PlentyOfLove v. 3.0 was born today

PlentyOfLove

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Hello gents,

This thread will be a diary for me. I'll be updating it occasionally, but not too frequently. More than anything, it will be a stamp in my forehead. Something to slap me in the face if I start to slip up. Something to pat me in the back when I'm doing good. The good thing is, I'm sober when writing this. So far, when I've made promises to myself, I've usually been drunk/surging from some sudden boost in dedication, that usually fades with the hangover.

You see, from last tuesday to now, something started to develop inside of me. First it just felt like an enormous boost in motivation, but I couldn't put my finger on it. I didn't know what it was, though I knew full well WHY it happened. A girl that I was supposed to go out with didn't call at the time she promised she would, and I felt really bad about it. So I took a walk. "Why the heck do I feel bad? I shouldn't, just NEXT her." She called me about 20 minutes late, still wanting to go out, but that's not important. It's what I realized when I thought she would blow me off.

I've met the girl I want. I have been spinning plates, acting like I give a damn about any of them, but it just isn't true. If that makes me an AFC, then so be it. I want this gal, and I'll be damned if I won't get her. I can look at this from a fully objective perspective. She isn't perfect. I recognize all her faults, all her shortcomings, from her lack of confidence to her somewhat chubby body to her annoying whining to her passivity. But when I see a job or an occupation I want, I go out and take it. When I see a watch or a shirt I want I buy it, come hell or high water. And when I feel this strongly about someone, I feel I'd be lying to myself if I didn't throw everything I've got at her.

As a matter of fact, three threads I've started here are about her. No point in trying to hide it.

www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=194972
www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=195122
www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=195419

This doesn't mean I'll drop at her feet and beg her to love me. It doesn't mean I'll stop being myself, and it doesn't mean I'll drown her in affection. Quite the opposite. Today I made three important decisions:

1) I will bulk up. I can't change my height (~ 175-178cm / 5'10"-5'11"), but I can change what this height consists of. I've done serious training before, I've done sports all my life, but I'm still skinny as heck. Nothing I can do about it, or so I thought. My usual excuse has been "My body is this way, and I just can't gain weight. If someone doesn't like it, then I don't need 'em."

In reality, I've been half-assed about my efforts to bulk up. It will change. I have a training schedule and a diet lined up, and I will follow them to the letter. No more excuses, I will bulk up, so she doesn't have to worry about being heavier than me (the fact that I can already lift her up like it's nothing doesn't seem to matter).

2) I will change my lifestyle. I won't stop going out, I won't stop drinking, I won't stop smoking cigars, and I won't stop playing games/eating what I want to. But I will balance it. Drink less, smoke less, go out more but mix it up, instead of hitting the terrace every day. Play less games, hit the gym more often. Less masturbating. 3 times a week at most (a big change for me; hopefully resulting in me feel manlier still). Clean this place up; starting today. Throw out everything I don't need. Purchase things that help me reach my goals, and things that help me stay motivated.

A car, and a suit or two for starters.

3) Man the fvck up. I'm already an alpha as far as my position amongst my peers go (I lead, others follow), but I've been far too half-assed about my money, about my property, about my job, about my hobbies, about my passions, and about my love life. No more of this kiddy $hit, time to take the bull by the horns and become a real man.

The reason for this decision coming now are multiple. The main one would be the fact that this girl in question will probably leave the town for at least three months, once summer ends. She will be back here though, and once she returns, I'll be a better man, physically and mentally. I always move forwards in life, in a pace much faster than most, but there are still some seriously lacking areas I will HAVE to improve, since I figure the only way I'm going to get what I want is by improving.

If she should come back with a boyfriend, so be it. If I should come across someone who I fall for, so be it. If I lose interest in her, so be it. If PlentyOfLove v. 3.0 isn't good enough, so be it. At least I will know I made the effort. I won't stop spinning plates. I won't start chasing her. I've read the material, and I won't revert back into a chump. Never. I will improve further. I will evolve. What will keep me going is the fact that we WILL end up together. It might be through 20 other girls and guys, but it doesn't matter. We will be the ones left standing once the smoke clears. I will pull away, to be able to reel her in. Only way to have her is to let her go, and start over from scratch further down the road.

So there. If you want to make fun of me for not being willing to just ditch her as damaged goods, feel free to. I know what I want, and what I have to do to want it. And it starts now, with me throwing away all the clothes and cr4p I don't need, or that pull me down. Cleaning this place comes second. Tomorrow, my training regimen will start, as will my new diet and, step by step, life as a new me, romanticized as it may be.

We'll see if we're together once the year turns to 2013. If not, then so be it. I'll be a better man, and truly able to say YOUR LOSS, LADY.

And, to end a corny and cliche ridden post in a fitting manner, our cliched ending: Our song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mifhifbByHk
 

marmel75

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One of my biggest rules was that I could never date a girl that weighed more than I did...just never found heavy girls attractive at all...that is just me tjo
 

Skalioppe

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Why do you want her back? Manning up means making all of these positive changes for you and for someone brand new on the horizon. Not for her!

