problem dont get eyed down at nightclubs????

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sportf190

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hey guys i am 18 years old and think im pretty good looking... i am a waitor and get many girls looks thorugh work and usually at the beach and such... but for some reason i cant get eyed down when dressed up at night clubs.. any one else expericance this or no the problem???
 

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No, I'm not a "waitor" nor have I ever experienced this problem.
 

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You are probably too young looking.

And ignore "tom juan", hes just bitter from not getting any play in years.
 

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Lol. Ok then, Mr. 3 posts.
 
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thats true the young thing may kill me and makes sense thanks for that one any other ideas
 

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actually,

i encounter the very same issue - except i don't get it ANYWHERE.

i'm pretty certain you look far better than i do but i don't think i'm quasimodo. also end up dressing smartly, nice shoes, groomed, fit... but girls never look.

i live in l.a. if that makes a difference.

yah, if anyone has any insight into this particular issue, i'd be really interested in thoughts as well.

delta
 

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There is a fundamental difference between thinking you are dressing well, and actually dressing well.

Thinking you are dressing well is when you look in the mirror and say "damn I look good". Although I endorse this as a great sign of having high self esteem and confidence which I find to be very important, it really is only half of the equation.

Actually dressing well/looking good is when you go out, and multiple people will compliment you on it. It is when you go out to a party with friends, and your female friends are quick to mention how good you look.

Get it?

--Mission
 

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well, as for me, at most parties, i'm one of the best dressed guys in the place. and i get complimented for my duds at work all the time.

and beyond personal satisfaction upon evaluation and co-worker validation, i have a pretty keen aesthetic eye in general and it's getting honed constantly from gq, esquire even men's health.

never used to be into clothes but when i got into this pua kick, it's one of the areas that i studied with most interest. my strategy in learning ANY new subjects involves several months of magazine reading and 3 books from 3 different authors - and i did that.

must be a closet metro....

unfortunatelly, doesn't seem to be helping.

delta
 
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thats true i think i focus too much on getting girls to look and all that... and pay to much attention to that and they probaley notice that.. that makes sense also.. its just i always have trouble at night clubs getting looks i dont know why i wud think girls are out there to look like us men instead of places like the mall, beach etc...
 

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I think I know where you're coming from. Except here's my deal.

I get looks everywhere where there isn't a crowd. That's too say, on the street, buses, vacation (hotels, etc), church (yea I know I'm taking away attention from Jesus), basically anywhere where people aren't like in huge groups with each other. What does end up happening is that when I'm with my sister or cousin, or another female (I love pivots), I get a TON of looks from guys (Keep in mind though there are cultural difference, I'm black and alot of black guys just like to grill down), and GIRLS. When it doesn't work is if I'm just walking alone through an area thats crowded (foot ball games, some parties, etc), it's like its instantly turned off. I know its not that I'm ugly (not to sound arrogant, but a ton of girls have told my sister that I'm sexy, fine, whatever), and its not that I protrude the wrong body language, i think it's just that where you don't have social proof alot, people are busy living their lives. Think abuot it, girls might pay attention with you because you are with a girl, whether you are ugly or not, they just wanna see how good the girl you are with looks, then how good YOU look. I think that's really key, that if its a big place, you are just another face in the crowd, no matter how good you look if you have no social proof, high value friends, whatever. But when I'm with alot of friends and we are all dressed good, smell good, and we all are prettty attractive, then things become easier.

So I think it might just be a social proof thing really. I mean just make a test like I do, go outside onto a street and while you are walking see how many women notice you, if its anything like my test turns out, a ton will look, its just that when they are with their friends, ***** shields up, whatever, that your just another person, they don't think you are ugly, but don't KNOW that you're attractive until you stand out.

Just my experience
 

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Mission said:
There is a fundamental difference between thinking you are dressing well, and actually dressing well.

Thinking you are dressing well is when you look in the mirror and say "damn I look good". Although I endorse this as a great sign of having high self esteem and confidence which I find to be very important, it really is only half of the equation.

Actually dressing well/looking good is when you go out, and multiple people will compliment you on it. It is when you go out to a party with friends, and your female friends are quick to mention how good you look.

Get it?

--Mission
yeah, that, and when the girls you know ask YOU for style advice, like what would go with what...

...that's when i knew i dress well.
 
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yah that sounds real true thanks alot man... i always thought at nightclubs the girls would look for hot guys and i thought it would be easier but i guess social proof and etc. is alot more important at those places.. thanks alot for clearing that up i thoguth my question was a bad one and no one would care
 

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hmmmm... social proof eh?

good theory. thanks.

delta
 

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No problem man, no question is stupid (unless you just are trying to be stupid).

You'll learn alot of **** just from experience, trust me.
 
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