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POF Experiment in the eyes of a female - 99% guys have no game

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Social_Leper said:
I might try POF again now that I'm not a 'Student' and have an actual job. Be interesting to see how differently women will react. If I suddenly start getting poon it'll on prove how calculating these girls on POF really are.
Don't hold your breath. Unless you're making $100,000+, having a good job and career means nothing. All this judgement coming from single moms and girls with no jobs too. :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

Online is the bottom of the barrel.
 

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I Really don't think it matters whethere you're a student or have a good job on POF.
 

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Online is the bottom of the barrel.
very true , I heard most women use POF to chat with men.and the ones go dates they look for sex or money not for"that one"

statistics : 30% of online dating women **** in the first date , so don't believe them when they try to make things not about sex and shame you because you are only looking for "that one thing"
 

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Bradd: Why do your "hot" friends date ugly to average women? I'm genuinely curious about this one. Most "hot" guys I was friends with had hot girlfriends. As did I. This was before I stopped caring obsessively about looks, and took myself away from that entire crowd. But definitely, all the hot people I knew at the time were with other hot people. Always. It's the whole league thing, and attracting what you are. A hot person feels instinctively compatible with another hot person, and for the most part, associates with that kind of person - be it guys or girls; friends or lovers. Hot people usually stick to their own crowds - as with other types, and theirs.

This has happened so many times, I can't even count them all. It was constant. Some of us (guys and girls) steered away from the hot ones from time to time, but that was only after realizing they were no good to partner up with. So, a lot of them would settle - and even describe it as such (without actually saying it). For instance, some girls would say they don't trust pretty boys; the charming, good-looking bad boys aren't relationship material; and ***** and whine and complain. But the point is, they still dated these types for a long time, and still obsessed about them.

Other than that - and this is actually a very, very common scenerio / reason - I have never seen a hot guy or girl not hook up with its equivalent. Like, ever. They almost always pair up with their type, and who they feel they can get.

So, explain.
 

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Im trying to learn game by observing successful Alpha Males.

I don't see anything wrong with that. That was what this whole experiment was for.
Your title of this thread: "POF Experiment in the eyes of a female -99% guys have no game." Just blew your other theory out of the water. As you've stated Asian men have it the hardest in previous threads. Did you manage to ONLY get messages from Asian males on POF? Or does this 99% make up MOSTLY white males? Or did you manage to make a graph on a chalkboard dividing every race that still = 99% of guys online have no game?

You can't have it both ways GSP. It's either MOST guys have no online game or game period or 'only Asian guys have it hardest'.

Your experiment has been done to death already. Wow. Women get tons of messages and most say 'hi'. SHOCKING.

Let's look at reality. Do you go into 'game' theatrics in trying to meet people in everyday life or TRY to act normal and say hello? That's what most people do.

Online may be different. But consider the women who need to use online dating. Do you think ANY of these chicks are worth being 'caught'?

Online dating is for hookups. NOT relationships. Unless you're desperate as hell to date the towns nutty cvmdumpster (hiding behind a thinly veiled 'princess' profile.)

You have much to learn grasshopper. And you're going to wind up learning the worst possible way if you take chicks who use online 'dating' seriously and end up in a relationship with your 'precious' white chick you've met off POF. Wise up. You've been warned.
 

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bradd80 said:
naughty ninja, of all your posts on the subject i think this is the single most intelligent one you've ever written. Perfect summary of what you should expect from online dating.

I've known full well what online 'dating' was about when I trollolololed POF. I never took ONE profile or 'pretty picture' to heart let alone giving a fvck if they responded. The dvmber/funnier without mentioning ANYTHING on their profile I sent...the more responses I got, kept it going into normal conversation for three to max four emails and got the number. As for wanting to meet any of those chicks? I've stated it many times before. I never bothered to meet them. I meet enough chicks in real life to ever take online 'dating' anything other than killing downtime and getting n00dz. If other dudes want to date complete loons and or ONS that risk high chances of catching STD's off some chick online. Go for it.


If anyone for one second thought I took POF as a way to meet quality chicks..I don't know what to tell you.
 

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I've known full well what online 'dating' was about when I trollolololed POF. I never took ONE profile or 'pretty picture' to heart let alone giving a fvck if they responded. The dvmber/funnier whitout mentioning ANYTHING on their profile I sent...the more responses I got, kept it going into normal conversation for three to max four emails and got the number. As for wanting to meet any of those chicks? I've stated it many times before. I never bothered to meet them. I meet enough chicks in real life to ever take online 'dating' anything other than killing downtime and getting n00dz. If other dudes want to date complete loons and or ONS that risk high chances of catching STD's off some chick online. Go for it.


