Post your successful relationships with women with BPD

[xstang77]

This.


Just because you were a pushover and got manipulated doesn't mean she had a mental disorder.

I love all the WEBMD psychologists here. "BPD exists on a spectrum." No it doesn't. Psychiatrists require very specific criteria be reached before they diagnose BPD, given the gravity of the illness and difficulty of treatment. The spectrum you are talking about is for Bipolar disorder which is a seperate mental ailment from BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder).

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/borderline-personality-disorder/index.shtml

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2922353/

There are no high low attributions only:

Bipolar I: Experienced manic episode --
Bipolar II: Individual 'only' has hypomanias opposed to full blown mania --
Cyclothymia: Attributed to a chronic and milder form of symptoms above --


All you bro science guys who have no idea what you're talking about are dangerously spreading misinformation. Got everybody thinking that just because a woman was mean to you she has a personality disorder.


Approximately 1.6% of American population has BPD. That is roughly over 4 million people. Americas population is approximately 321.4 million. 70% of BPDs make an attempt on their lives. 10% are successful. Did your ex try to kill herself? I doubt it.

Wow! It's so hard to find a quality woman but all you seemed adept at finding women with a rare severe mental illness that's often under & misdiagnosed.

Lucky me,out of the 1.6% I personally know 3 professionally diagnosed ones lol.

 

[stovepipe]

Is any relationship with a BPD successful? It always ends with one person being destroyed when emotions were created. All they are really good for is FWB, or using them during the HMP then leaving. They will treat you like a king for a certain amount of time, but when that stops, so do those emtions they had towards you. They'll just stick around after that till they find someone else to manipulate to save her after she dumps you, or you dump them for the constant lies, taking you for granted, disrespecting you, or the utter lack of respect for ones boundaries.

Giving them your heart will always end with you being destroying and emotionally drained. If you go in with no expectations and no emotional attachment, they can be the most fun women out there. I've only dated the one, lasted two years, could have went on longer, but things worked out the way they did. I made so many mistakes from the beginning, biggest one was falling for the isolation trap.
Spent nearly everyday with her within weeks (big mistake). Told me she loved me and gave me keys to her place within the first three weeks. Told her family I was the one she was going to marry on month 3. As a poster above said, things weren't nearly as bad till we signed a lease together.

She triangulated me right off the bat, one being her best male friend whom she worked with. She was the type who thought it was perfectly fine to have that male friend sleep over n get drunk together the one night I didn't she her cause she worked late. A 32 year old women thinks that way when in a committed loving relationship. But if I did something like that, she would have left. Could write a got darn book on my experience. It lasted about two years and in that time, I experienced the best times of my life, the worst times of my life, two abortions and now left in the worst, most depressive state I could have ever imagined on top of her giving me HPV. Towards the last 6 months she was hiding her coke and alcohol addiction from me. I'm more than sure she cheated, but never found solid proof. Her thought process was that of a child, her impulsive behavior was beyond draining. Forget about respecting ones boundaries, she gave zero phuks most of the time. Always played the victim, lied more than anyone I ever met, tried to justify those lies, manipulated, gaslit. Hell, I had proof of crap she and she still tried to deny and say it was a joke.

She bought me tons of gifts, treated me like a king, did some of the most sweet things for me, had me really believing I was the love of her by asking me to marry her 100 times. Deep down I really thought she was capable, but just needed a real strong man to call her out on her BS every single time. Most likely she would have leave anyways, as they need to control the relationship. She once yelled at me saying "you will not control me". There was one instance I remember during the last couple months that me realize this girl just isn't capable of a healthy emotional attachment nor true love. That all the crap she spewed was nothing more than lies. Let me stop here, as I can go on for hrs.

