Preparing yourself for a life without a woman by your side.

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After turning 30 and not being anywhere near where i thought i'd be at this point in my life, i'm slowly trying to prepare myself for ending up alone. Given the fact that 50% of all relationships (100% of mine) fail, and that it gets harder to find decent, available women every time, the possibility of a life without a women doesn't seem so unlikely.

One of my problems has been that i've placed too much importance on having a girl. I've taken breakups hard in the past and i've been unable to be as successful with women as i thought i'd be. I have built up recentment and hatred towards women due to excessive rejections and failed attempts to hook up with the women i like. The rejections started to hurt and i'm trying to become indifferent and stop chasing.

Letting go of my original plans and dreams of family life with kids etc. is difficult. Luckily i like my own company, but i sometimes find myself feeling lonely and needy. I hate the neediness and i need to get rid of it.

Preparing to be alone means that i can focus more on other areas in life. I have a good job, own my own apartment and i play sports and work out. Now I'm working out for my health and not to attract girls, which is why i started going to the gym originally. What i really have realised is that you can't count on another person to be there by your side at all times in life. We are born alone and we die alone. We need to be happy just being with ourselves. It's difficult and it kind of feels like giving up, but it also feels liberating.

Have any of you guys ever just accepted that you may never have kids, or may never end up with someone? I will continue to try to date girls, but without any outcome dependance. The focus has to be on me.

 

[sylvester the cat]

After turning 30 and not being anywhere near where i thought i'd be at this point in my life, i'm slowly trying to prepare myself for ending up alone. Given the fact that 50% of all relationships (100% of mine) fail, and that it gets harder to find decent, available women every time, the possibility of a life without a women doesn't seem so unlikely.

One of my problems has been that i've placed too much importance on having a girl. I've taken breakups hard in the past and i've been unable to be as successful with women as i thought i'd be. I have built up recentment and hatred towards women due to excessive rejections and failed attempts to hook up with the women i like. The rejections started to hurt and i'm trying to become indifferent and stop chasing.

Letting go of my original plans and dreams of family life with kids etc. is difficult. Luckily i like my own company, but i sometimes find myself feeling lonely and needy. I hate the neediness and i need to get rid of it.

Preparing to be alone means that i can focus more on other areas in life. I have a good job, own my own apartment and i play sports and work out. Now I'm working out for my health and not to attract girls, which is why i started going to the gym originally. What i really have realised is that you can't count on another person to be there by your side at all times in life. We are born alone and we die alone. We need to be happy just being with ourselves. It's difficult and it kind of feels like giving up, but it also feels liberating.

Have any of you guys ever just accepted that you may never have kids, or may never end up with someone? I will continue to try to date girls, but without any outcome dependance. The focus has to be on me.

absolutely. personally i think that's the best attitude to have. you will be far more at ease with yourself that way which can only be a good thing.

 

[Burroughs]

Look on the bright side you could be this guy http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=195329 :box:

 

[foreverAFC]

"Have any of you guys ever just accepted that you may never have kids, or may never end up with someone? "


yes, and its not the end of the world. most people in life are lonely. even charlie sheen has pay to keep women around. it is what it is. the problem is alot of us are trying to live the way people from many generations ago were living, thats the idea we have imprinted in our minds, while the reality is that life now is really different and people and relationships are different as well. at least if you are pondering this type of thing right now, you are less likely to naively chase some kind of fantasy that you have been told you need to have. from what i hear your life sounds great, imagine if you got some disgusting chick pregnant or trapped in a terrible relationship just cause you wanted some sex or because you were just a bit more lonely than normal one night. focus on yourself and your own hobbies while you can. realizing that your happiness or your emptiness is not going to be magically fulfilled by someone else is a good thing.

 

[FairShake]

I wouldn't give up hope yet. It gets easier after 30. A lot of women smarten up and ditch the b!tch attitude and c0ck-hopping. They've seen it, done it, and are over it.

If you are funny, intelligent, kind, successful, etc you are a catch even if you look like a horse as you get older. It's one of those great things about being a man. We own relationships as we get older almost like they owned them as 20somethings. Our age isn't a liability after all. If anything it's a plus.

Make sure you take your time to pick the right one if you go that route though. Again, you are a hot commodity. A single, non-dysfunctional man in his 30s is rare and the going price is high.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

I wouldn't give up hope yet. It gets easier after 30. A lot of women smarten up and ditch the b!tch attitude and c0ck-hopping. They've seen it, done it, and are over it.

If you are funny, intelligent, kind, successful, etc you are a catch even if you look like a horse as you get older. It's one of those great things about being a man. We own relationships as we get older almost like they owned them as 20somethings. Our age isn't a liability after all. If anything it's a plus.

Make sure you take your time to pick the right one if you go that route though. Again, you are a hot commodity. A single, non-dysfunctional man in his 30s is rare and the going price is high.