If anyone for one second thought I took POF as a way to meet quality chicks..I don't know what to tell you.
Ninja, could the same not be said of chix that go to clubs or bars on friday or saturday night?

are those quality women?

So online is out of the question, clubs and bar scene is out of the question, the only thing left is social circle game.
 

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gspshields2 said:
Ninja, could the same not be said of chix that go to clubs or bars on friday or saturday night?

are those quality women?

So online is out of the question, clubs and bar scene is out of the question, the only thing left is social circle game.



Follow actions. Not words. Just because chicks go to a club doesn't make them all 'trash'. Anyone in their right mind knows you can't pigeonhole everyone in a club. It's something to do. Period.


I used to think clubs/bar scene was out of the question when I was younger. That was till my brother met my sister in law in a CLUB, dated her for ten years, got married and still are with two kids. Same with my friend. We met two chicks in a bar. He wound up getting married to the one he met years later in Italy. ( I was there as the main witness) And both of the two girls are really good catches. True story.

Get over yourself. Act NORMAL and be the best person you can be. Not some fraud "Alpha" PUA wannabe jackass and you'll meet someone who just may like you for you while you are the best person you can be. It's quite mind blowing for you to comprehend, I know.
 

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Follow actions. Not words. Just because chicks go to a club doesn't make them all 'trash'. Anyone in their right mind knows you can't pigeonhole everyone in a club. It's something to do. Period.


I used to think clubs/bar scene was out of the question when I was younger. That was till my brother met my sister in law in a CLUB, dated her for ten years, got married and still are with two kids. Same with my friend. We met two chicks in a bar. He wound up getting married to the one he met years later in Italy. ( I was there as the main witness) And both of the two girls are really good catches. True story.

Get over yourself. Act NORMAL and be the best person you can be. Not some fraud "Alpha" PUA wannabe jackass and you'll meet someone who just may like you for you while you are the best person you can be. It's quite mind blowing for you to comprehend, I know.

Ninja, you have given us a very wonderful guide to POF, but as you have said, you can't use these "theatrics" and "attention grabbing gimmicks" in the real world.

What is your advice for real world situations? (i.e. clubs/bars, social circle, mall/streets)

You have mentioned being "NORMAL", this is the equivalent of being normal on POF then you will not stand out. Im sure most people are NORMAL. Does that mean everyone that is NORMAL is ALPHA(for lack of a better word/desireable)? What will seperate you from the rest of the BETA NORMAL PEOPLE. How will you stand out and what will give you the edge over other dudes?

Thanks
 

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zekko said:
Why do so many guys on this site put up a woman's profile, pose as women, and chat with guys online? Doesn't anyone else find this a little disturbing? Is this something you would do?

Do you guys dress up as women and go hang out in the clubs and bars to see how many guys try to pick you up? Wtf.

I've looked at that POF site before, and I figure most of the decent looking pictures are posted by guys here pretending to be women.
Agreed completely.
This whole post is a little gay.
 

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Come on, give the guy a break. I understand trying to understand the other side of the spectrum. I probably wouldn't chat with the guys, but that's just me. I understand the experiment.

With that said, you're not telling us anything we don't already know. We know most guys don't have game. We know it's easier for a chick to get guys. A more worthwhile study would be to get a girl friend on POF and track HER interactions with men. What turns HER on? What gets her off? Why is she returning messages vs not returning them? Make it completely objective. If you can run this test, I will be impressed.
 

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Come on, give the guy a break. I understand trying to understand the other side of the spectrum. I probably wouldn't chat with the guys, but that's just me. I understand the experiment.

With that said, you're not telling us anything we don't already know. We know most guys don't have game. We know it's easier for a chick to get guys. A more worthwhile study would be to get a girl friend on POF and track HER interactions with men. What turns HER on? What gets her off? Why is she returning messages vs not returning them? Make it completely objective. If you can run this test, I will be impressed.
From talking with chicks online on POF. MANY and they are real profiles as I've gotten loads of pics (you can tell it's the real chick by the same self camera phone taken pic, their rooms are complete messes, and the fingernail polish isn't 'just done', as well as lighting isn't 'professional')..they like spankings, being lightly choked while getting it rough, being tossed around, eaten, fingered, some anal, playing with toys, and many (at least online) are bi-sexual or have experimented. It depends on who they're talking to and how you slowly amp them up will determine what they'll reveal and pics they'll send. And they do send multiple n00dz, camera phone vids using toys, talk dirty, like porn, want to skype (never skyped) nor called any of them. Trust me. Chicks online are straight up nymphos. No lie.
 