 

[Infern0]

Is any relationship with a BPD successful? It always ends with one person being destroyed when emotions were created. All they are really good for is FWB, or using them during the HMP then leaving. They will treat you like a king for a certain amount of time, but when that stops, so do those emtions they had towards you. They'll just stick around after that till they find someone else to manipulate to save her after she dumps you, or you dump them for the constant lies, taking you for granted, disrespecting you, or the utter lack of respect for ones boundaries.

Giving them your heart will always end with you being destroying and emotionally drained. If you go in with no expectations and no emotional attachment, they can be the most fun women out there. I've only dated the one, lasted two years, could have went on longer, but things worked out the way they did. I made so many mistakes from the beginning, biggest one was falling for the isolation trap.
Spent nearly everyday with her within weeks (big mistake). Told me she loved me and gave me keys to her place within the first three weeks. Told her family I was the one she was going to marry on month 3. As a poster above said, things weren't nearly as bad till we signed a lease together.

She triangulated me right off the bat, one being her best male friend whom she worked with. She was the type who thought it was perfectly fine to have that male friend sleep over n get drunk together the one night I didn't she her cause she worked late. A 32 year old women thinks that way when in a committed loving relationship. But if I did something like that, she would have left. Could write a got darn book on my experience. It lasted about two years and in that time, I experienced the best times of my life, the worst times of my life, two abortions and now left in the worst, most depressive state I could have ever imagined on top of her giving me HPV. Towards the last 6 months she was hiding her coke and alcohol addiction from me. I'm more than sure she cheated, but never found solid proof. Her thought process was that of a child, her impulsive behavior was beyond draining. Forget about respecting ones boundaries, she gave zero phuks most of the time. Always played the victim, lied more than anyone I ever met, tried to justify those lies, manipulated, gaslit. Hell, I had proof of crap she and she still tried to deny and say it was a joke.

She bought me tons of gifts, treated me like a king, did some of the most sweet things for me, had me really believing I was the love of her by asking me to marry her 100 times. Deep down I really thought she was capable, but just needed a real strong man to call her out on her BS every single time. Most likely she would have leave anyways, as they need to control the relationship. She once yelled at me saying "you will not control me". There was one instance I remember during the last couple months that me realize this girl just isn't capable of a healthy emotional attachment nor true love. That all the crap she spewed was nothing more than lies. Let me stop here, as I can go on for hrs.

I can relate. The control thing is common amongst all of them mine used to say "i have to be in control". In a more honest moment she told me it stems from childhood sexual abuse she went through so she needs to control everything and everyone in her life.

There IS another side to these stories and its not pleasent. That is why moving on and forgiving (if not forgetting) is best

 

[SadoMasochrist]

Thread is DELIVERING

 

[SmooveMooves]

BPD is a disorder that isn't easily diagnosed. There are signs. Previous work in the sex industry? I think over 60% of women who work or have worked in the adult entertainment industry have BPD. Neil's has. My ex has. Bisexual? Another indication. My ex was bi. Idk about Neil's. There's a lot of signs to list that would apply to my ex, but yeah, I do agree that who knows how often the girl is just BPD or just a b1tch in a majority of cases here.

False.

There are no documented studies of 60% of women in the sex industry having BPD.

The 60% statistic you're talking about came from a Roosh forum that says 60% of sex workers have been sexually abused.

Pornstars are actually likely to report having a higher self esteem then on average. They are also no more likely to have had been sexually abused.(Griffith, Mitchell, Hart, Adams, & Gu, 2012)

This is the problem with BPD bro science in the manosphere. You guys are talking completely out of your asses and looking absolutely batshít crazy.

 

[randalljohnson]

Well good to know mine was HB9 in college according to your ratings, but whatever.

Anyways... whooo boy. You're in for a really rough time, this woman is going to wreck you.

I'd HIGHLY recommend you keylog this woman. HB9 with no facebook..... that *she wants you to see.*

Anyways, GLHF. No one cares about a 7 month relationship. It doesn't count.

What's wrong with 7 months?

