Possibly the biggest flake in the history of mankind..

Reyaj

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lol read my approach journal and my airline girl example.... I think that flake trumps yours... I had the girl on the phone confirming our date and she calls me back 10 mins later to say she talked to her mom who told her she shouldn't go out while she is upset...

I end up seeing her outside a bar that same night!
 

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The interest level was there because she kept initiating contact involving a night out together. All the positive signs were there......... and at the end..... got a slap to my face. This thing is a blur at the moment cuz I dont know what happened.
If she was really interested she wouldn't have flaked.

It only seems suddenly at the end to you, which is why it's confusing, because you want to hold onto the belief that she was interested all along... which of course makes it confusing if that's what you want to think.

And some guys just can't take the hit to their ego. So they stay thinking that way, confused, trying to make sense out of something that sense can't be made out of (because their reasoning is off). It's called trying to rationalize things.

And since you say it's like a "slap to your face", that just reinforces for me that your ego may be in the way of clearing this up for you.

But I'm like a detective. I look for the motives. I look to see how her actions would make perfect sense - if understood differently. It's like figuring out a puzzle, okay?

I think you're being fooled by seeing her initiating contact as a measure of her interest in you. But again, if she were interested, she wouldn't have flaked. So, maybe her initiating contact wasn't indicative of her interest after all.

You ever hear that women can *act* as if they're interested and display *all* the signs of being interested but actually *not* be interested? That's what may have happened here.

If she was interested all along, but then lost interest toward the end, that would suggest that you did something, or said something, unknowingly, that blew it.

If not that, then what other reasons would she have for initiating contact, if she wasn't looking to keep the date all along?

I already suggested that perhaps she was trying to find out if something came up on your end that precluded you from keeping the date or if you changed your mind, so that she wouldn't have to the dirty work.

I already suggested that maybe she liked getting the attention and so kept it going by putting out the bait by contacting you. She contacted you when she didn't hear from you after a few days.

Hey, it's gotta be something like that, man. Barring that she went into ER, but in which case, she'd call you asap afterwards, apologizing and offering a date to you, and if she keeps that, that's about the only you'd know she was possibly sincere.
 

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Mr. Me said:
If she was really interested she wouldn't have flaked.

It only seems suddenly at the end to you, which is why it's confusing, because you want to hold onto the belief that she was interested all along... which of course makes it confusing if that's what you want to think.

And some guys just can't take the hit to their ego. So they stay thinking that way, confused, trying to make sense out of something that sense can't be made out of (because their reasoning is off). It's called trying to rationalize things.

And since you say it's like a "slap to your face", that just reinforces for me that your ego may be in the way of clearing this up for you.

But I'm like a detective. I look for the motives. I look to see how her actions would make perfect sense - if understood differently. It's like figuring out a puzzle, okay?

I think you're being fooled by seeing her initiating contact as a measure of her interest in you. But again, if she were interested, she wouldn't have flaked. So, maybe her initiating contact wasn't indicative of her interest after all.

You ever hear that women can *act* as if they're interested and display *all* the signs of being interested but actually *not* be interested? That's what may have happened here.

If she was interested all along, but then lost interest toward the end, that would suggest that you did something, or said something, unknowingly, that blew it.

If not that, then what other reasons would she have for initiating contact, if she wasn't looking to keep the date all along?

I already suggested that perhaps she was trying to find out if something came up on your end that precluded you from keeping the date or if you changed your mind, so that she wouldn't have to the dirty work.

I already suggested that maybe she liked getting the attention and so kept it going by putting out the bait by contacting you. She contacted you when she didn't hear from you after a few days.

Hey, it's gotta be something like that, man. Barring that she went into ER, but in which case, she'd call you asap afterwards, apologizing and offering a date to you, and if she keeps that, that's about the only you'd know she was possibly sincere.
Good take on it Mr. Me. your right here, i should have understood this a bit better.
 

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Mr. Me said:
If she was really interested she wouldn't have flaked.

It only seems suddenly at the end to you, which is why it's confusing, because you want to hold onto the belief that she was interested all along... which of course makes it confusing if that's what you want to think.

And some guys just can't take the hit to their ego. So they stay thinking that way, confused, trying to make sense out of something that sense can't be made out of (because their reasoning is off). It's called trying to rationalize things.

And since you say it's like a "slap to your face", that just reinforces for me that your ego may be in the way of clearing this up for you.

But I'm like a detective. I look for the motives. I look to see how her actions would make perfect sense - if understood differently. It's like figuring out a puzzle, okay?

I think you're being fooled by seeing her initiating contact as a measure of her interest in you. But again, if she were interested, she wouldn't have flaked. So, maybe her initiating contact wasn't indicative of her interest after all.

You ever hear that women can *act* as if they're interested and display *all* the signs of being interested but actually *not* be interested? That's what may have happened here.

If she was interested all along, but then lost interest toward the end, that would suggest that you did something, or said something, unknowingly, that blew it.

If not that, then what other reasons would she have for initiating contact, if she wasn't looking to keep the date all along?

I already suggested that perhaps she was trying to find out if something came up on your end that precluded you from keeping the date or if you changed your mind, so that she wouldn't have to the dirty work.

I already suggested that maybe she liked getting the attention and so kept it going by putting out the bait by contacting you. She contacted you when she didn't hear from you after a few days.

