pretty pissed off right now. ( my rant bare with me)

[Packers2010]

there's one thing in the game right now i can't get over.

the amount of **** i have to go threw. all i want to do is ****. thats it. just fook!

i got a number off pof today and texted this afternoon. got 4 messages in after her to come out. she was busy. ( this one i forgive just known her. she did say she would another time but game no solid so.)

the other girl i been trying on pushed me to right this post.

i texted her to come out as well. pretty much on a whim. though, my not just throw it out there.

i next her like say at 5. for 7. got a message back at 8.45. telling me she went out and had some beers watch the Christmas lights and is going to bed.

i'm just done with this back and forth bull****! I JUST WANT TO **** FOR GOD DAM SAKE!

i'm going out of my mind here. when did it become so hard to even get a ****ing lay by some HB4? i mean god dam.

sorry. i forgot i have to be in the gym 6 hours a day, make 250k a year and have gave over ****ing 9000. then i might get a kiss on the cheek huh?

****! i am trying here ok! why is it so ****ing difficult! i'm so ****ing angry at MY SELF because i know i can do better. but no! i sit there with this ****ing pain in my chest. this ****ty AA and i chode out and do nothing! WHY!!!!!!!!!

 

[BeDJ]

Women do not know what they want, every encounter is a phenomenological experience - it may never happen again.

The most important part of the game is to recognize her interest level. This is why so many guys fail, their ego gets in the way. They reassure themselves that a certain women has interest, even if it isn't the case to protect their ego from rejection. Since women themselves do not know what they want, they can string you along, sometimes feigning interest.

You have to play the numbers game in order to weed out the interested women. Pursuing interested women without the numbers game will make you eager/desperate (putting all your eggs in one basket.) In contrast, playing the numbers game without weeding out the interested ones will have you wasting your time going after the wrong women.

This site can give you a head start on getting women, but you need experience. Do not take rejection as failure, rather a lesson to learn from. The more real world lesson you accumulate, the more successful you will be with women.

 

[Packers2010]

thanks for replying man. i just really needed to vent. i got pissed off yesterday over nothing.

i'm trying to rush things. it's not how it's going to go. i can't do that. i have to stick to it a trudge threw the trenches there no other way.

i just have to suck it up a realize I'm not going to get girls straight up. i need to fail like 1000 times before i am going to get this **** down. so now i just have to take it and now i am learning that later i will get all the sex i want!

 

[btownbuck2012]

It's ok to vent, in fact it's healthy. Everyone needs to get stuff off their chest.

Also, how you're feeling is a natural reaction to the way things are today. Even ugly girls have guys coming at them. They have their pick of the litter and thanks to things like facebook and twitter they also think they're movie stars. This causes them to act VERY obnoxious, rude, and immature. Is every woman/girl on the face of the earth like this? Well, no. But A-lot are. ESPECIALLY in our country.

So what can you do? Well, you can consider ****ing a prostitute. Some might call that "AFC" to pay for it, but you're always going to pay for it. Time spent in the gym, time spent approaching, etc, etc is all time spent trying to get laid. If you're that pent up and horny just drop some cash and f-ck a hooker. The only flaw in that idea is of course maybe catching some std's. But whatever, it's up to you.

ALSO, I would really recommend focusing on yourself. I know that is said over and over again on this website but it's the truth. If you're younger focus on getting a degree of some type. If you're out of shape try to fix your diet and live a healthier lifestyle. Do this for yourself, to make yourself feel better. Think about what YOU really want to do with YOURSELF . You know that feeling you get when you "pull" a number from some chick on the street. That's peanuts compared to the rewarding feeling you get when following your life's ambitions and finding little chunks of success along the way.

Women aren't the end all be all. They really aren't. It's going to be hard to break away from that mindset at first because it's brainwashed into all of us growing up. I mean I can't even watch a damn college basketball game all the way through without getting bombarded with Zale's and K jewlers ads. Some of them are down right pathetic.

But try to look at the bigger picture in life. You're a man. You have no expiration date. You can do whatever you want with yourself in this life. You may have to work very hard for what you achieve and may fail many times before you get to where you're going. HOWEVER, once you get there you will see it was well worth it. I know right now you think you need a girl. You don't need anyone man. Social interaction and sex are healthy parts of our existence but the extent to which our society places importance on them is ridiculous.

I'm kind of rambling, if I think of more I'll come back and edit this post. It's obvious you're trying packers2010. I read a-lot of what you write on here, so just hang in there, and....consider getting a hooker, lol

 

[Mike32ct]

I can't give you pof advice because online isn't my specialty.

But as for in person game, I can't overemphasize the importance of being a sniper. The PUAs teach you to be an approach machine, but in my experience, it's horribly inefficient.

