pook's 15 lessons are MISLEADING... also why SELF IMPROVEMENT SHOULD NOT BE THE FOCUS

[Mr. Cardio]

I like Pooks posts, but is pook saying, kill the afc, be the man you want to be, and THEN, you will attract the pvssy you want....while you still MUST KNOW how to seduce her, I know many men who are not nearly the men they should be, and have the best relationships. I think Pook is inspirational on teaching you how to get the best in life, but when you really learn how to fvck women, women are not the focus of your life, they are just the icing on the cake, the decoration on the tree, and the god damn ho, ho, ho in your santa claus.

 

[bobbob]

Spot on post.



After over a year on this site, I've realized that 95% of it is bull****.

like TD says in fight club

"Self improvement is masturbation."

 

[bobbob]

I'm gonna say this loud and clear:

POOK IS FULL OF ****.


The guy already has said he was getting women BEFORE any of the changes he made to his life. So he worked out and got hotter women? THATS YOUR ****ING ADVICE???



Working out to get women for a man is the equivalent of a chick getting a boob job to attract guys.


Show me the ugly guys who don't look good and get women, let me read THEIR advice. I don't want to read the advice of some ******* who already was getting women and hit the gym and made some ridiculous posts about self improvement and becoming the man women want you to be.

 

[backbreaker]

first of all, most of you are missing the point.

DJing isnt' about.. well... just about.. getting women..

A True DJ is someone who loves life, loves themselves and truely live to be the best person they can be.

Believe it or not, there are things, far, far, far, FAR more rewarding then sex...

Alot of you sound like Beavis and Butt-head on the quest to score... like it's your only mission in life.

However, I can't really talk because I used to be the same way... then I grew up.


Sure, you can score if you aren't a DJ.. no one says "hey, the REASON YOU AREN'T SCORING, is because you need to self improve.. no one is going to sleep with you until you self improve"

NO one ever said that.. You might even snag a HB 7-8... maybe even a 9 from time to time.

But while we are on the subject of SEX,.. DJing is like BASF...

It doesn't make you have sex... it make's having sex.. easier.

4 years ago, I had sex... I have never been in a point in my life where I couldn't attract women. EVER. The girls were usually average, ,and I usually had 1 and was lucky to have that one, even though I was attractive.. I was a pretty average guy.

I, and this is the god's honest truth, am at a point now, where girls that I would have killed to go on dates with, not even have sex with, but just DATES, I can't even fit in my damn schedule because too many women want my time. The girl that bought me to this forum, who I would have done anything to just get a kiss from her 3-4 years ago, cursed me out and started crying because I hadn't made time for her in a week.

I'm to a point now, where if a girl pisses me off, I dont' argue, I don't even get mad, I get up and leave and will go over another girls.. well, woman's house, or call someone to come over my house (that puts a quick stop to **** tests.. **** this *****, i'm out).


I can go on and on... I had a three way about a month ago... but I can go on and on, but it comes down to this..


The better you are as a whole, the easier the game gets.

the more well rounded you are, the more women aren't of as importance.

The people here whoose whole idea is just to get laid, show me exactly where they are as a person, and that is to no offense, it's just hte gods honest truth.

As much sex as I can have, there are tiems where I go weeks, ,even a month without it, because frankly, I have better things to do. now this isn't often, but sometimes I just feel I have better things to do then to waste it ****ing.

Now granted, I"m very well off,and it helps... but not much because I am not flashy and only 2 people, my two best friends, know how much money I have. ONly one girl that I am ****ing even knows what I do for a living. All they know is I am 22 with a nice house a 2 nice cars.

I don't even attempt to get women any longer... I made a post about a year ago, where I said that basically I don't approach women, they approach me, and that is still true... I will say now, tht what I ment by that, is women make it very well known when they are attracted to you, and I take advantage of the opprotunity.


LIke I said, sure, if getting laid is your only agenda, then no you don't have to go the self improvement "route".. but then again.. self improvement shouldn't be a "route" and if you have to improve yourself just to get women, then you are wasting your time improving yourself.