 

[stovepipe]

I can relate. The control thing is common amongst all of them mine used to say "i have to be in control". In a more honest moment she told me it stems from childhood sexual abuse she went through so she needs to control everything and everyone in her life.

There IS another side to these stories and its not pleasent. That is why moving on and forgiving (if not forgetting) is best

I could never in two years get her to truly open up. The few times I tried, she would immediately change the subject. The one time I grabbed her and said "tell me what is wrong, let me in". All she said was "I wasn't love as a child ok", then stormed off like an angry child. She did admit she was broken, that she needed help and medication. She used drugs and alcohol to cope with her illness. She once said she would never cheat on me because she is broken and I believed due to her spending 95% of her time with me and asking me to marry her. I was a fool to believe that when she cheated on her ex with me and I suspect she did cheat on me. These women live for constant attention and ego boosting. They're very sexual, get bored fast and are unable to form a healthy emotional attachment.

Her parents divorced at age 5, mom was a ho, mom arrested when she was 7, dad had to come take custody, left her home alone, neglected her, used her as pawn at his parties by making her dress up in pageant outfits and forcing her to sing in front of his drunk friends, she started doing drugs and having sex at a young age, slept with her teacher at 15, 4 other moms, dad remarried 5 times, mom and dad both cheated, dad was a classic narcissist military azzhole.

What's wrong with 7 months?

7 months ain't really chit

 

[SadoMasochrist]

What's wrong with 7 months?

Depends on the DJ whether the hooks are in yet. I mean you're still WAY in the HM period and tons of chemicals are blinding both of you.

Just waiting for anyone that's lived with one, hads kids, or married one to say "she's great."

Protip, haven't found anything yet on the entire internet

Go ahead, find me the multi year, marriage or family post about a woman with BPD who wasn't a nightmare. Drop a link in here.

 

[SadoMasochrist]

Oh man you deleted your reply before I got a chance.

"Could it be that love conquers BPD?"

LOL you are going to get WRECKED buddy.

Anyways. Read up on the BPD threads, look for ONE, just ONE, person that isn't saying "gtfo." I asked before if you're plating this girl and you wouldn't comment. You're in love with this girl and you're going to get destroyed.

 

[bigneil]

Depends on the DJ whether the hooks are in yet. I mean you're still WAY in the HM period and tons of chemicals are blinding both of you.

Just waiting for anyone that's lived with one, hads kids, or married one to say "she's great."

Protip, haven't found anything yet on the entire internet

Go ahead, find me the multi year, marriage or family post about a woman with BPD who wasn't a nightmare. Drop a link in here.

Sorry, you don't get to set a minimum one year period before you open your eyes and observe reality. The truth is, once a relationship goes past 6 months you remember that person forever. It's one of the best relationships I've had.

Note that when a girl is 21, 7 months is 16% of her adult life. Also, the relationship is going strong at 7 months, it didn't end at 7 months. We've been through a few rocky times that tested us. She is still a baby though at 21 and needs time to grow up.

Regarding your doomsayer loser forecast, those men married the wrong women and called it BPD. No, it's low interest level.

Anyhow, I don't believe she has BPD but if she does I just proved it: women with BPD are actually awesome if they love you. Guys, blame yourselves for how those women treated you.

 

[bigneil]

LOL you are going to get WRECKED buddy.

Tell me you didn't you just laugh out loud like a 13 year old girl.

It's too late. I already had an awesome relationship with a gorgeous woman who I love. As George Gershwin said "Oh no, you can't take that away from me!". How much love and affection do you think I needed before I chalked it up as a worthwhile venture? Note I turned down 5 other girls who love me for her. The worst she can do is make me stop giving.

 

[SadoMasochrist]

Tell me you didn't you just laugh out loud like a 13 year old girl.​

Oh I absolutely did. Because there's lots of guys who have spent a long time, and plenty of effort trying to figure out what went wrong when she goes for her kill shot. Which, for you, is going to be easy. Definitely going to follow up on your posts, but you're too NPD to actually post about it I suspect. You think you're the ****, when in reality, all the other guys already know this girl makes the word promiscuous seemingly docile compared to who she is.