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bradd80 said:
floyd are you kidding? EVERYWHERE I GO I SEE NOTHING BUT HOT GIRLS WITH AVERAGE OR EVEN UGLY GUYS.

Floyd, the fact that you're even posting on a site dedicated to solving girl problems is representative of the fact that picking up girls isn't just as simple as "hot guys get hot girls and it's just that easy." If we lived in a perfect world, like people would indeed attract other like people. But look around next time you go out to a club or the mall.. how many hot girls are with hot guys? How many times have you asked yourself "what's she doing with that guy?" If life was fair and people got what they deserve then there would be no need for forums such as this trying to explain why women act so damn crazy.

Why do my friendsend up dating average looking women? Believe me it's almost certainly not by choice.. like me, they have banged hot women some of the hottest you'll ever see, but the're far to much trouble to deal with. I even talked about this on a recent thread, and brought up how even famous and wealthy good looking actors such as Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt, and Colin Farrell have a history of long term relationships with (at best) average looking women.
You're not making any sense, and this post is full of contradictions. First you said life is not fair, and suggested that looks dont determine success (or something like that). Then you said its not by choice. So far, so good. But then you said they hooked up with all these hot girls, and realized they were only good for sex, and caused too many problems, so they settled with average girls. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I JUST SAID EARLIER, which completely contradicts your other point. You say its not by choice - then turn around and say it is by choice. You're saying these guys DO get hot girls. Which is the point, and so is CHOOSING these average girls. Originally, you made it seem like they COULDN'T get these girls, and that's why I asked you to explain. Not that you did a good job of it, or anything.:down:

As for this site: I don't use it to learn techniques, or whatever. Just give advice, share experiences, and discuss topics of interest. Its not an issue of having no success, and coming here for help and guidance. I observe and comment. Same with a lot of sites - not related to dating or women at all. Just a hobby, really.
 

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From talking with chicks online on POF. MANY and they are real profiles as I've gotten loads of pics (you can tell it's the real chick by the same self camera phone taken pic, their rooms are complete messes, and the fingernail polish isn't 'just done', as well as lighting isn't 'professional')..they like spankings, being lightly choked while getting it rough, being tossed around, eaten, fingered, some anal, playing with toys, and many (at least online) are bi-sexual or have experimented. It depends on who they're talking to and how you slowly amp them up will determine what they'll reveal and pics they'll send. And they do send multiple n00dz, camera phone vids using toys, talk dirty, like porn, want to skype (never skyped) nor called any of them. Trust me. Chicks online are straight up nymphos. No lie.

Dude I'm about to ask you to set up a profile for me just so I can get some nudies. I don't get much into online game, but if it's that easy for a ONS I'm all about it.
 

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Dude I'm about to ask you to set up a profile for me just so I can get some nudies. I don't get much into online game, but if it's that easy for a ONS I'm all about it.

You better look damn good in your pictures, and have some hidden shirtless beach or gym pics (shirtless gets you deleted. You hide them from the profile and send them in your intro email) and you better be able to talk or forget it.

Chicks are more likely to send them at night after you slowly escalate in between conversation and say things in a certain way (not outright sexual) to start turning them on.

Mixing in the sentences "I'm home relaxing and bored" and "I want to meet cool people and have some fun." are some of the subtle code words depending on how good you look and can talk that will start getting them in the mood to chat more and they'll take the cue to give their number. Then amp up a bit (if you don't ever plan on meeting them for sex) sexual texting and send them a pic of you IF YOU LOOK DAMN GOOD SHIRTLESS and usually they'll send back something 'special'. ;)


Incognito is straight up BEASTING it with replies off the copy paste I made up. Hell I saw replies off his headline ALONE. And the chicks he's getting replies from are pretty damn good looking as well as numbers. That dude took the advice and is running like a bull with it! Hahahaha!

The headline I used is:" Help! I'm being held hostage in a Starbucks! :run: " The :run: on POF shows a emoticon smiley running from a crowd. A few chicks responded off his headline alone. He needs to update us on any meets if he's had time.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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You better look damn good in your pictures, and have some hidden shirtless beach or gym pics (shirtless gets you deleted. You hide them from the profile and send them in your intro email) and you better be able to talk or forget it.

Chicks are more likely to send them at night after you slowly escalate in between conversation and say things in a certain way (not outright sexual) to start turning them on.