The problem is most women have done a lot of c0ck hopping by a certain age, have loads of baggage, kids, and other shizz that I have no interest in adding their crap to my life. (I'm not looking for a virgin or some 'angel' but I'd be damned if I'm going to waste my time with some chick who's been banged by God knows how many dudes. Not that I'd even ask or they'd even bother telling you the truth.) Guess you'd have to see the type of chick she is.

You can go younger (mid to upper twenties) but to just date younger isn't the answer. What happens when friends, family etc...Especially on the chicks side starts planting seeds of doubt etc in her mind and she eventually says F'it and goes back to her age range?

 

[Poonani Maker]

^^ lol, so true, that's why I'm studying and looking abroad. America Really sucks...overpaid b!atches, in cushy jobs not worth their salt, they're haughty and look down on you, when if we were out of this fantasy world upsidedown world here in America we live in, she'd be in No position to live comfortably. Really, what value is being added by these people, from Top to bottom.

So I'm on POF tonight and started fiddling around with my zipcode to hone in on search results returning girls from areas I've worked heavily in, and know All of the people in certain professions (medical, you name it) who work there, I know and can remember all their faces. So I read these profile and she "says" she's a dental assistant, 35 yrs old, pretty good looking, but...I've Never seen her face before Unless she commutes several miles away from where she lives, OR if she was just recently hired as one. I believe that Most women are pathological liars. I've been flaked on Yet Again twice this past weekend. It's Really callousing me even further. To not get a text back or phone call, like she says she'll get back with me on if such and such plans will work and she doesn't. Soooo disrespectful. AND it's not just her, but 100s of women who've done this to me this year alone. I'm pretty fvckin tired of it. Sure, there are interested ones who do make it happen and are reliable, but even those Same fvckin ones will fail you on down the line. They are completely directionless, women. They lie all the muther fvckin time.

 

[Sneevox]

I will continue to try to date girls, but without any outcome dependance. The focus has to be on me.

You are now exactly where you need to be in life for the rest of your life.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

Yes, I will probably never marry or have children. You are not missing out on anything, trust me.

 

[evan12]

Have any of you guys ever just accepted that you may never have kids

I am 29 and NEVER , our main mission in life to pass our genes to next generations and I ll do that in some how , there are some of options :
1- marring a woman ( still looking for woman with morals )
2- impregnating another woman ( if you have money of child support )
3- cuckolding another man by having kid from a married woman ( be ware of the results )
4- getting a Russian or Ukrainian girl as a bride mail (hell yes I wish I can find a real agency )
5- getting Asian girl from China ( I start putting it as one of my options )
6- last option (wont write it, it could be illegal )
if I reached 35 without wife I ll start seriously taking the other options in account , also I ll have at that time enough money to get a Russian woman , she may be come to my money , but who care I want children and a mother to take care of them .

 

[Burroughs]

^^ lol, so true, that's why I'm studying and looking abroad. America Really sucks...overpaid b!atches, in cushy jobs not worth their salt, they're haughty and look down on you, when if we were out of this fantasy world upsidedown world here in America we live in, she'd be in No position to live comfortably. Really, what value is being added by these people, from Top to bottom.

So I'm on POF tonight and started fiddling around with my zipcode to hone in on search results returning girls from areas I've worked heavily in, and know All of the people in certain professions (medical, you name it) who work there, I know and can remember all their faces. So I read these profile and she "says" she's a dental assistant, 35 yrs old, pretty good looking, but...I've Never seen her face before Unless she commutes several miles away from where she lives, OR if she was just recently hired as one. I believe that Most women are pathological liars. I've been flaked on Yet Again twice this past weekend. It's Really callousing me even further. To not get a text back or phone call, like she says she'll get back with me on if such and such plans will work and she doesn't. Soooo disrespectful. AND it's not just her, but 100s of women who've done this to me this year alone. I'm pretty fvckin tired of it. Sure, there are interested ones who do make it happen and are reliable, but even those Same fvckin ones will fail you on down the line. They are completely directionless, women. They lie all the muther fvckin time.

Oh yes indeed

the arrogance of western women in 2012 is through the fvcking roof

because at the end of day despite their many mistakes, the big brother of state and the little brother of media will always prop women up at the expense of men.

this is a situation that will get much much worse

the train of female entitlement is hurtling at full speed and only societal bankruptcy will stop them....

the question is asked where are the good women?

and the answer is they all died before 1960

 

[VladPatton]

I agree. And that is the best attitude you can have to keep your mental sanity.

 

[Kerpal]

I wouldn't give up hope yet. It gets easier after 30. A lot of women smarten up and ditch the b!tch attitude and c0ck-hopping. They've seen it, done it, and are over it.

Why would I want a woman who has ridden a thousand ****s and is only now giving me the time of day because her looks are fading?

If you are funny, intelligent, kind, successful, etc you are a catch even if you look like a horse as you get older. It's one of those great things about being a man. We own relationships as we get older almost like they owned them as 20somethings. Our age isn't a liability after all. If anything it's a plus.

Make sure you take your time to pick the right one if you go that route though. Again, you are a hot commodity. A single, non-dysfunctional man in his 30s is rare and the going price is high.