You clearly do not understand literally anything about BPD. I mean you realize this woman doesn't actually exist right? She has no internalized identity or innate coping mechanisms.

 

[bigneil]

I have documented the good and bad.

And regarding upgrading your girl to HB9 based on my standards, does that mean you will publish her photo on PhotoFeeler and prove it? I proved I'm the sh!t, with formal peer reviewed statistics.

 

[stovepipe]

Sorry, you don't get to set a minimum one year period before you open your eyes and observe reality. The truth is, once a relationship goes past 6 months you remember that person forever. It's one of the best relationships I've had.

Note that when a girl is 21, 7 months is 16% of her adult life. Also, the relationship is going strong at 7 months, it didn't end at 7 months. We've been through a few rocky times that tested us. She is still a baby though at 21 and needs time to grow up.

Anyhow, I don't believe she has BPD but if she does I just proved it: women with BPD are actually awesome if they love you. Guys, blame yourselves for how those women treated you.

There love is a FANTASY type, not the type of love a normal women feel. My BPD ex loved the chit out of me and did things for me I only dreamed of. But it doesn't last is what the experienced people are trying to tell you. It's short lived man, been there, done that. Sado knows what he is talking about, but you insist on trying to prove him wrong when the statistics don't lie.

My ex would tell me how I was the love of the life, I was different from the rest, her soulmate, her life partner, ask me to marry her...Then look me straight in the eyes and lie to me about something I knew the truth of without even flinching. Before she moved she started crying when we were showering saying "I messed this all up didn't I"? This is coming from a 32 year old women who works hard as hell, never was late, pays her bills on time.

Their brain never had the chance to emotionally mature as a child. She was never taught to love, doesn't know true love, nor knows how to have a healthy emotional attachment. They are basically children in adult bodies who blame everyone else for their bad luck.

Time and time again I thought I was different, that she could commit and be honest and trust worthy. One day she would say "I don't hang out with my male friends anymore in order to not disrespect you", without me even asking about them. Then the following week catch her lying about working late only for her to be at work getting chit faced with men. While she stayed with me till the very end before she moved, she wanted me to buy a place and move there the following month. All that was BS just keep her claws in me. She ended up throwing me (love of her life lol) away like a piece of trash like all the other guys before me.

It all boils down to you, how hard you try to please her, how good you are in the sack, how hard you try to make her happy. The more of all that you do for her, the longer she will keep you around, but also mess around behind your back, lie, manipulate, ect in the process. They trick you into thinking they are capible of true love when their past just keeps repeating itself over and over again. They destroy everything good in their life.

 

[SadoMasochrist]

It's not even "fantasy." It's fearful-avoidant. And on top of that, they disassociate. Because they're constantly "on the borderline between neurotic and psychotic."

 

[bigneil]

She has never acted neurotic or psychotic in the 16 months I've known her. Meanwhile, most hot 21 year old women do.

The 7 months I've dated her coincided with the best 7 months of my career, a time when I held two contracts the entire time. I also hired a physical trainer 5 months ago. Thus, this has been the best year of my life. I've truly been blessed, and I'm pushing 50 now so this kind of success was a huge deal in my life.

I've also had dozens of other women at my disposal this year, but they don't compare. I could get 5 girls to text in the next 5 minutes if I wrote to them, and they would all use the word "love". But I'm literally bored to tears by them. That's the part the naysayers don't get. You don't get a hot girl in a vacuum. I chose her out of dozens of women who were available to me. Every girl I know tries to steal me from her.

From what I've seen, she's growing up into a fine young lady.

There is no doubt I'll be sad if I should lose her. BPD or not, there is no guarantee when you are in love. Love has a nasty habit of disappearing overnight. If she finds better she will take it. All I can do is try to be her best option.

