Possibly successful date, but I feel like it was a complete failure.

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Nothing lost or gained, really. Spent no money at all and had a pretty good time, but I honestly feel like less than a man and like a complete turd right now.

Met this girl through a friend last Friday when he invited her and I to go to a party with him. She looked good so I did the usual sh*t, tease, flirt, C&F, kino, ect... We all go back to his place after the party and watch a movie, more of that game I just mentioned, and I felt that if my friend wasn't there it would have been easy to escalate further. Got her number that night, texted her Tuesday and set up a date for tonight (don't want to see any posts about texting being bad and going on a weekend date being bad, I'VE HEARD IT).

Took her to the nightlife part of my area, walked around a bit, she bought herself something to eat in a restaurant/bar, walked some more, and at one point she tells me her parents are out of town visiting her older sister. I suggest a movie at her place, she's down for it and we go to her place. We go to her "area" and start watching a movie on her couch. Same game, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Kino goes from my arm on the headrest of the couch and just touching her a little, to my arm actually being around her, then to my arm around her and the sides of our legs touching, then to her legs draped on top of my leg with my arm around her while gently caressing her right arm and left leg with my fingertips. So obviously what's next is some kissing, and this is where everything went downhill. At some point I ask her, "did you have a good time?" just to get her to look at me, and I touch the side of her chin with my hand and she says, "If I didn't you wouldn't be here at 1 am." So this is it right? Deep gaze, constant kino, hand on her face... So everything up till this point has been fantastic, and that's the reason I'm in this position, about to kiss her. The simplest way I can put this is that I froze. Ugh, I hate writing that. Nothing BAD happened, but I didn't kiss her either. We watch about 10 minutes more of T.V. then, "I've gotta kick you out so I can wake up for work tomorrow morning." Yeah, it was time for my p*ssy ass to leave anyways. I was actually sick to my stomach when leaving because of what I HADN'T done. I give her a hug (ugh), say "I'm sure I'll see you again sometime," and leave, having lost an insanely large amount of respect for myself.

I'm no longer AFC enough to believe that my "life is over" or some ridiculous sh*t like that, but I also know enough about game to know I made a HUGE mistake by not moving in that last 2-4 inches... The real sad thing is that I knew I wasn't going to get rejected, I actually knew that I WASN'T going to be rejected if I were to kiss her, and I still didn't do it. I really am disappointed in myself, and I truly did lose a lot of respect for myself tonight. I also feel like I nexted myself. Not like she nexted me, but I actually feel that I have nexted myself in this situation and there is no way to recover here so why even bother contacting her again? Most people who aren't trying to become DJ's could probably say this date went well or there were a lot of good things that happened, but for me, I failed. My plan was to AT LEAST make out, and I knew going in that I could do it no problem (which I could have), but I rejected myself! Who the f*ck does that!?

Sh*t I could write a book on how much of a p*ssy b!tch I am right now, and how much respect I've lost for myself, so I'm just going to end this.
 

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Nothing lost or gained, really. Spent no money at all and had a pretty good time, but I honestly feel like less than a man and like a complete turd right now.

Met this girl through a friend last Friday when he invited her and I to go to a party with him. She looked good so I did the usual sh*t, tease, flirt, C&F, kino, ect... We all go back to his place after the party and watch a movie, more of that game I just mentioned, and I felt that if my friend wasn't there it would have been easy to escalate further.just do it anyway, make him eihter leave or watch (and he will get uncomfortable and leave anyway)Got her number that night, texted her Tuesday and set up a date for tonight (don't want to see any posts about texting being bad and going on a weekend date being bad, I'VE HEARD IT).

Took her to the nightlife part of my area, walked around a bit, she bought herself something to eat in a restaurant/bar, walked some more, and at one point she tells me her parents are out of town visiting her older sister. I suggest a movie at her place, she's down for it and we go to her place. We go to her "area" and start watching a movie on her couch. Same game, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Kino goes from my arm on the headrest of the couch and just touching her a little, to my arm actually being around her, then to my arm around her and the sides of our legs touching, then to her legs draped on top of my leg with my arm around her while gently caressing her right arm and left leg with my fingertips. So obviously what's next is some kissing, and this is where everything went downhill. At some point I ask her, "did you have a good time?" just to get her to look at me, why not just go in a Breaking Rapport tonality "HEY... look at me...[whatever yuo wanan say else and gaze into her eys or somoe sh!t ] then kiss... total male dominence and intent "and I touch the side of her chin with my hand and she says, "If I didn't you wouldn't be here at 1 am." assume attraction , she there wiht you and your the coolest Mo Fo around.... of course shes having a good time! shes with you So this is it right? Deep gaze, constant kino, hand on her face... So everything up till this point has been fantastic, and that's the reason I'm in this position, about to kiss her. The simplest way I can put this is that I froze. Ugh, I hate writing that. Nothing BAD happened, but I didn't kiss her either. We watch about 10 minutes more of T.V. then, "I've gotta kick you out so I can wake up for work tomorrow morning." Yeah, it was time for my p*ssy ass to leave anyways. I was actually sick to my stomach when leaving because of what I HADN'T done. I give her a hug (ugh), say "I'm sure I'll see you again sometime," and leave, having lost an insanely large amount of respect for myself.