Mixing in the sentences "I'm home relaxing and bored" and "I want to meet cool people and have some fun." are some of the subtle code words depending on how good you look and can talk that will start getting them in the mood to chat more and they'll take the cue to give their number. Then amp up a bit (if you don't ever plan on meeting them for sex) sexual texting and send them a pic of you IF YOU LOOK DAMN GOOD SHIRTLESS and usually they'll send back something 'special'. ;)


Incognito is straight up BEASTING it with replies off the copy paste I made up. Hell I saw replies off his headline ALONE. And the chicks he's getting replies from are pretty damn good looking as well as numbers. That dude took the advice and is running like a bull with it! Hahahaha!

The headline I used is:" Help! I'm being held hostage in a Starbucks! :run: " The :run: on POF shows a emoticon smiley running from a crowd. A few chicks responded off his headline alone. He needs to update us on any meets if he's had time.
I'll bite, Ninja. You do profiles, right? I'll do an experiment of my own. I wouldn't like people knowing what I look like and such, so I'll just ask you for some canned material and set up my own profile. PM me a headline and the rest of the necessary material and I will track my progress in a thread. Whenever you get a chance, of course. I would consider myself a 7-8. Luckily for me I played football in college (skill position) so I have maintained a nice body and have plenty of pictures. I will put your theories to the test.
 

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SoSuave666 said:
I'll bite, Ninja. You do profiles, right? I'll do an experiment of my own. I wouldn't like people knowing what I look like and such, so I'll just ask you for some canned material and set up my own profile. PM me a headline and the rest of the necessary material and I will track my progress in a thread. Whenever you get a chance, of course. I would consider myself a 7-8. Luckily for me I played football in college (skill position) so I have maintained a nice body and have plenty of pictures. I will put your theories to the test.

Set up a quick profile. type in sososodpdokd for headline and eoekememormrr till your about me is filled up a bit for the system to take it. PM me your username and password. It'll take me two minutes to have the whole thing done. Then leave it and I'll tell you what to send for a first message. It's easy work when you know how to play the game. Take NOTHING and NO ONE to heart on there. Don't 'fall in love' with pretty pictures nor profile fluff nor even talking to chicks. Play the "I believe everything you say game". If a chick was truly worth it she wouldn't be caught dead on POF looking for a relationship. No joke.
 

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Set up a quick profile. type in sososodpdokd for headline and eoekememormrr till your about me is filled up a bit for the system to take it. PM me your username and password. It'll take me two minutes to have the whole thing done. Then leave it and I'll tell you what to send for a first message. It's easy work when you know how to play the game. Take NOTHING and NO ONE to heart on there. Don't 'fall in love' with pretty pictures nor profile fluff nor even talking to chicks. Play the "I believe everything you say game". If a chick was truly worth it she wouldn't be caught dead on POF looking for a relationship. No joke.
I hear you brother. I'll set it up in the morning, time for bed. The red eye got me feeling like sh!t. I'll PM you in the morn.
 

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Bradd: that's all I wanted to know. So, we basically agree. I wasn't seeing where you coming from the first time. I was under the impression that, you were suggesting good looking guys CAN'T get hot girls - not that average ones can. Just a mix up based on lack of clarification.
 

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If a chick was truly worth it she wouldn't be caught dead on POF looking for a relationship. No joke.
Dead on.

Reasonably attractive women (not even hot women) get hit on in: *drum roll*

1) supermarkets
2) buses
3) subways
4) clubs/bars
5) restaurants
6) on the streets
7) at work
8) in parks
9) through friends
10) in school
11) in libraries
12) in bookstores
13) on trains
14) in planes
15) farmers markets
16) amusement parks

LOOK DO I NEED TO FUVKING CONTINUE?


There is absolutely NO reason, EVER. And I mean EVER. For a SOMEWHAT attractive girl to.

EVER.

EVER.

Need to go online unless she is severely dysfunctional as a human being or is working in a town of 80 people where almost everyone is a family member.

So what type of girls are online?

1) Ugly girls
2) Plain Janes
3) attractive but psychotic girls
4) completely delusional girls who won't settle within their own league
5) cheaters full of drama just looking for the next best thing
6) attention wh0res
7) single mothers (how could I forget this one!?!)

That's it folks. No need to thank me for saving you time that would have been wasted online.

Sarge offline.

Peace.


Edit: The above generalization is 99% true. There are SOME exceptions. My friend married a girl who was a flight attendant off of POF. It is hard for a girl to get a stable relationship when she's in a different country 4 nights a week. This occurrence was several years ago though. Online dating and especially POF was much better 6+ years ago. So if you want to spends hours a day trying to find the 1% online, go ahead. But don't b1tch and moan about your girl problems with online dating. You have been warned.
 
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