Women are a byproduct of being the best person you can possibly be, not the reason to be the best person you can possibly be.

 

[backbreaker]

Originally posted by Mr. Cardio
I like Pooks posts, but is pook saying, kill the afc, be the man you want to be, and THEN, you will attract the pvssy you want....while you still MUST KNOW how to seduce her, I know many men who are not nearly the men they should be, and have the best relationships. I think Pook is inspirational on teaching you how to get the best in life, but when you really learn how to fvck women, women are not the focus of your life, they are just the icing on the cake, the decoration on the tree, and the god damn ho, ho, ho in your santa claus.

This is the kind of post that kills me.

Okay, I know a man that is fat and ugly and he does great with women...

So should you conclue that you have to be FAT and ugly to get women?

Of course not.

Hell, let's look at that in other angles in life.

Bill GAtes never finished college? Does that mean to be rich and famous you shoudlnt finish college?

I know a guy, who is literarly mentally ill, does nothign with his life, tired to kill himself twice, cries when things don't go his way and doesn't work or attend college, but for the last 3 years he had the girl of my dreams wrapped around his finger.. oh, he wasn't good looking either, by her own obmission..

Does that mean I shoudl have been physco, and tried to kill myself to get this girl?

Hell no!

First of all, you don't know all of the facts of why she choose the fat and ugly guy. IN the case of this girl I am reffering to, it was basically be casue the guys family was very well off.

In another case, it could be because the fat ugly guy simply reminds her of her dad... the point is, you just don't know, so stop making assumptions..

the only thing you know and can control is YOU.

 

[backbreaker]

naw, pook is the real deal... he just puts a little more effort into his writing.. he has a natural talent for it.

 

[diplomatic_lies]

Originally posted by backbreaker
Okay, I know a man that is fat and ugly and he does great with women...

So should you conclue that you have to be FAT and ugly to get women?

Of course not.

I agree. This is the biggest problem - guys say "but fat and ugly guys get laid with hot chicks too, why should I improve?"

 

[djbr]

Originally posted by Mr. Cardio
I like Pooks posts, but is pook saying, kill the afc, be the man you want to be, and THEN, you will attract the pvssy you want....while you still MUST KNOW how to seduce her, I know many men who are not nearly the men they should be, and have the best relationships. I think Pook is inspirational on teaching you how to get the best in life, but when you really learn how to fvck women, women are not the focus of your life, they are just the icing on the cake, the decoration on the tree, and the god damn ho, ho, ho in your santa claus.

Oh yeah. But all the game in the world will not do SHYT to you after, say, 1 year of relationship??

Right now I do not want a relationship, so game may help. But self-improvement takes *time*, and if I start later, I may lost too much of it.

Besides, I want to be rich when I hit my 30s.

 

[Mr. Cardio]

guys just to keep it real, you all know I was bullshyting a couple days ago on here, i said this site cant really get you women, let me keep it real.

this site is great for gettign the best out of life, I mean, career wise, health wise, I mean, if you come to this site, and dont live the life or create the life you want to live in, its your fault, all the information is here, and real guys like Pook can make the most lazy, unambitious azz get off his azz and go out and achieve success in his life.

but this site really does base most of its gettng women on the life you create for yourself, and that is why this site is not good for getting to the understanding and really getting women, quality or non quality. I think the www.fastseduction.com, does a better job at getting you pvssy. So here you have the best of both worlds. you are a don juan because you have the informaion from sosuave, and you are a natural player and pick up artist, because of teh information at fastseduction. Should all you care abuot is pvssy, hell yeah no, but pvssy is a big part of enjoying life, whether you want to admit it or not, pvssy feels good to fvck(or eat if its your thing) and its feel good as hell when all these bytches are on your dyck, now....dont lie! But you should have ambitions further beyond pvssy, so use both sites to become the man you want to in your dreams, and use the fastseduction website to become the man of womens dreams and now you are riding high buddy with the best of life and the best of women!! As Ric Flair would say, WOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[ketostix]

Interesting thread. I got to mostly agree with the Delta's post and his proponents. Sure, self-improvement should only help but if you're not attracting women it could be and likely is for reasons other than a need for the usual self-improvement suggestions, i.e., working out, being a great man or whatever pook and his proponents suggest.