I'm no longer AFC enough to believe that my "life is over" or some ridiculous sh*t like that, but I also know enough about game to know I made a HUGE mistake by not moving in that last 2-4 inches... The real sad thing is that I knew I wasn't going to get rejected, I actually knew that I WASN'T going to be rejected if I were to kiss her, and I still didn't do it. I really am disappointed in myself, and I truly did lose a lot of respect for myself tonight. I also feel like I nexted myself. Not like she nexted me, but I actually feel that I have nexted myself in this situation and there is no way to recover here so why even bother contacting her again? Most people who aren't trying to become DJ's could probably say this date went well or there were a lot of good things that happened, but for me, I failed. My plan was to AT LEAST make out, and I knew going in that I could do it no problem (which I could have), but I rejected myself! Who the f*ck does that!?
try her again, she may stil want to see you, iff not lesson learned

Sh*t I could write a book on how much of a p*ssy b!tch I am right now, and how much respect I've lost for myself, so I'm just going to end this.
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haha!

Life lesson learned! Happened to me a few years back and I felt like utter Sh!t! When it comes time to kiss the girl, you kiss the girl!

Don't kiss her at the end of the night, kiss her when things are going good!

My bad experience was when I took this HB9 girl out to a spontaneous front row seats to britney spears. it got her real hot for me, but at the end of the day i just dropped her off, DESPITE her asking if i wanted to come into her place. I thought playing nice guy would be better (at the time). boy, was i wrong. we never gone out on a date after that. After looking at her fb shes dating ugly dudes who probably "went in for the kiss" when they should have. Your girl will go out with you again i'm sure, just make out with her this time.

My advice is to kiss the girl when things are going great! when your girl is laughing, smiling, and loving every moment with you get that girl's attention by saying "hey!" and go in for it.

good luck and I hope you never feel like that again
 

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Next time you get close to the kissing part, you should verbalize your intent, something along the lines of "I feel like kissing you, but I feel funny.. as if I had some butterflies in my stomach. Do you feel the same way?" This should ease up a bit the pressure youre feeling and put you on the kissing autopilot.

And to the haters out there that will say this will "RUIN" your "chances" with her - It wont. If she likes you (and she does) this wont affect your "chances" one bit.
 

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HariPoter13 said:
Next time you get close to the kissing part, you should verbalize your intent, something along the lines of "I feel like kissing you, but I feel funny.. as if I had some butterflies in my stomach. Do you feel the same way?" This should ease up a bit the pressure youre feeling and put you on the kissing autopilot.

And to the haters out there that will say this will "RUIN" your "chances" with her - It wont. If she likes you (and she does) this wont affect your "chances" one bit.
Ive lost count of all the females I've kissed. Out of all of them I don't ever ever remember saying "I feel like kissing you" It just happened. "when you gotta shoot shoot don't talk" -tuko
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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6-8 months ago my AFC self would have thought this was a phenomenal date, I now know better. Getting the girl, sex, and love at this point in my life is only about 20% of why I'm so upset right now. The other 80% is me wanting to be able to BE A REAL MAN and just DO SH*T with confidence (this area of my life and every other area as well). So I'm not as much worried about redeeming myself to her by "pulling the trigger" as I am about redeeming myself to MYSELF.

I'll hit her up Tuesday night or Wednesday early afternoon with "I want to see you again" or something and we'll see what happens.
 

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kingsam said:
just do it anyway, make him eihter leave or watch (and he will get uncomfortable and leave anyway)
He will leave his own place?

HariPoter13 said:
And to the haters out there that will say this will "RUIN" your "chances" with her - It wont. If she likes you (and she does) this wont affect your "chances" one bit.
It won´t ruin them but it´s not good either, you´ll have one or two more shots with her, and if you dont settle the deal by then she´ll think you´re a ***** and you´ll likely get shipped to the friends zone.
 

