Post your best short story to tell during a pick up

[MVPlaya]

And in answer to what YOU are saying, I can tell you from personal experience that it's better to come up with your own shyt than to rely on the Mystery Method. You can believe what you want, but half of those pickup llines and methods are a joke. Why do you need to pull out a rabbit from a hat everytime when you are with a girl? That's just pathetic. I've found that the best way to speak to a girl is to be genuine, be playful, charismatic and act like you know her and that she knows you. Why do you need to come up with these stories? That's the work of amateurs.

You keep going further and further off base, becoming laughable again. You don't think I have my own stories to tell? I have a rich life and plenty of experiences to draw from. When I approach a women with an Opinion Opener or context routine its something based off my experiences, not something I read by Mystery. But you know what, I did use Mystery and Style's routines when I started out, and everyone needs somewhere to start. What you say is rather ludicrous, its more of that be yourself bull****: "the best way to speak to a girl is be genuine, be playful, be charismatic."

. . .

Some guys are genuinely neither playful nor charismatic. Good game, guys. Looks like you should quit now because you're being an amateur.

Fact is, rather simply, that being able to tell stories is one of the most powerful tools of not only pick-up but socializing with other people. To command a group's attention and to humor them. And you know what you do when you tell the story? You appear genuine when you say it, you make it playful, and you exude charisma. There is no reason what you said is exclusive to story telling.

And who said I was going to direct these questions at a group of four women? When you are "outnumbered", you change your plans accordingly. YOU can go ahead and use Mystery Method tactics and memorize stories...and I'll come along and take that girl from you. It's not about tactics, methods and stories and pickup lines. It's about GAME. It's about being a man. Do you think that by saying these stories, the girl will be yours.

Do you think the entirety of the game we discuss is just telling stories?

Think again.

I'll tell you the truth. Women are already conditioned in thier minds to think that men are just after sex. Just like Chris Rock says, "When a woman hears a man talks, she knows that he's just going after the puzzy". By saying these useless stories and pickup lines and tactics and methods...you are looking so pathetic.

I guess the two girls I met last night made out with me out of pity then.

Why pull rabbits out of hats? THE PLAYA DOES NOT SEDUCE WOMEN. HE ATTRACTS WOMEN.

This is funny for a couple reasons. First, MM is definitely not based around magic tricks, although thats a popular form of DHV. But whats even funnier is that you keep saying be genuine and talk to the girl, but to talk to her you already indicate interest and she's approaching it as being seduced. Mystery Method is about leading a group so that you attract. What you say proves my point.

When you chase after women, you lose your power.

Which is a key reason I use Mystery Method.

By doing these pickup lines and memorizing these stories, you are chasing. I'll tell you the truth, it really doesn't matter whether you memorize these stories or not. If the girl NEVER liked you in the first place, it just won't work. The easiest way is to just be genuine and be yourself.

By being genuine and playful you are chasing. We're both trying to get laid, you're delusional if you think you're any different in that respect. But the funniest part is this retarded "the easiest way is just to be genuine and be yourself." Guess what, 95% of the guys on this board come here because their genuine self gets them nowhere. Your advice is ****ing meaningless. Its one of those: "look at me, my natural self gets women you guys are all amateurs."

Hilarious.

I'll tell you how I play the game. Bytches and amateurs think to themselves, "What stories should I use? What tactics should I use? More advanced players dont' give a fuk. They just go to the girl and ask say "Hi". But the more seasoned vets go for the girls that show interest and then he makes a move.

Your strategy automatically limits you down to the women who pre-display attraction to you. Mine allows me to meet more women.

But all in all, you want to assume attraction. By making these stories and pickup lines, you aren't assuming attraction.

Says who? This is another stupid claim you make thats rather laughable to anyone whose been working MM into his playstyle.

When I talk to a girl, I assume attraction. assume that she likes me and takes me FARTHER than any of these pickup lines.

Add 1 + 1 and what do you get?

Also, for your information, MM uses zero pick-up lines.

Look at the BEST OF THE BEST of this forum and look at the posts and threads that they make?

Does Shezz ask about short stories and bullshyt like this?
Jariel?
Docs?
Rollo?
Desdinova?
A-Unit?
Disciple?
Senor Fingers?
Pook?
Mission?
Backbreaker?
B-Lemond?
MindOverMatter?
BadAssCanadian?
Bonhomme?
Duke?
Marlimus?
Metal Fortress?
Le Parisien?
Bourne?

