Problem with girlfriend and her facebook

[Boscus]

Did your meds finally kick in? I'm not done with you.

No not yet sir

now p!ssoff tr0ll

 

[May_Day]

Ofcourse she doesn't take him serious...they are only 2 months in and he has relationship closed her...what do you expect?

Doesn't matter how long it is, if she considers it to be exclusive, then she should be taking it seriously. He should see that this is not working out and that she is not into him.

 

[zinc4]

My question is why would any guy fully commit himself to only one woman after seeing her for 2 months? It's like you are actively seeking marriage or something.

 

[Montague_Leach]

I have been in 2 relatioships over 2 years long....and one over 3 they have never cheated despite me even telling one she could see other guys on the side if she wanted too. In my experience, if you don't care what they do, then they won't want to cheat.

Then I was correct that you weren't in a real relationship. You wanted to pimp her out to other guys for sloppy seconds?

Bunch of insecure pussies in this thread..no wonder the majority of posters are getting cheated on.

How is it being insecure by setting strong boundaries with a strong frame from the beginning?

No he shouldn't, he doesnt fvcking own her!

He should be living a life of abundance, stop worrying about other people!!

Then there is no point on having a relationship. So you would want sloppy seconds from your own "girlfriend"?

 

[zinc4]

I don't know how else to try to explain it to these two, so this will be my last attempt.

Monogamy is NOT natural. Neither is getting up and going to work every day. Neither is eating a piece of fruit when you could have chocolate cake. Neither is not ramming into some car that cuts you off on the interstate.

We control our impulses every day, as part of maintaining an ordered and structured society.

It is not unreasonable to ask a woman to control some part of her impulses, nor are there women who won't do it. And like I said, it's more so (to me at least) for the health and pregnancy protections than anything else. Monogamy may not be natural, but it's practical in some circumstances, especially in limited durations.

The reason cordon says you're insecure is that it's obvious that deep down, you are too ashamed of yourself to actually believe that a woman would care about you so much and value you so highly, that she wouldn't go fuk other men. Your "game" is indifference, which works wonders on psychologically damaged women, but doesn't get you very far long-term with a quality woman. They want commitment the same way a man wants sex. You feel yourself unable to attract, or keep a woman on the basis of anything other than sheer apathy. Apathy doesn't build relationships; it just makes a woman willing to fuk you a little longer. Eventually, any woman that is worth a sh!t will leave you unless you can demonstrate substance - which for you, apparently, is too much to ask.

I have also found that people who hate the thought of having children, secretly just hate themselves. I love myself; it's why I want to have children to teach and continue my bloodline.

Personally, I'd suggest therapy, and a healthy dose of self-esteem.

If you can restrain your OWN natural instincts and create value in society, then she can do the same. If she's a Cluster B or drug addict, maybe she can't do it. But there are normal women out there who you will have no problems with, if you are giving her what she needs.

Good luck.

Speaking for myself, I can honestly say you have no clue what you are talking about....you think you are Dr. Phil...kind of funny really...unfortunately, I can't stay satisfied with one person for too long, so indifference comes naturally for me..and yes there is a definite line to cross with a high quality woman...but its not too difficult to find a balance....I just don't believe in having to set boundaries in the first place...it should be unspoken..you can't cage a bird..if she wants to fly away then let her...odds are she won't though if you have any real connection with her in the first place...

 

[BeDJ]

Speaking for myself, I can honestly say you have no clue what you are talking about....you think you are Dr. Phil...kind of funny really...unfortunately, I can't stay satisfied with one person for too long, so indifference comes naturally for me..and yes there is a definite line to cross with a high quality woman...but its not too difficult to find a balance....I just don't believe in having to set boundaries in the first place...it should be unspoken..you can't cage a bird..if she wants to fly away then let her...odds are she won't though if you have any real connection with her in the first place...

Please don't give anymore advice. You are ALL over the place. Keep your BS to yourself.

Indifference does not come naturally.

 

[zinc4]

Please don't give anymore advice. You are ALL over the place. Keep your BS to yourself.

Indifference does not come naturally.

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[zinc4]

Please don't give anymore advice. You are ALL over the place. Keep your BS to yourself.

Indifference does not come naturally.