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Korrupt said:
6-8 months ago my AFC self would have thought this was a phenomenal date, I now know better. Getting the girl, sex, and love at this point in my life is only about 20% of why I'm so upset right now. The other 80% is me wanting to be able to BE A REAL MAN and just DO SH*T with confidence (this area of my life and every other area as well). So I'm not as much worried about redeeming myself to her by "pulling the trigger" as I am about redeeming myself to MYSELF.

I'll hit her up Tuesday night or Wednesday early afternoon with "I want to see you again" or something and we'll see what happens.
That sounds luke some ***** sh!t just hit her up again and say you want to come over and **** her. She had u over at 1am and u blew it she wanted to be phuked now go phuk this broad before i do! lol
 

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yeah pulling the trigger can be a bit hard sometimes
but the more you do it, the more you will realize the direct correlation between kissing a girl, and getting her nekkid and slippery
hit her up again but maybe not with 'i want to see you' - i hate it when girls say that to me, it sounds needy. why not just have something you are already doing that she should do with you
 

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and i would leave out the 'butterflies' stuff... something like that worked for me once but I think only because of other circumstances
 

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Gonna update this. Texted her at 5 pm with a little joke, and didn't get a text back till 9:30 pm. I text back and forth with her a few times, then I tell her we should go out again, and she asks "how about sunday?" Hmmm... She told me before that she's off on Saturdays, and works till 6 pm on Sundays, but this time she wants to go out Sunday instead of Saturday... I text her back saying I need to see if I have something going on or not, and that I'd get back to her tomorrow. I could try to spin this in my favor saying that I'm actually busy on Friday and Saturday, so Sunday is perfect, but...

Did I just get downgraded? Thoughts? Suggestions?
 

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Korrupt said:
Did I just get downgraded? Thoughts?
Who gives a fvck? Get your self upgraded again.

Korrupt said:
Suggestions?
Give her a hell of a time. This time grab your balls, realize your a man, and just do it. Rock her world, and she'll want to be in yours.

With experience, it will become easier. But you HAVE to make the move. You'll feel WAY better getting rejected than you did after pvssing out.

PS: You won't get rejected.
 

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Korrupt said:
Gonna update this. Texted her at 5 pm with a little joke, and didn't get a text back till 9:30 pm. I text back and forth with her a few times, then I tell her we should go out again, and she asks "how about sunday?" Hmmm... She told me before that she's off on Saturdays, and works till 6 pm on Sundays, but this time she wants to go out Sunday instead of Saturday... I text her back saying I need to see if I have something going on or not, and that I'd get back to her tomorrow. I could try to spin this in my favor saying that I'm actually busy on Friday and Saturday, so Sunday is perfect, but...

Did I just get downgraded? Thoughts? Suggestions?

No big deal. I don't see any huge error. Just tell her you're going to place 'A' and you want her to come. Then tell her that you two "owe" each other something. And leave it at that. If she asks. Tell her to be there. (And end the conversation) And kiss her next time!
 

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kingsam said:
just go in a Breaking Rapport tonality "HEY... look at me...[whatever yuo wanan say else and gaze into her eys or somoe sh!t ] then kiss... total male dominence and intent
This. You had it laid on a silver platter for you, not a problem. Next time you know what to do. Why is this a learning lesson? Because you knew she was attracted and you had time to pull the trigger, unfortunately, your frame of mind just wasn't there this time. Next time you'll go in with huge intent and dominance, if you manage to get another date with her. You're not in the Friendzone, stop worrying.

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He will leave his own place?
Its not that he'll leave his place, he can crash downstairs? If they're long-term buddies. He'll know Korrupt is trying to get his stuff together and bow out gracefully. I believe if this happend, Korrupt would've closed the deal by kissing her. Not your friends fault, except for Korrupt making it a big of a deal.

Korrupt, your friend should know about 'Bro Code' and be able to recognise when one of his buddies is trying to get his game on. Maybe, if you had showed dominance, and heavy sexual intent, he would bail out. He'll feel uncomfortable. Do you really want to ask her, if she had a good time? No you don't. Seal the deal and SHOW her that she did for the grand finale. Less talking, more doing.
 

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Texted her today saying Sunday was good for me, and that I'd pick her up this time, so I'd let her know sometime before Sunday what time I could be there. Have not received a text back (the message I sent doesn't necessarily need a response, but I expected an "ok" or something), so I'm preparing for a flake when I actually text her a time in the next few days.
 