Is the going price high enough to get a non-insane, attractive, younger woman who hasn't ridden 1,000 ****s and isn't riddled with STDs? Or are we stuck with the ones who are past their primes? I'm 26 and most women my age already look horrible, usually because they get fat after college.

 

[Serg897]

Who needs kids anyway? The planet has too many humans already.

 

[Who Dares Win]

The problem is that there is no solution at least now, once your bigger problem was a guy who was more goodlooking and cool than you who in the end got th girl.

Now the problem is that even that guy is considered as some sort of gadget from women no differently than a i-phone, girls get a pervert pleasure in displaying their power over men with their hormone controlled hamster head in the process.

Sure being high quality, successful and hot as a guy its great but its not a insurance you'll get a same level girl, first because after 25 mostly they are decadent in body and head due to their party past and second because there are so many factors to screw you that you hardly can do anything.

From her fatter friend who doesnt wanna share her with others to that new coworker who is gonna be the flirt of the week till he will lose his appeal in few days you cannot make plans longer than few hours...exactly few hours because not even a date scheduled in the morning is sure to happen in the evening nowadays.

And its not even about girls its more like the setting where modern living happens, from media,technology to culture.

The average girl now has an expiring date which is much shorter than her mother and an attention span which doesnt last longer than few minutes if continuous or few hours if intervalled.

 

[zekko]

After turning 30 and not being anywhere near where i thought i'd be at this point in my life, i'm slowly trying to prepare myself for ending up alone.

You're not some woman who's about to hit the wall. This is speaking very generally, but you shouldn't really even begin to consider settling down until you're 30 (or older). You're at the beginning, but you're acting like you're at the end.

I am 29 and NEVER , our main mission in life to pass our genes to next generations and I ll do that in some how , there are some of options :

If I was younger I would consider sperm donation. That way your genes can live on but you're not financially responsible. I really wish I would have done this when I was still eligible.

It's a shame that men dare not dream of having a family these days, because of the state of marriage today and the legal system. I know a lot of guys still do it, but many of them end up paying a heavy price.

 

[Burroughs]

The problem is that there is no solution at least now, once your bigger problem was a guy who was more goodlooking and cool than you who in the end got th girl.

Now the problem is that even that guy is considered as some sort of gadget from women no differently than a i-phone, girls get a pervert pleasure in displaying their power over men with their hormone controlled hamster head in the process.

Sure being high quality, successful and hot as a guy its great but its not a insurance you'll get a same level girl, first because after 25 mostly they are decadent in body and head due to their party past and second because there are so many factors to screw you that you hardly can do anything.

From her fatter friend who doesnt wanna share her with others to that new coworker who is gonna be the flirt of the week till he will lose his appeal in few days you cannot make plans longer than few hours...exactly few hours because not even a date scheduled in the morning is sure to happen in the evening nowadays.

And its not even about girls its more like the setting where modern living happens, from media,technology to culture.

The average girl now has an expiring date which is much shorter than her mother and an attention span which doesnt last longer than few minutes if continuous or few hours if intervalled.

and if somehow you do find that 'perfect' wife :crackup:

the day she becomes less than perfect she can divorce you and still have a right to your income for a lifetime...thanks to the state

Men have been pathetically slow to grasp this over the last 30 years...we have become economic slaves and because the noose has been adorned with puzzy we have not recognized it as a noose....:box:

And frankly 99% of men don't care...they are looking for that mommy/hore to care for them and fvck them for the rest of their lives while women are free to behave as cold opportunists first fvcking badboys then landing a nice 'nest slave' to care for her while she is obliged to do nothing for him.

 

[Leporello]

Don't despair just yet. It's a big world out there.

A few months ago I was at a party talking to a Filipino businessman who seemed amazed that more Americans and other Westerners weren't leaving the economic crisis to work in other countries. I told him something like 'We don't go somewhere else to have a better life, other people come here for that."

"Well, that's your problem." he said. "The rest of us know that you have to go where the opportunities are."

I have to say I agree. Supply and demand and all that. If what you've got isn't what American women want (or they can get anywhere) then, shyt, go somewhere where you can stand out! Don't make a fool of yourself - I saw a lot of white guys in Asia acting like idiots - but you'll be amazed at the difference in your life and yourself.

 

[SteR]

You're not some woman who's about to hit the wall. This is speaking very generally, but you shouldn't really even begin to consider settling down until you're 30 (or older). You're at the beginning, but you're acting like you're at the end.

My only question about this is where you find the girls after you hit 30. The bar scene is no longer really an option, not that I'd expect to find quality women there but unfortunately it's where 99% of young girls seem to hang out, at least in the UK.

In recent years I've certainly noticed a huge change in how I'm perceived by women (especially the last couple) but the problem is finding the opportunities to meet the young, attractive ones. It seems the success rate is going up but the opportunities are going down...

 

[HalfAddict]

I could not help myself...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqqxJE-MqFo


Smile, **** em.