The point is some guys, are in shape, maybe successful yet can't seem to attract females and they want to bang a female they're attracted too. Obviously they don't have a game plan that is working for them. And they don't know why they're failing with women. I'm saying they have a some shortcoming or sticking point, one or maybe more fundamental "flaw(s)", that they don't know what it is. How are you going to self-improve a flaw that you can't even identify?





I wanted to reply to Slicksters old post because he made a good template to make some real salient points..

Originally posted by Slickster
Let's put this bullshyt to rest boys.
>>OK

If you can't get laid it's because the women you wish to lay don't find you attractive.
>>Yes, but the $50,000 question, what is the fundamantal reason(s) they aren't attracted?

If they did, you would be fvcking them RIGHT NOW instead of searching for a piece of magic that will help you get pvssy.
>>Yes, more likely you would, but if your not getting the pvssy, doesn't it stand to reason you'll look for some answer to change that?

If you are an ugly fawk then do something about it. If you are a skinny fawk then do something about it. If you are a stupid fawk then read a book.
>>What if you're neither ugly, skinny, nor stupid? I realize these were just some examples given and not an all inclusive list of possible shortcomings. And even if you are, we see ugly, skinny, stupid guys get decent looking girls, so these may not be the real reason. The point is, you have to know where your shortcomings is to address it.

If your personality sucks then change it. Etc.
>>Personality might be the key fundamental problem right here. Can you really change your personality though? The big question is how and what would someone change their pesonality to to be more attractive to women.


That is the message in Pook's word's. Nobody said you have to become a titan.
>>I'm not sure what Pook's message is because his posts were too dramatic and verbose and I didn't read much of his stuff.

If you are an ugly, skinny, stupid fawk with the personality of a rock yes you CAN get laid. Its not going to be a regular thing for you and you are going to have to work very hard and be very persistent. Your standards are going to have to be pretty damn low and alcohol may be required.
>>This isn't too encouraging. I don't see how a person is suppose to make themself handsome, muscular, intelligent, AND change their personality, just so they don't have to lower their standards really low. Isn't this what the OP questioned, whether all this improvement was necessary?


Self Improvement = Attraction
>>Self Improvement=Self Improvement. There's no gaurantee of attraction unless you improve the the fundamantal reason one's not getting attraction.

Attraction = More Pvssy

Do the math buddy.

OK

MY points is self-improvement is an indirect and maybe a misfocused tactic for someone who's aim is getting pvssy. The focus should be on approaches and the interaction with the female target. I agree with Mr. Cardio, ASF is more focused on solving the problem of PU.

 

[FRëSHURE]

too many posts to read this all.

Aim for the stars. Maybe you fall short and finish at the moon. Aim for the clouds, you'll get to where you wanted but its nowhere near the moon.

I'm sure theres a proper quote for that, but I don't know it.

You don't need to be the man pook offers. But your better off trying to be him then trying to be that guy at the night club in the red shirt who picked up a pretty cute girl.

 

[Chillisauce]

Originally posted by backbreaker
first of all, most of you are missing the point.

DJing isnt' about.. well... just about.. getting women..
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LIke I said, sure, if getting laid is your only agenda, then no you don't have to go the self improvement "route".. but then again.. self improvement shouldn't be a "route" and if you have to improve yourself just to get women, then you are wasting your time improving yourself.

Women are a byproduct of being the best person you can possibly be, not the reason to be the best person you can possibly be.

Thanks for that BB, just what i needed to hear. If you can do it, so can I.

 

[Alicorn]

Necro Post!