I did lots of approaches. Early on, a buddy and I even did the "Money Game" to force each other to approach. (This is where you give your buddy x dollars and you commit to doing y approaches that night. After each approach, he returns x/y dollars to you. If you don't approach at all, he keeps it.)

Finally, after lots of approaches, I said F this sh$t. I left my wing and went to sarge in the club alone. I saw this group of girls and my gut just told me to open them so I could meet this blonde. I opened. Her and I talked and made out like 10 mins later. I number closed her. She texted me a few nights later...

HB: do you want to go to the beach?
Mike: it's 9:30 at night.
HB: do you WANT TO GO TO the beach?
Mike: <Here's where Mike learns to not be stupid lol>

Anyway, to make a long story short, the "sniper method" was born. The most successful nights I ever had was when I had a good gut feeling about a female before I approached.

So please stop thinking in terms chode this or that, or number of approaches, or eye contact, or her HB number (looks) rating, or approach anxiety. Relax. Enjoy your drink. Look around the room. Which girl FEELS like she would be receptive to you?

That girl is the sniper's target.

(Understand that plenty of nights, you won't have that feeling about anyone.)

 

[Boilermaker]

Although taking sniper's approach too seriously would lead one back to the old days,

I definitely agree with increasing the success rate with smaller number of women.

You see these "filter them", "find the ones who are interested", "screen them and next them" tips from the so-called experts but they never tell you where to find all these girls, let alone how to date them.

I promise I'll be the most strict guy when it comes to chick criteria if somebody tells me how to get a new match every day without looking like an idiot in clubs, or like a creep in public parks.

I agree that Game isn't doing 50 approaches, but then again, it's not doing one approach either.

Generating steady play ( HB's ) is key and nobody seems to have a good idea, other than the late Jophil who called us dunderheads for not doing salsa.

RIP, Old Master.

 

[Mike32ct]

I don't mean always one approach per night. But definitely narrow it down.

Women can sense when you are GENUINELY interested and/or curious about them versus when you are just mechanically going through the motions.

Even snipers have rejections and losing streaks, so you might have to increase your numbers sometimes. But the key is to follow your gut.

 

[Packers2010]

i guess i can give it ago. don't really know what else to do at the mo. no one seams to be too interested in me. so.

 

[Boilermaker]

Maybe forgetting about it for a while sounds like a good approach to the problem.

 

[Packers2010]

Maybe forgetting about it for a while sounds like a good approach to the problem.

that's easier said then done sir.


i think it's the stress i been under lately with home and school. i think my body is telling me to get some sex as a stress release. cos right now i'm a dog in a cage. i mean. i'm a nice guy and it's not like i'm asking for much. but the girls just don't want to know me.

i was texting the girl from pof late last night. it got pretty late so i left it till tonight. got no reply. so i guess her intrest level is nill.

it's just pisses me off that ever girl i talk to it's an up hill battle. especially in person. I have really bad posture. i mean NOTICEABLY BAD posture. my shoulders just go forewords. i can't help it. i'm at the chiropractor once every 2 weeks. witch she tells me to go. i do the stretchers she told me to do. and i have yet to internment in my posture. i feel good after i go and i feel like it is working.

i was out at the casino on Saturday just walking around. i would walk past people and i would see them laughing at me. It happened so often i was like. " there must be something on my face or my fly is doe or something" then some guy motioned me over to talk to me and told me. so i go over and he tell me to puff out my chest. ( telling me i have bad posture) nothing against the guy he was cool. we had an epic chat. i love messing with drunks. it's fun pretending your gay. lol. ( self amusing i guess)

i guess i'm just complaining really. i mean. if i was getting some would i even care about this? most likely not. it's just my anger talking. the stress of dealing with all the **** I've been putting up with.

 

[Ringleader41]

I advise acting whiter and bragging about your anglo saxon heritage to them. That will make them wet their panties.

 

[DonGorgon]

.... it's fun pretending your gay. lol. ( self amusing i guess).

^^^that was the saddest scariest pert of your post.. step away from the gay edge please.. too many dudes are slipping into gayness due to frustration with these hos..

Here is what you need to know:

1. these days there is a ho shortage so for every 1 females out willing to mate there are 30 guys chasing her every day..

2. this means competition is extreme and that gives women options and options equal power

3. in the 90s you 9could expect 1 lay for every 7 to 10 approaches but now its 1 per 30 if you are lucky

4. So your best bet is to find 3 good sources for finding women day and night and make sure its the type of women who would find you attractive.. ... go there as often as you can and get as many numbers as you can...

