and suggestions. I have VERY good and helpful insights to share but I spend so much time having to defend myself that I end up doing more of that than contributing useful content. I would much rather offer advice and input than deflect insults and attacks.

Just something to think about...
 

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Originally posted by octane_orphan
How do you deal with professional women ?

For example doctors, lawyers that give you this blank kind of expression when you are introduced to them and they tend to keep a very cold front.

Similar question to - http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71988
some people are all personal
some people are all buisness
and then there are some that know that know the difference
 

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Just release the ego. Be one with the earth. Reattach to your roots and let your mother heal you.

Or maybe you all need a vacation?
 

princelydeeds

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Originally posted by Wyldfire

And posts like the one you made are not helpful at all. Some people feel like I end up talking about myself too much...which is often true. That happens because a lot of the guys on here feel the need to attack me. Much of the time my comments are not much, if any different from a lot of the guys who post on here, yet no one attacks those guys. Bottom line...some attack me just because I am a woman. If they would just knock that stupid sh*t off there would be less posts from me like this one and more posts with advice and suggestions. I have VERY good and helpful insights to share but I spend so much time having to defend myself that I end up doing more of that than contributing useful content. I would much rather offer advice and input than deflect insults and attacks.

Just something to think about...
Let me get this straight, my post which questions the pedestal you have created for yourself isn't helpful, but the thousands of posts where you place yourself on that pedestal are helpful....ummmm...ok? I won't lie, I've never met and probably will never see a woman as wonderful as yourself. Where would I find you or someone as wonderful as you? Maybe hanging out with santa clause, the easter bunny, and the tooth fairy?

With that I'm done. I'm sure you will give me a long winded response but I dont care to hear it.
 

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It is indeed a woman's choice to get work or not. I have nothing against personal choice. Women are just as capable as men of being professionals.

However, when working women insult housewives, they aren't doing anyone favors. My mother raised my bro and I very well: we're both on the way to being very wealthy individuals with great jobs, and its all because she took the time to teach us about life and take care of us when we needed her. I have complete respect for home makers.

As a man, I'm never getting married, but if I had a choice, it would be to a girl who would take care of our children. One parent needs to make the money, and one needs to raise the children to be good citizens. If both parents are working, the kids are raised by their 'nanny'(ies), which just isn't healthy. It makes people cold and distant. That's just how I see it.
 

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OK, a few things here

First off Wyldefife

I have no sympathy for you and the Borderline, Abusive, drunk. It was your choice to marry hime, and it was your choice to let him impregnate you. Another calassic case of women loving *******s. You made your bed, you lay in it.

It also goes to show how little reguard you do have for anyones feeling but your own. You decided to breed with this guy knowing that he was in the condition he was and that he would never be a good father. You did this for one of 2 reasons

1 In order to try and help him, you thought that giving him children, might calm him dowm. Again. this is just your nuturing side comimg out. A woman's natural instinct.

2 You were just plain selfish and didnt want to loose him, so you figured you would trap him wth children.

And please don't give me that ohhh so common excuse of he wasn't like that when we first met ****. People don't change that drastically. Chances are he exhibited Alcoholic and Borderline Tendencies when you first met (that is propbably one of the things that you were attracterd to about him).

You may have been blind to all this, but that just goes to show how much you pay aattention

See in the end, you decided to let this guy impregnate you. On more than one occasion I mind you.

So, get off your sooapbox, and stop trying to deminish the good life that some women are trying to have with a normal man who wants his wife to fais his family at home.
 

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Ok, let zolo break it down for you.

Men's most important instinct after personal survival is survival of the species. This holds true for humans, dogs, and insects.

And by survival of the species I mean making babies.

Now you tell me. Is he going to choose a good looking 22 years old girls who is still young enough to give him 4 or 5 children and is willing to stay home with them and raise them properly, or a thirty something professional whose ovaries are dried up and at best can give him one or two kids that she will half azz raise?

Men couldn't give 2 flyin sh**s about how much money a women makes or how sucessful you are in your carrer. It doesn't make us insecure. It make you less desirable on the breeding scale. Yes, I said it. Men dont want to breed with a woiman who is old and never going to be around to rais ethe kids.


See, truth be told, all the bleach, bottox, silicone, and whatever other chemicals that come out of the DOW corporation cant do one thing. They cant give a woman back her child bearing years.

Sure you can implant your boobs, get a face lift, cover up those greys, and do whatever the hell else it is you do, but you know why you girls do that. To give the illusion that you are still young and fertile. Because young and fertile is what is attractive and femine to men


And that is the truth.

Nature is Nature, and society isn't going to change it
 

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WildP*ssy is a poster child for this entire generation of f*ckd women

Honestly,this chick is a study in this generation's pathetic, screw*ed up women.

She's arrogant, antagonistic, vulgar, disrespectful and filled with all manner of false beliefs.