I think you have oneitis....
 

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Everyone wants to be big, but noone wants to lift no heavy a@@ weights...
 

PlentyOfLove

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Skalioppe said:
Why do you want her back? Manning up means making all of these positive changes for you and for someone brand new on the horizon. Not for her!

I think you have oneitis....
Of course it's for me, not for her. I realize full well that we might not end up together. I'd say it's more likely, even. That's not the point. The point is, since starting to read through the DJ material and starting to grow into one, I've been taught not to dwell on one woman, but to jump from woman to woman, looking for a great one.

That's not me. I don't jump from one thing to another at the first obstacle, I go for what I want, and I want her. She wants me as well (so I'm not going after a cold turkey here, either), but to get her to want me MORE than I want her I'll have to improve, so I will. If we don't end up together, at least I know I made the effort, and then I can go for the next one. And if the next one should bump into me among the way, so be it. If nothing comes of this besides me ending up bulkier and manlier, more power to me. I would never change for worse or do things I wouldn't otherwise want to do to get a woman of any kind, but these are things I want to do in any case. Now is just the perfect time to start.

If going after her is a mistake then it's my mistake to make. But whatever the case, I will come out better than going in. Hopefully with her, but maybe with someone else. Time will tell.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Man, you're going to fail. Come next year, you'll still be skinny as fvck, poor as a motherfvcker, and still a virginfag.

Watch.

Actually, you wont even last a month.
 

SoSuave666

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PlentyOfLove said:
Of course it's for me, not for her. I realize full well that we might not end up together. I'd say it's more likely, even. That's not the point. The point is, since starting to read through the DJ material and starting to grow into one, I've been taught not to dwell on one woman, but to jump from woman to woman, looking for a great one.

That's not me. I don't jump from one thing to another at the first obstacle, I go for what I want, and I want her. She wants me as well (so I'm not going after a cold turkey here, either), but to get her to want me MORE than I want her I'll have to improve, so I will. If we don't end up together, at least I know I made the effort, and then I can go for the next one. And if the next one should bump into me among the way, so be it. If nothing comes of this besides me ending up bulkier and manlier, more power to me. I would never change for worse or do things I wouldn't otherwise want to do to get a woman of any kind, but these are things I want to do in any case. Now is just the perfect time to start.

If going after her is a mistake then it's my mistake to make. But whatever the case, I will come out better than going in. Hopefully with her, but maybe with someone else. Time will tell.
The problem with this kind of thinking is that you've already put not only this girl, but your future relationship with her on a pedestal. I mean look how much you are talking about a relationship that doesn't exist, and one--by your own admission--that is doomed to fail. You are setting yourself up for oneitis failure just by writing this kind of sh!t down.

The goal for you SHOULD be to improve. For that you are commended. You are going about this is the wrong way though. Imagine what you're saying: "I'm going to improve myself for this girl in every way possible. I will become bigger, stronger, wealthier, smarter, etc because it's what I've read attracts women." What happens when this chick doesn't bite? You will think to yourself that all the DJ stuff is BS because it didn't work on a relationship that was doomed for failure from the beginning because you are breaking the cardinal rule of catching oneitis and caring FAR more than she does. You can't win in this situation. No matter how long you try to fake it, you can't win.

Drop off the grid from this chick my man. You need to tone down the neediness big time. If we can sense it through an internet forum, this chick can sense it from 100000 miles away, which ironically is EXACTLY where she will be for 3 months. Improve for your own self satisfaction, not for hers.
 

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juicywa said:
Man, you're going to fail. Come next year, you'll still be skinny as fvck, poor as a motherfvcker, and still a virginfag.

Watch.

Actually, you wont even last a month.
Nope. The only way to fail is to give up, which I have never been very good at. And which, ironically, is what you guys are telling me to do, even though I realize it's for my own good.

@SoSuave666

I had her on a pedestal before. It was build on nothing but what I hoped she would be. That pedestal broke, and so did my oneitis for her. But I fell for her again, this time for actual reasons. There are no pedestals. I know what she is like, and from having spent so much time with her, I know what we would be like together.

I KNOW DJ stuff works. It's worked for me. I pull much more women now than before, despite the fact that I have tons more to learn. And I'm not even here to get more women; I'm here to become what I want to be. Getting women is the result, not the reason.

If it's a mistake, it's my mistake to make. Rejection is better than regret (something I've learned during my life), and the only way to fail is to not try. If the situation with her was me going after her like crazy and not getting anything back I wouldn't do it, because I'm not stupid. I'm not blinded by my oneitis or whateveritis, and I'm not jumping through any hoops. Never will.

You're right about the other stuff, though. Making this thread was probably a bad idea, since I know full well the way I see the world is different from you guys, despite the fact that our goal is the same: top. I appreciate the fact that people here aren't afraid to say what they honestly think, but frankly it's not going to change anything. I'm too thick headed and stubborn to not follow through with what I said. So I will write a journal, but not here. Privately. Something to help me keep track of my progress, or lack thereof. Something to look back to once I've reached my goals. Which I will, because I said so.

Sorry and thanks.
 
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