Ever wonder why they don't ask for these cheezy pickup lines?
NONE OF THEM DO THIS BULLSHYT?

This the stupidest load of ****ing bull**** I've read to date, and I doubt the guys you even write on this list would disagree with me on this one:

That. List. Means. ****ing. Nothing.

You're new to this board, my name used to be included in posts just like yours in lists just like that until I took a long break from SoSuave. I can tell you hands down that posting often, giving advice, and being considered knowledgeable on SoSuave means absolutely ****ing nothing in terms of game. I learned the majority of my game when experimenting with MM and other styles out in the field. SoSuave is a KJ fest, and mASF has been quickly degenerating into that too.

EVER WONDER WHY?

They know it's just better to ASSUME ATTRACTION.

When you do these wack lines, you aren't ASSUMING ATTRACTION.

When you write in big letters you aren't assuming what you write is worthy of reading. And you're right. Because there's absolutely no logic to what you state.

MVP and Wiesman44, you can go and do your SHYT...but all these playas here will take that girl away from you! And do you wanna know why? Because tactics are for bytches. That's the difference between an amateur and a seasoned vet. The playa does his own shyt. He doesn't need canned lines.

I've seen tons of players in the field try to AMOG me and I hold my own just fine. You, on the other hand, prove your naivete by basing all this bull**** off a "top posters of the week" list.

Just be yourself and act like you know the girl and the girl knows you...

Reading your nonsense I've seen one thing: you don't have the slightest clue about true game. All your stuff boils down to, "chicks dig me, I am myself." What the hell does that mean for someone who comes in here knowing that chicks don't dig him, yet he is himself? Nothing. JBY is a dumb line with absolutely no meaning whatsoever. If you want to discuss game, you discuss game. I'm not going to sit here and listern to 200 blanket assertions and variations of "just be yourself" and "just think you can" that somehow mean what you said gets anyone laid. It doesn't. If you think otherwise, the only person you're fooling is yourself.

-MV

 

[Stackthestyles]

Stop falling back into what other people complain about Killa. I know you've got a good head on your shoulders, tons of energy, but half of what comes out of your mouth is sheep talk.

Those are myths, but they are true. They say be yourself, because it's damned fvcking easy to say what people are supposed to know. Who is going to give you one of YOUR kind of advice columns EVERY time they want to talk to a person? Nobody in their right minds. THey are going to break it down, they assume common sense, when it was not common sense that brought them to that point.

Social axioms are standard social interactions that people in life just seem to "understand" or come to understand at some point in their life. Just like many people who come to this site are extremely anxious when it comes to social situations, they learn what the right method is, and what the wrong method is.... Than in their minds, they think of "little quotes" that only take two seconds to think of, but goes back and reminesces on old memories to back it up. This site is an atrocity to critical thinking, most people here look to the past and say "but pook said this" "so you're wrong!!!"

You are guilty of such crimes Killa.

Anyhow, back to the topic at hand.

This thread is crap, it is best to ask a question, that can only be answered with a story, than to ask for a story. Most people don't want to be put on the spot like that, others think it is a waste of time... your method... well, do I really need to tell you what the results were?

Crutches, stories, methods, theories... these are all "natural" things. People make PLANS... they test plans all of the time. If you ever think before you speak, you are planning, if you don't you are a brash retard. So, using a method to do something IS a method that people have been using for thousands of years. Just like your thread killa, it is one of the processes of language.

No real successful person will run with crutches if they don't need them, but if they were never taught how to walk in life, than who's to say that using crutches as a means to grow stronger is wrong?

People use fake stories, they have their own routines, they can tell jokes, make people laugh, get people interested... funny thing, none of them did it all by themselves, they all had somebody else that they had to copy to get to that point in their lives.

"every poet is a thief"

Every great writer on this board has read a book at some point in their lives. Every book they read, every person they talk to, every movie they watch influences their thoughts, then their actions. Legitimate stories can come to be, by following the footsteps of those you read of.

Why else would somebody feel the need to ever ask a question? If they got advice from somebody they would simply be using the routine inside of their head...

If you've read this far... try to notice the contradiction between the start and finish.

 

[Socialreject]

These kind of debates are largely pointless guys...