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Gonna update this.

She didn't flake. I picked her up at her house, also met her parents, who seemed cool. Took her to play mini-golf, and on the way to the place I realized I only had 4 dollars in my wallet (made jokes about this) because I had forgot to restock the cash earlier. So she had to pay and I told her I'd "make it up to her." It went well, focused on having fun there, which we did (don't feel like explaining every little detail of my game here).

Went back to my place, walked around the neighborhood and holy sh*t I must've hit a nerve when I asked her about dogs because she explained in detail to me about all six dogs she's had in the past. Go into my house to watch a movie, I have a drink but she didn't like Bailey's Irish Cream Alcohol (wtf?). We watch some sh*t horror movie, which was perfect because we could make jokes about it. I get some kino going, slowly escalating to where I was last week. Movie ends, she gets up to use the bathroom, comes back and sits down with my arm around her. I tell her to "look at me" and I just f*cking went for the kiss and did it. Going to be honest and say that it wasn't any Hollywood "perfect kiss." It was quick, a bit awkward, and I felt like she was kissing fast. Whatever, she didn't reject it.

We watch some T.V. and at some point I change the channel from what she wanted to watch. She wants the controller, I don't give it to her. A little wrestling match ensues and she lunges over me on the couch to try and get the controller. At some point I say she's being a bad girl and slap her ass. Little more T.V. then it's time to take her home. I open her door to the car, but I stand in the way so she can't get in and say "so, you think you won in mini-golf, huh?" She says yeah or some sh*t, then I tell her no way (all while movie in closer to her) and kiss her again. This kiss felt so much smoother and better. It was slower and just... Better. Took her home and told her I'd see her again "sometime." End.

A few things she said through the date stuck out to me though. It wasn't some crazy sh*t she said, but for some reason it stuck out.

"What do you think of my parents?"
"Thanks for picking me up."
"I had fun. Mini-golf was a good idea."

I have NO IDEA why but these stuck out to me. Woman-ese?
 
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Gonna update this.

She didn't flake. I picked her up at her house, also met her parents, who seemed cool. Took her to play mini-golf, and on the way to the place I realized I only had 4 dollars in my wallet (made jokes about this) because I had forgot to restock the cash earlier. So she had to pay and I told her I'd "make it up to her." It went well, focused on having fun there, which we did (don't feel like explaining every little detail of my game here).

Went back to my place, walked around the neighborhood and holy sh*t I must've hit a nerve when I asked her about dogs because she explained in detail to me about all six dogs she's had in the past. Go into my house to watch a movie, I have a drink but she didn't like Bailey's Irish Cream Alcohol (wtf?). We watch some sh*t horror movie, which was perfect because we could make jokes about it. I get some kino going, slowly escalating to where I was last week. Movie ends, she gets up to use the bathroom, comes back and sits down with my arm around her. I tell her to "look at me" and I just f*cking went for the kiss and did it. Going to be honest and say that it wasn't any Hollywood "perfect kiss." It was quick, a bit awkward, and I felt like she was kissing fast. Whatever, she didn't reject it.

We watch some T.V. and at some point I change the channel from what she wanted to watch. She wants the controller, I don't give it to her. A little wrestling match ensues and she lunges over me on the couch to try and get the controller. At some point I say she's being a bad girl and slap her ass. Little more T.V. then it's time to take her home. I open her door to the car, but I stand in the way so she can't get in and say "so, you think you won in mini-golf, huh?" She says yeah or some sh*t, then I tell her no way (all while movie in closer to her) and kiss her again. This kiss felt so much smoother and better. It was slower and just... Better. Took her home and told her I'd see her again "sometime." End.

A few things she said through the date stuck out to me though. It wasn't some crazy sh*t she said, but for some reason it stuck out.

"What do you think of my parents?"
"Thanks for picking me up."
"Mini-golf was a good idea."

I have NO IDEA why but these stuck out to me. ********?
"What do you think of my parents?"

She may think of you as a good guy. (nothing wrong with that.) You should've said. Next time tell her her parents are cool people but they should've taught her to respect a man when he has control of the remote!


"Thanks for picking me up."

Means: Thanks for picking me up. Reply: Thanks for being my sugar mama!

"Mini-golf was a good idea."

She probably wanted the Kino (arms around her) you filthy animal! lol
 

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start rubbing her pu$$y next time when getting hot and heavy kising in.......

check out man*****.org and see how he is a dominant guy with sex (he is VERY dominant, but you being a bit more leading and dominant - and you should be ok to push it further)
 

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