90% of the divorces in this country are done by women. Like the rest of her sisterhood,she's always been the one to end a relationship.

She repeats the feminist nonsense of how unfulling it is to be without career ; yet ,scientific surveys by labor economists, indicate that most (60%) of the labor force suffers with unfullfilling jobs that they don't like. Rather than appreciating her enviable circumstances and the man who provides it,she complains of how horrible it was to be at home ; yet,she speaks of no effort on her part to read, do relaxed and rewarding volunteer work, or to join book clubs.

Instead, with her 3 kids in tow, and she finds a criminal to scre*w.

She loves the "bad boy" and is engaged for five years, but the wedding plans are interrupted because he is..................murdered. But she proclaims, he was a "damn great man." Yet, 85% of these "great men criminals" recidivise within a 5 year period.

She's now 40; what ever beauty she once had has faded. In fact, she looks quite BOVINE (cow-ish)--see her picture at her website.

And she spends countless hours (6300 postings or something) giving advise to US on how to have relationships?

WTF!

There's an entire generation of these babes.

Who the hell would want them?
 

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I could never understand these women that ***** about staying at home.

I would love to fid a woman who is willing to work and let me stay at home and raise kids.

Do they actually think we enjoy getting up every morning and orking 8-10 hours a day all the while missing our childs first steps and first words?

Men miss so much of the important little things, that these women take for granted.

Like others said if they get that bored do voulenteer work or get a hobby, but no they look at it as enslavement and turn to ****ing the pool boy.

You want to know what enslavement is, getting up and driving to the same job everyday and missing your kids grow up. That is enslavement.

We sacrrafice that so you can experience it, and you tell us we are enslaving you.

Women are so ****ing ungreatful
 

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Hey Paradox, have the mods ever thought of renting out threads so posts like this could be a revenue stream for the board? Just something to think about.... :D

Don't talk about fight Club. We don't really want people to know about this site but somehow 15,600 people found out about it.
 

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My take:

ONE of the parents has to be home with the kids. That is it.The way I see it from personal experience, children who have their mothers around turn out to be better people. They need the nurturing. Otherwise they feel alone and become very distant, brooding adults.

Since I am going to be a professional making a good deal of money, I am not going to have children with a woman UNLESS she commits to taking care of them at our home. That is not HELL as some women put it, or OPPRESSION. Maybe in the 50s but not now. Women are free to work, or to stay home and take care of things. My preference is for one who will stay home and take care of the kids.

P.S. Someone should close this thread. It's become a forum for a 40ish bored woman and a few soapbox-craving boys to wag their tongues at each other. The topic of professional women is interesting, but this has degraded.
 
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Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
You sure like treading in troubled water:confused:

I wonder why you post here, how does the DJ forum help you? Do you frequent here for entertainment?

Oh well, thanks for providing the boys a punching bag--- halfway kidding
I post here to offer advice and input. See, I'm one of the few women who will actually tell guys the truth...even if it's something they aren't going to be comfortable hearing. Often when they aren't comfortable hearing the truth they claim they wish women would tell them...they insult and attack me. Go figure...and guys wonder why women lie to them. If they can't handle the truth then they shouldn't ask for it. :woo:
 

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Originally posted by Luveno
My take:

ONE of the parents has to be home with the kids. That is it.The way I see it from personal experience, children who have their mothers around turn out to be better people. They need the nurturing. Otherwise they feel alone and become very distant, brooding adults.

Since I am going to be a professional making a good deal of money, I am not going to have children with a woman UNLESS she commits to taking care of them at our home. That is not HELL as some women put it, or OPPRESSION. Maybe in the 50s but not now. Women are free to work, or to stay home and take care of things. My preference is for one who will stay home and take care of the kids.

P.S. Someone should close this thread. It's become a forum for a 40ish bored woman and a few soapbox-craving boys to wag their tongues at each other. The topic of professional women is interesting, but this has degraded.

there are lots of women who do want to stay home with their kids.
my neighbor, has 6 kids, ranging from 2 months to 11 years. they are all home schooled and are well rounded . im amazed by her.
then there are others, who dont want to stay home.

i think alot of it depends on income, can you afford to stay home? must you work for the bills ? stuff like that.
 

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I think a mother should stay at home until her children are school age. I don't see a purpose of her being home all day, when the children are at school. I'm sorry but house work and cleaning shouldn't be an 8 hr job.

I think women with children should try to find careers that aren't too demanding of their time. Most families need two working parents.

I;m looking for a sexy school teacher. My desire for a non career women is selfish, Im high maintenance, and need attention.
 

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Rollo's post was on the money. I just bumped into this type, nice to see the situation described in print.
 

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Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
I think a mother should stay at home until her children are school age. I don't see a purpose of her being home all day, when the children are at school. I'm sorry but house work and cleaning shouldn't be an 8 hr job.