If you know what you're talking about because you've tried your angle and it worked for you... keep it up!

If you're just talking out of your ass because you think something sound smore plausible then you should be out there trying all the angles and seeying for yourself what works and what doesn't. Sooner or later we all develop our own style.

 

[Stackthestyles]

A1 A2 A3... all that jazz... that is natural. You don't NEED to know about it, because it already comes to you. If you look carefully, you will see that everybody is doing it, because it is a straight forward method of doing business. It is so common, that it is basically assumed, kids see it happening, and they do the same thing... mind you, few people use the method for the same reasons that we aPUA do.

The reason the mystery method is so popular is because it is true, as is the gunwitch method, and all the other styles. Nobody would listen to their lies if they weren't true. They reject using the styles, because it would mean completely chaning their game to something with less freedom. That is what I see you doing. You reject a lot of styles, but you still use them whether you realize it or not. YOU don't need to memorize the method, because it is already a part of you. Others benefit from the knowledge, they begin to recognize things that they once ignored.

You listed Shezz as a guy who doesn't use lines... have you ever read one of his FR's? He uses the same canned routine in every one, it is now a PART of HIM. The routine which was once "new" is now subconcious, he can now get away with telling a girl at the end of the night that there really were never girls fighting outside and use the "white lie" as a method of seduction. Routines and fake stories are GREAT tools, but it's not necessary. People can have great success WITHOUT this stuff, I know I do, but it's always good to know more about whats going on around you.

I am a salesman as well, I assume the sale, and I KNOW what I am selling. I know the people that are looking to buy from me, and I know what they are worried about. That is all that matters. I tell people to fvck off if they try to tell me how to run my business, because there are absolutely no problems. My loyal customers will always come, and if anybody asks, my name is at the tip of their tongue... Not everybody wants to be a salesman though, and few people are willing to try. For some the salesman attitude is not there, they don't try to convince people of anything, they don't try to help anybody out. There are lawyers, and doctors out there, their style is completely different than our own. The lawyer finds out the particulars, knows the goal, and weasels his way to the finish line hoping nothing else gets in the way, he puts on the fake smiles, and has the fake stories... who is going to relate to being a lawyer though? I know criminals will, and many women are criminals, so the lawyer falls under the "I want a man to protect me" file. Doctors have their niche as well, people approach them, the doctors are your style, they get the "eye contact" and they can "assume the sale" because the woman would be stupid not to. Most doctors I know are total asses though, totally enshirne themselves, they are the best of the best, c0cky because they can be, but few people respect them for anything other than their lifestyle and value.

lol, I wasn't talking to you in that quote, I was pointing at the guy who started this thread, but going back to find his name, well, I'm not looking for props so, whatever

It's funny how you did that, "who are you to judge me" than you go in the other direction and poke me with the truth.

I haven't even read the mystery method. I saw a diagram... that's about it... everything I hear when people talk about the mystery method relates to that diagram... I can probably draw that thing from memory alone even though the last time I saw it was nearly a year ago.

As for my game... who are you to judge? You made guesses, and they are all wrong. How do I have time to bump useless random threads? I do research, sometimes this site comes up in google phrase searches... if the thread is good, I bump it. If it's about to be deleted, but is ten times better than the advice posted now, I will bump it. They said the advice when the forum was new was great, and that it is only going downhill now is very true. The experts are leaving, and the newbies are joining very fast, last I checked there was 20 new members joining per day.

Oh yeah, my game... I am learning so I can teach others, I am not here to make you guys happy. You bring up a question that I can answer, and I will reword myself. Bring up a stupid concept, I will bug you to find out the reason. I make hypothetical questions to people that know what they are doing, just to get an idea of what to do when the situation goes raw.

If I thought I knew so much about the game, I would post tip threads. I think I made a single thread in tips. It wasn't even a regular tip, just a warning. I don't know "the game" because I only know my "life" I am a boring mofo sometimes, because I don't feel like "playing games". I get laid every other night though, I approach every girl that comes into my 'radius'. I choose my battles, I'll talk to girls who are crying, others who are yelling, I LOVE sh!t tests because hell, they're invitations, I'll talk to girls with boyfriends, girls taht are working, and girls in groups. I have guy friends, they respect me... but I am not interested in guy friends at this point in my life... If you want to be useful to me, than tell me about "guy friends" as in benefits and reasons, otherwise, I already know I have the other problems.