Hey, it's gotta be something like that, man. Barring that she went into ER, but in which case, she'd call you asap afterwards, apologizing and offering a date to you, and if she keeps that, that's about the only you'd know she was possibly sincere.

I have to disagree with you.... girls can be genuinely interested like I think was the case here. I mean she texted him asking to make plans without him iniaiting it... she texted him out of the blue which is a clear IOI.... This has happend to me a lot.... Girls are just very capricious and sometimes stand guys up or flake even at the last minute.... part of it may be game, part of it may be nerves, or maybe she got a better offer... whatever the case may be this is the nature of a lot of women
 

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who cares about the fukin rating.
 

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One thing, How should i reply when she contacts me again. its not a matter of if but when. How should i respond/react?
 

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She's tryin to contact me again. How should i respond?
 

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Ask her what happened, and if it sounds fishy, either call her on her **** or make it sound like you don't believe her and she's got some explaining to do. Act like someone who's time just got disrespected.

Anyways the one thing that stuck out from your original story that bothered me, and I believe this is another of your mistakes: why didn't you get the address earlier? Did you already have her address? If you did, then there's no need to confirm again. And if you really need her address cuz you forgot it or something, give her a call, don't text.
 

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UPDATE. She sends me a text at 1am and the convo went on....

Her: Hey

Me: you must be drunk to be texting me

Her: huh? Why you say that?

Me: because of that circus act you pulled. its alright though i ended up hanging with some other girls.

Her: Wtf? First of all don't come at me like that, second of all I didn't pull anything on you I had a very long busy day and didn't get home till 11!...and 2 top it off I had no babysitter for my baby cousin thats staying with me ...so if u thought I was tryin to stand you up ur definitely wrong!!...I wouldn't have said yes to going out with you in the first place and I wouldn't have texted you earlier in the day to ask if we were still on.

Her: and to top it off my phone was dead!

Me: like i said, its alright. i ended up hanging out with someone else but you could of let me know somehow u wasnt gona make it so i didnt drive out there.

Her: How!? if my phone was dead!!...I dont know ur number by heart!!...and the very first thing I did when I got home was text u sayin that I was sorry but couldn't make it.

Me: i even asked you early in the day for your address but i didnt get a response.

Her: I was busy at work I didn't get a chance 2 respond.

Her: Don't make it seem like I didnt go on purpose

Me:i never got ur text sayin u couldnt make it.

Her: I for sure sent it!!! why are you acting like that

Me: nope, i didnt get it at all and im not actin like anything, I duno why you seem to be getting upset. It seemed like you just stood me up.

Her: No i didnt!!...it wasn't like I didn't have the intentions of going ....like I said I wouldn't have made plans and text u in the morning to confirm the plans n then blow u off.

Her: I have a life job n my baby cousin to look after sometimes **** happens

Me: i understand that but what im tryin to tell you is that i didnt get a text sayin u couldnt make it, so i assumed you stood me up. anyone would assume that if they didnt get a notice.

Her: Ok n im tellin u regardless, whether u got the text or not im tellin u now that I sent it!!...

The convo went on a bit more,.... she then says we can make plans to go out again if i was up to it.

What you guys think?
 

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I don't really see the harm in giving her another chance. I mean she kinda said she was sorry and wants to set something else up. Unless you just don't want to do anything with her I say give her another chance. It's not like it matters at this point.
 

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sprint said:
I don't really see the harm in giving her another chance. I mean she kinda said she was sorry and wants to set something else up. Unless you just don't want to do anything with her I say give her another chance. It's not like it matters at this point.

Yeah,I agree with Sprint. From the text message conversation she seemed pretty sincere. Go ahead and set up another date and don't get bogged down in this quarrel about whether or not you got her text about not being able to make it. I mean,she did suggest another date and ask if you were up to it,right? She asked you out. Go ahead and go out with her,but if this happens again,if for ANY reason she can't make it and you have to contact her in order to find out what happened......NEXT!!!
 

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Hmm.. thats for the advice guys. ill see what happens.
 

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In2theGame,long time dj, short time poster.. and I am going through a similar situation atm so I thought I'd give you my 2 cents. quite funny actually. This girl I am currently seeing is a massive flake. Like no one I've ever experienced. Like your chick seemed very genuine and like she really wanted to catch up. all IOI were very high. then we had a date set. called her phone, wrote her a message - similar to yours. nothing. Next day she got in touch with an excuse which seemed possible but very unlikely. I said " i think it's so cute how you're so full of **** - but i don't care just could have seem a number of other friends" etc. She said she wanted to catch up again, and you guessed right, she cancelled. This time I told her to have respect for my time amongst other things. no reply. next day she said she was sorry and wanted to make it up to me. reluctantly i agreed with a few conditions. This time I made alternate plans for my night,, to cut a long story short. we hung out, i slept with her, and I got to the bottom of it. She was living in her and her exes house. He kept popping over every night. Stalked her. When she met me she was still with him and was scared she would lose me by telling me about him, but after i called her holes in her story she came clean moved out and the rest is history.goes to prove that sometimes persistence and not making assumptions can pay off. Even if this chick was so full of **** and I'd say yours was too,,there is more to the story.get1
 

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just another quick note saying that, just expect her to flake make other plans, don't accuse her of anything unless you do in person and do it jokingly, say i think its so cute how you're so full of ****...be playful show it doesn't phase you. etc etc
 
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