5. dont try to date these women just talk to them then invite them over.. if they like you they will come.. after they come over and F or at least at least make out then you can try to get to know them

6. even when you find 2 or 3 cool hos you will need to keep getting more all the time cause hos these days are extra unstable and flakey and tend to like you today and reject you tomorrow mainly due to the high number of men they have access to..

 

[Masculinity]

With very few exceptions, free online dating sites are the breeding ground for AW's and women with BPD. It is time that we spend more time doing face-to-face approaches. It is a well-known psychological finding that most people do not take meeting people online seriously, both because of the stigma associated with it and because it is almost like a "let's see how many AFC's I can play around with" game.

Don't believe me...google the woman who went out with men she met online only to get money and free, expensive dinners out of them. Success shall not come reality until one faces fears, insecurities and becomes callous to in-your-face rejection.

Keep being money,

-R

 

[backbreaker]

ify ou honestly are clearing 250k a year, seriously bro, take your ass to backpage.com lol and get you some *****. **** why spend time (money) and resources ****ing an HB4 when you can pay 200 bucks to a legit hb7 and get your rocks off. you need to knock the edge off badly. do it more than once


if something happens to me ever again and i am single for a prolonged period of a time i'm paying for it at least once a week. once that sex drought kicks in it's like chickenpox it's damn near impossible to get rid of

simply put, if syou are putting this much effort into it and not getting ANY results, something about you is turning women off. there is a reason no one is buying the product you are trying to sale. why? only you can figure that out.

 

[Packers2010]

^^^that was the saddest scariest pert of your post.. step away from the gay edge please.. too many dudes are slipping into gayness due to frustration with these hos..
.

thanks for the advice. but i ain't going gay. lols

thanks for the advice guys. if i was making 250k i think i would be too busy to get a gf so i would have to pay for it.

right now. i'm like a troll under the bridge close to homeless and broke as ****. and totally desperate for sex!


i think i just need to work on my game. i guess i'm just an chode when it comes to girls

 

[Who Dares Win]

Packers regarding the advices, all the guys above gave you most of what you need as point of view especially Mike32ct which is probably one of the best contributors in this board (going through much sh1t himself he knows).

Now I can just tell you that there is nothing wrong with you as much as there is nothing wrong in being pissed off at the current state of things, we are treated no different than workers during the industrial revolution before unions came into the bigger picture.

We're mistread and most of the times even de-humanized, seeing as nothing less than bulk mass whos purpose is to "make numer" while we're not even acknowledged am men with dignity or feelings.

Its no ****ing mistake to being pissed off about it man, Im feeling the same more often than usual but if can suggest what to do about it, I tell you to do not repress such anger, just let it go and instead use it in the right direction.

Go at the gym and you will be thankfull of being pissed off because it will override any sense of tireness or lazyness, you'll push more and endure more pain since the pain there is the only thing which will take away the pain in your head and soul.

The phisical pain of muscles tearing will take away the pain in your head, and the tought that those actions are making you stronger and better will shut up your ego or need of validation.

I was in a state similar to yours from friday to...to now and my training have been great, added weight and quality everywhere, even waking up in the morning when the alarm goes off its not that hard...Im pissed off, I have no desire to relax some other minutes in the bed.

 

[Masculinity]

Packers: Grey and I are putting together another AA competition in the Spring. You are welcome to participate; and since you're a veteran, we'll step up your challenges a notch so that you get out there. We have all day the frustrating days; I feel your pain, man. Hang in there and don't give up!

 

[Gray The Prince]

Packers: Grey and I are putting together another AA competition in the Spring. You are welcome to participate; and since you're a veteran, we'll step up your challenges a notch so that you get out there. We have all day the frustrating days; I feel your pain, man. Hang in there and don't give up!

I was just thinking about this! Yes, the 3rd annual Anti AA competition will be in February-March area. I highly encourage you to participate Packers. You have to retain what you learn here. Also, don't hang around SS too much. There a lot of solid advice here obviously but there's just as much toxic stuff around here too. Don't let desperation get to you!

 

[Packers2010]

Packers: Grey and I are putting together another AA competition in the Spring. You are welcome to participate; and since you're a veteran, we'll step up your challenges a notch so that you get out there. We have all day the frustrating days; I feel your pain, man. Hang in there and don't give up!

you know i am in! i came 5th last time and i was in wales slumming it out!

this time i am back home and CAN go out. so i should do well

and thank you for the title of veteran. i don't think i am one. though i do like this forum it's people is nice.

 

[Starkwell]

Why are you wasting your time and getting upset with flakey chicks on pof? Those chicks are a waste of time and guys are investing way too much time on there. They jump from one guy to the next. One might have more money and one might have better looks so they will lose interest in one and go for the other.

Try to meet woman offline instead where you can meet better quality women and get dates.