Ignoring everything above. I stopped recognizing tactics and methods after I had no need for them. They are now just 'ideas' things to use when I am bored.

 

[MVPlaya]

I'm at work so I can't read everything you said or respond in detail, but I'll say this for now:

1. There is nothing unnatural about Mystery Method. I know where you come from, you discuss Playa_Supreme's posts and I learned a lot by reading his stuff and following that advice. But there's a problem. All these "approach in the moment of attraction" strategies are based on people being attracted to you already. If you want to do this, there are several criteria you are looking for before you approach a girl, and Playa_Supreme said this himself too: 1) you make sure she's attractive, 2) you make sure she's alone and approachable, 3) you make sure she's attracted to you, 4) you make sure you have social proof.

You DON'T carry these four things around with you in your back pocket. Women tell me I'm a pretty boy myself and so I know I have a headsup on some of these factors, but when you're out at a club, there's always someone who looks better or is getting more attention for whatever reason. You can't expect to see that attractive approachable girl whose sending you signals but sitting alone and knows you have social proof. If you wait on these you are massively limiting your options. The end goal to Mystery Method is to meet these criteria: display social proof, show that you're attractive to women, get her in a position where she's alone and open to your flirting/seducing. Thats what Mystery calls C1-3, and thats where you guys like to begin, but the problem is that the social environment is a puzzle, and you don't get opportunities like that handed in your lap, you need to take the time to build up rapport by approaching their friends and makign sure they won't interfere, you need to get her to see your status and be attracted to you by leading the group and controlling the attention, and you need her to want you to approach her by being hard to get. Once you do these things, you have a girl whose open to your flirting and can be isolated to a 1-on-1 straight seduction environment.

That ^^ is the theory behind Mystery Method, its that you can't expect to have approach opportunities handed in your lap and need to go out there and create them for yourself. If a woman is pre-interested and approachable, grats, easy target, but if she isn't, you need to be able to adapt.


As for posting favorite stories. Like I said before, most people have no idea how to form a story and where to begin. Seeing other people's stories gives them a model to work with and play off of, they can't go from having social phobias at 2pm when they post on SoSuave to knowing the perfect thign to say at 2:15, they need advice, they need guidance, and they need canned routines before they can go out there and do their own stuff, and there's no shame in admitting you have much to learn.

-MV

 

[diplomatic_lies]

Here's a little story I like too tell during pickups:

There was once a guy who memorized a lot of stuff from a bunch of books, but when a girl asked him a question about himself, he got so confused because none of the pickup books ever told guy to talk about themselves.

The end.

 

[jonwon]

I think you are totally misunderstanding the things I was trying to say.

First of all, my message was directed to the original poster and his intentions.

Think about it.

Why would he post this thread?

I'm not exactly sure, but his exact lines were "POST YOUR BEST STORY TO TELL DURING A PICK UP"

So in answer to YOUR question, he WAS intending to use these stories as a pickup.

And in answer to what YOU are saying, I can tell you from personal experience that it's better to come up with your own shyt than to rely on the Mystery Method. You can believe what you want, but half of those pickup llines and methods are a joke. Why do you need to pull out a rabbit from a hat everytime when you are with a girl? That's just pathetic. I've found that the best way to speak to a girl is to be genuine, be playful, charismatic and act like you know her and that she knows you. Why do you need to come up with these stories? That's the work of amateurs.

And who said I was going to direct these questions at a group of four women? When you are "outnumbered", you change your plans accordingly. YOU can go ahead and use Mystery Method tactics and memorize stories...and I'll come along and take that girl from you. It's not about tactics, methods and stories and pickup lines. It's about GAME. It's about being a man. Do you think that by saying these stories, the girl will be yours.

I'll tell you the truth. Women are already conditioned in thier minds to think that men are just after sex. Just like Chris Rock says, "When a woman hears a man talks, she knows that he's just going after the puzzy". By saying these useless stories and pickup lines and tactics and methods...you are looking so pathetic. Why pull rabbits out of hats? THE PLAYA DOES NOT SEDUCE WOMEN. HE ATTRACTS WOMEN. When you chase after women, you lose your power. By doing these pickup lines and memorizing these stories, you are chasing. I'll tell you the truth, it really doesn't matter whether you memorize these stories or not. If the girl NEVER liked you in the first place, it just won't work. The easiest way is to just be genuine and be yourself.