 

[SadoMasochrist]

You don't even know what the term neurotic means. If she's not, she's not a borderline, period. You can't be a borderline without being neurotic. Are you green enough that you misinterpreted bipolar with BPD?

Also, I'm assuming you're an "outsider" in terms of her social circle.

By the way, your ego is obviously extremely fragile. You could be here to learn, but instead you're defensive.

And defensiveness is a primitive reaction to subconscious truth. You think you've outsmarted the SMP, but instead, you're just trading SMV for RMV=0. If that's fine, so be it.

But you've already shown that's not the case. You're in love with a person that doesn't even exist.

 

[bigneil]

You don't even know what the term neurotic means. If she's not, she's not a borderline, period. You can't be a borderline without being neurotic. Are you green enough that you misinterpreted bipolar with BPD?

Also, I'm assuming you're an "outsider" in terms of her social circle.

She's not neurotic. She just said (in our 5th month of dating) she was diagnosed with BPD and I immediately said "You do NOT have BPD". But people here use that as the reason to say "I'm sure glad I'm not dating her!" She's remarkably consistent month over month.

Regarding social circles, her best friend braids her hair for our dates and she said they are always talking about me. She just sent a photo of them together. Since she lives 25 miles away and I don't do group dates, I haven't met her yet. She met my family last month and last week she sent me a photo of her with her dad and asked my opinion of him. I think she wants me to meet him soon. He's a multimillionaire. I don't think they weren't getting along when I first met her but I may have helped bring her closer to him. She adores her father, which is one of the strongest qualities a woman can have.

 

[SadoMasochrist]

She's not neurotic. She just said (in our 5th month of dating) she was diagnosed with BPD and I immediately said "You do NOT have BPD". But people here use that as the reason to say "I'm sure glad I'm not dating her!" She's remarkably consistent month over month.

Regarding social circles, her best friend braids her hair for our dates and she said they are always talking about me. She just sent a photo of them together. She met my family last month and last week she sent me a photo of her with her dad and asked my opinion of him. I think she wants me to meet him soon. He's a multimillionaire. I don't think they weren't getting along when I first met her but I may have helped bring her closer to him. She adores her father, which is one of the strongest qualities a woman can have.

Well then ask her what she told her psych. Because they do not just hand out BPD diagnosis. In fact, many are hesitant to give it as a diagnosis to people who clearly meet the diagnostic criteria because it is basically impossible to treat, so they feel as though they are handing them a sort of mental death sentence. Suffice to say, if someone gave her that, it's likely they gave them a good reason.

Do you understand why no one is on your side yet?

You realize all of us have had our BPD cherries popped right? We all have the same story in varying degrees of severity with slightly modified presentations of the same thing.

 

[usernamedox11]

False.

There are no documented studies of 60% of women in the sex industry having BPD.

The 60% statistic you're talking about came from a Roosh forum that says 60% of sex workers have been sexually abused.

Pornstars are actually likely to report having a higher self esteem then on average. They are also no more likely to have had been sexually abused.(Griffith, Mitchell, Hart, Adams, & Gu, 2012)

This is the problem with BPD bro science in the manosphere. You guys are talking completely out of your asses and looking absolutely batshít crazy.

No, you are just assuming. I did not get that from the Roosh forum. I don't go there.

http://www.kslegislature.org/li_2014/b2013_14/committees/misc/ctte_h_fed_st_1_20130214_08_other.pdf

It's actually 55%, close enough to 60%, hadn't read about it in a while. Excuse my memory.

Link to the document: www.mcap1.com/data/_uploaded/downloads/Layden_harms.doc

This is the lady that put all this together at upenn: http://www.med.upenn.edu/cct/faculty_layden.html


And according to this study, not having to do with BPD, completely separate study:
"Research has shown that childhood sexual and/or physical abuse significantly predicts engagement in sex work among selected populations, including: adult females "

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2254224/

But okay, former sex workers are completely normal