Get off of my di%k already you envious little prick.......you either develop indifference or you don't...and it does come naturally at least to me from hardships and experiences...just because the gap between me and you is too big for you to acknowledge or fathom doesn't give you the right to troll my posts and threads.....i speak the truth and you are always trolling me...you are a typical keyboard jockey......there is nothing worse than a douchebag who deems themselves way smarter than they are and tries to relentlessly compete with others...you reek of an inferiority complex...

 

[49au]

zinc4,

You are, honestly, an idiot.

Children have to be trained, and so do women (though some can't be, again, just as with children). You're just too weak to do it. You have no personal boundaries. You'd probably let another guy pound you in the ass and pretend you were ok with it, because sex is "natural."

As far as getting "bored" with women, welcome to the club. I'm probably worse than you. That's not an excuse to be half a man.

 

[zinc4]

zinc4,

You are, honestly, an idiot.

Children have to be trained, and so do women (though some can't be, again, just as with children). You're just too weak to do it. You have no personal boundaries. You'd probably let another guy pound you in the ass and pretend you were ok with it, because sex is "natural."

As far as getting "bored" with women, welcome to the club. I'm probably worse than you. That's not an excuse to be half a man.

Well, at least you are being honest......insert gay simile here

I don't train women because i don't need to...and it aint worth my effort....i either walk a way or i let them chase....she can either follow me or get lost....and like i said...like BDJ, the gap between me and you is big...

I just saw you are 28 and BDJ is only 25.....no wonder the gap is so big...i was a completely different person a few years ago myself......any woman who needs to be controlled or told what to do aint worth having in the first place...i would advise you both to work a lot on your inner game.....there is a big difference in getting women and having them consistently falling head over heels in love with you...

 

[TheException]

I don't train women because i don't need to...and it aint worth my effort....i either walk a way or i let them chase....she can either follow me or get lost.

.I just don't believe in having to set boundaries in the first place...it should be unspoken..you can't cage a bird..if she wants to fly away then let her...odds are she won't though if you have any real connection with her in the first place...

Dont know why Zinc is catching flak here. He's absolutely right. I do not have the same views on zinc as it comes in monogomy but none the less the principles bolded above are absolute. They apply to women no matter the circumstance. Either your "dislike" for zinc has clearly clouded your judgement or your belief system about women in simply incorrect(train them? cage them? restrict them? own them? possess them? wtf.)

 

[49au]

Maybe I haven't communicated what I mean by "training" women.

I am not talking about chaining her to the bed, and cutting her off from all her friends. Weak men do that too, it's just the other end of the insecurity spectrum from zinc4.

If I'm seeing a girl, and I like her, I play by extremely relaxed rules until she starts asking for commitment or clearly thinks we're exclusive. When that happens, I tighten my expectations a little bit.

Next level: If she's my girlfriend for a while, I take her out in public, take her on trips, I introduce her as my girlfriend, etc., she needs to understand that her behavior reflects upon me in front of people I value. Then I tighten my expectations even more.

Even among the women I've gone to this level with:

I've never "forbidden" any woman, even my very few LTRs, to talk to any specific guy.

I don't care about her emotional tampons that she texts and whines to and seeks attention from.

I don't ask them who they're texting or talking to.

When guys comment on their Facebook, I say nothing to her unless she reciprocates. She can't control men's advances, but she can control her response.

If she wants a "girl's night", I'm happy to give it to her. I'd rather go play poker, have a quiet drink with friends, or just lay around than go to a club every weekend. If she posts slutty photos on FB of her hanging all over random guys though, we're done. It's not the partying, it's just the disrespect that turns me off.

I don't ever want a b!tch living with me unless we're married. Even in my very few serious LTRs, the most I wanted to see them was 3x a week, and I preferred 2x.

I even let LTRs talk to other guys in clubs or while we're out, as long as there isn't blatant flirting and especially physical contact, that she's reciprocating. It's not the flirting that offends me; again, it's her lack of respect. Instant dismissal.

And of course, any kind of confirmed physical cheating is instant dismissal.

And your woman needs to understand that. It's polarizing. She needs to understand she's yours, or she's not. You won't accept less from her. As men, it's in our nature to conquer. It's our greatest satisfaction and it plays out in sex, business, everything. Leading to one of my favorite quotes - "The true man wants two things: danger and play. For that reason he wants woman, as the most dangerous plaything." I get a huge thrill from putting a woman into their natural submissive state, where they fall hard for you. That is way harder to establish and maintain than merely getting a girl into bed. (Then guys like zinc will gloat about how many women they've fuked and left, which is funny because that's really not the hard part.)