I'll tell you how I play the game. Bytches and amateurs think to themselves, "What stories should I use? What tactics should I use? More advanced players dont' give a fuk. They just go to the girl and ask say "Hi". But the more seasoned vets go for the girls that show interest and then he makes a move. But all in all, you want to assume attraction. By making these stories and pickup lines, you aren't assuming attraction. When I talk to a girl, I assume attraction. I assume that she likes me and takes me FARTHER than any of these pickup lines.

Look at the BEST OF THE BEST of this forum and look at the posts and threads that they make?

Does Shezz ask about short stories and bullshyt like this?
Jariel?
Docs?
Rollo?
Desdinova?
A-Unit?
Disciple?
Senor Fingers?
Pook?
Mission?
Backbreaker?
B-Lemond?
MindOverMatter?
BadAssCanadian?
Bonhomme?
Duke?
Marlimus?
Metal Fortress?
Le Parisien?
Bourne?

Ever wonder why they don't ask for these cheezy pickup lines?
NONE OF THEM DO THIS BULLSHYT?

EVER WONDER WHY?

They know it's just better to ASSUME ATTRACTION.

When you do these wack lines, you aren't ASSUMING ATTRACTION.

MVP and Wiesman44, you can go and do your SHYT...but all these playas here will take that girl away from you! And do you wanna know why? Because tactics are for bytches. That's the difference between an amateur and a seasoned vet. The playa does his own shyt. He doesn't need canned lines.

Just be yourself and act like you know the girl and the girl knows you...

Amen

 

[Roobs]

"this one time at band camp"........

 

[MVPlaya]

Here's a little story I like too tell during pickups:

There was once a guy who memorized a lot of stuff from a bunch of books, but when a girl asked him a question about himself, he got so confused because none of the pickup books ever told guy to talk about themselves.

The end.

You do realize how silly it is to think that learning MM means you know absolutely nothing about yourself, right?

 

[Stackthestyles]

You do realize how silly it is to think that learning MM means you know absolutely nothing about yourself, right?

What is that called again?

I've always wanted to say the word during an argument with somebody, but it never wants to come out. I realize I forgot what the word was years ago.

It's childish behaviour, disregarding something the way that they are... Like going to extremes to prove something wrong, even though most of us, would never stoop to such extremes(ie not knowing anything about ourselves) but the bandwagon says that MM is wrong, and mentally disturbed, so anything coming from him, or anybody who even knows who he is, must suffer prejudgement.

"That house has the DEVIIIIILLLLL!!!" Remember that woman from trading spaces? Same concept.

 

[Egoist]

KBJ fvcking central.

anybody who thinks MM is about routines and lines is an idiot. Its about structure, a proper way to go from hi to an orgasm while employing your best game and getting the best results.

Yes, inner game and frame are key, but your results will be a 100x better with proper structure.

 

[d9930380]

All these rules and theories that you speak off, jeez.

I sometimes think that it's alot of science nerds trying to figure out and quantify the female pysche.

I have a radical opinion, you can't. Telling stories is about keeping them entertained why showing them something about you, asking questions is about showing interest in them and finding common interests. All the time keeping them laughing. It's all about connection, finding someone we gell with and can have fun with.

That's it, trying to figure out if this is a test or that's a test is useless. It probably is but who is she to test you, why do you give a **** about passing her tests. Think about yourself and your needs, be the one in control. Don't take her ****. But also don't get angry, an angry man is not a man in control.

Maybe it's that simple, maybe that's the reason why some guys (confident ones) find it soooo easy, they never lose control of the situation because they don't have the insecurities that cause us to start overanaylsing everthing. They just don't give a ****.

 

[Doggystyle]

Whats with these huge long posts to get a small point across!? I can never be bothered reading them!

Talk about the time you where drunk, what you bought in the shops the other day, the time you crashed your car, your mum, your dad, how much you like snow, what you think of cats, when you knocked your teeth out, your house, the funny pattern on your duvet, your best sex position, the time you **** yourself, your friends, what music you like, talk about the ****ing wall or the floor if you want!!! My point is talk about anything, but make it sound interesting.

 

[d9930380]

So true Doggystyle, it's not what you talk about but how it's delivered.

Most comedy is about the smallest ****iest little things that nag us but we laugh our asses off when someone MAKES them funny.