I think women with children should try to find careers that aren't too demanding of their time. Most families need two working parents.

I;m looking for a sexy school teacher. My desire for a non career women is selfish, Im high maintenance, and need attention.
well i can agree that most families need two incomes and i can also agree that if you have two parents at home maybe the mother should stay home until they go to school.
after that get a carreer .
that was my original plan, until the divorce and i was forced to provided the bacon for the family.
now i am accustomed to doing all the work , i wouldnt know how to stay home .
 

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How do I trap me a nice school teacher, thaT will take care of me?
 

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Originally posted by Luveno
Hello children,

you're tarnishing this interesting thread with piddly internet shouting matches. It would be greatly appreciated by all readers if you would take your problems elsewhere.
I would much prefer to stick to the topic. However, I am not going to tolerate being attacked and insulted. I treat others with the same level of respect and consideration as they show to me. When the boys decide they'd like to grow up and become men this sort of thing won't happen anymore.
 

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Originally posted by penkitten
there are lots of women who do want to stay home with their kids.
my neighbor, has 6 kids, ranging from 2 months to 11 years. they are all home schooled and are well rounded . im amazed by her.
then there are others, who dont want to stay home.
Why is this amazing? Presumably she chose to have 6 children of her own accord. I'll also assume that all 6 were fathered by the same man, yes? I assume because statistically this is rarely the case. Personally I'd be more amazed by the man with the capacity to provide for 6 children and a wife.

Here's a little example of my own; I once worked for a guy who had 3 kids and a stay-at-home wife. I knew him (and got the job) because I knew his wife from a prior job just before she had their first child. She was the consumate 'professional' woman at that time, going on about how women earn less than men and the rest of the standard talking points, right up until she left for her pregnancy leave. She made it known that she wouldn't leave her career and would be returning to work in 6 weeks (standard pregnancy leave). I should also add that her husband had to take vacation time from his job to be at her labor and birthing and about 3 days after the birth at his own expense. On the 7th week, after birth and nurturing the child she announced she was quitting. All notions of a 'professional' career flew out the window.

I kept in touch with her and her husband for a few years until I started working for the guy's agency, when I learned that she had made an attempt to return to her career right up to the point that they had their 2nd child. This was the last nail in the career coffin for her. She was officially a housewife then, not by choice, but by necessity. You see, it was more costly for her to persue her career than it was to pay for all-daycare for 2 children for 5 days a week. She had essentially started her own day-care business for her 2 and then 3 kids since the amount of money she earned weekly from her career was about the same as keeping her children in day care. Regardless of the circumstance, it was her choice that effected this change in she and her husband's lives.

As I said in my first post, you cannot 'have it all, baby'. Women will make a choice at some point or it will be made for them.

I do think there needs to be some distinction between the term 'professional' women and working women. This is a point of contention that women seem to blur more often than not. A working woman isn't necessarily a 'professional' woman. Everyone has to work these days in some respect. My wife is a CT scanner at a local hospital here, but she would never characterize herself as a 'professional', career minded woman. She works because it contributes to our collective well being, not because she's 'driven to success' or has aspirations of running her own department. In fact she's continually stated that she'd love to be a stay at home mother; and could we afford this, I'd be happy to have her do so. Employment is a necessity for us both and many single women as well. These are working women, who understand the choice between family life and work life and, given the option, would readily become fulltime mothers.

Professional women are those who have made a conscious decision (whether they're aware of it or not) to forego a traditional family life in favor of pursuing a career. And as I stated in my prior post, it's when preofessional women don't make the mental connection of the choice they've made that the problems begin. It's when they entertain the belief that they can have it all, they expect a man to be attracted to them based on their professional status, or they expect a man to assume a traditionally feminine gender role, that this narrow, self-serving world collapses in on her. This is not to disparage a woman seeking out a rewarding career or to devalue this particular choice, if that choice is fully understood and the expectations are realistic. It's just an observation of women wanting their cake and eating it too from being sold an unrealistic bill of goods and being falsely empowered with a sense of entitlement at a male's expense.

I'll finish here by pointing out that none of this applies to men. We simply do not have the option (or desire really) to be anything less than professional, to be anything less than motivated and ambitious. It's what's expected of us. Now, before I get all of the examples of at-home-dads or 'house husbands', let me say that you will never hear a guy on a date when asked about his future ambitions state how he'd like to settle down with a woman who's a good earner, stay at home with his kids and be a good homemaker. This is fantasy. Ladies, on a date, how hot would you be for a guy who confessed he wasn't going to college and had no other higher ambition than to stay at home and run the kids to soccer practice? This doesn't happen. This isn't meant to demean the choice a woman makes for raising kids or being a housewife, it's meant to illustrate the difference between the feminine and the masculine in this role. Men simply do not have the option. Househusbands rarely aspire to be househusbands and are generally forced by necessity into this role.
 
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