Guys who are afraid to set boundaries will find that women walk all over them. People treat you how you let them treat you, and how you expect them to treat you.

We all know the basic PUA tenet that when a girl you just met says "buy me a drink", you say no. This is her testing you for weakness. Women will also test you for weakness throughout an LTR. This does not mean they want you to be weak. It means she wants the opposite. She wants you to have some balls and self-respect. I think it was Atom Smasher who said in another thread that young girls he's dated have craved boundaries. They want to find a man that values himself so much that he fully expects loyalty from her.

And do you have any idea what would happen to society if children were raised in this same way? No boundaries or instructions because we "shouldn't have to, children should love their parents." Give me a break.

 

[TheException]

you don't need to spoon feed women. They know.

This^

You have boundaries but you dont proclaim them to the woman. Women atleast have a general understanding of what constitutes cheating. If she crosses your boundaries, break up with her. You dont need to explain or scold her of the "why". She crosses a line, next. In fairness though, this is what screening is for, prior to a LTR. This is why the prize mentality is key....you looking for a match and someone who is a positive influence on you. Not someone who you have to train to be that way.

 

[zinc4]

Maybe I haven't communicated what I mean by "training" women.

I am not talking about chaining her to the bed, and cutting her off from all her friends. Weak men do that too, it's just the other end of the insecurity spectrum from zinc4.

If I'm seeing a girl, and I like her, I play by extremely relaxed rules until she starts asking for commitment or clearly thinks we're exclusive. When that happens, I tighten my expectations a little bit.

Next level: If she's my girlfriend for a while, I take her out in public, take her on trips, I introduce her as my girlfriend, etc., she needs to understand that her behavior reflects upon me in front of people I value. Then I tighten my expectations even more.

Even among the women I've gone to this level with:

I've never "forbidden" any woman, even my very few LTRs, to talk to any specific guy.

I don't care about her emotional tampons that she texts and whines to and seeks attention from.

I don't ask them who they're texting or talking to.

When guys comment on their Facebook, I say nothing to her unless she reciprocates. She can't control men's advances, but she can control her response.

If she wants a "girl's night", I'm happy to give it to her. I'd rather go play poker, have a quiet drink with friends, or just lay around than go to a club every weekend. If she posts slutty photos on FB of her hanging all over random guys though, we're done. It's not the partying, it's just the disrespect that turns me off.

I don't ever want a b!tch living with me unless we're married. Even in my very few serious LTRs, the most I wanted to see them was 3x a week, and I preferred 2x.

I even let LTRs talk to other guys in clubs or while we're out, as long as there isn't blatant flirting and especially physical contact, that she's reciprocating. It's not the flirting that offends me; again, it's her lack of respect. Instant dismissal.

And of course, any kind of confirmed physical cheating is instant dismissal.

And your woman needs to understand that. It's polarizing. She needs to understand she's yours, or she's not. You won't accept less from her. As men, it's in our nature to conquer. It's our greatest satisfaction and it plays out in sex, business, everything. Leading to one of my favorite quotes - "The true man wants two things: danger and play. For that reason he wants woman, as the most dangerous plaything." I get a huge thrill from putting a woman into their natural submissive state, where they fall hard for you. That is way harder to establish and maintain than merely getting a girl into bed. (Then guys like zinc will gloat about how many women they've fuked and left, which is funny because that's really not the hard part.)

Guys who are afraid to set boundaries will find that women walk all over them. People treat you how you let them treat you, and how you expect them to treat you.

We all know the basic PUA tenet that when a girl you just met says "buy me a drink", you say no. This is her testing you for weakness. Women will also test you for weakness throughout an LTR. This does not mean they want you to be weak. It means she wants the opposite. She wants you to have some balls and self-respect. I think it was Atom Smasher who said in another thread that young girls he's dated have craved boundaries. They want to find a man that values himself so much that he fully expects loyalty from her.

And do you have any idea what would happen to society if children were raised in this same way? No boundaries or instructions because we "shouldn't have to, children should love their parents." Give me a break.

You seem like you are very insecure.

 

[casaanova]

You're the rebound. Hopefully you're at least getting laid from it. If you're not, break up today