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I'm pretty much through with this site...tried every angle I could think of, including some of the ones in here. I would say 75% get read & deleted, 20% get read & no response. I got two Facebook adds, but have been completely ignored since then.

I think my geographic base is a problem right now...I'm kinda out in the country and there's not much to choose from, even from 50 miles away or so. Just gotta intensify my day game once I get my routine settled a bit more.
 

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Good to hear you guys are getting some results. the other poster COD has some funny intro emails too. As long as you can go off of the first and into other light hearted funny replies, exchanges etc it should be all good. Remember. It takes only TWO people to not like them and report you and you get lbeled as a spammer or an antagonist and you're outta there. I haven't set up a new account as of yet but honestly with all the replies I got bored trying to respond and remember all of them. Still keep in contact with six of them every so often. Will meet some of them when I get time. My home area of NY most seem to be more open from different areas as it's "safe" for them. But I will meet them if I get the chance in the future. Real life meeting people is my main priority. Make online second. Haven't been on here in a bit as I honestly got kindof bored of threads on here. Will be back in Florida in a few weeks but family and friends has me running around when I'm there (plus going out..lol) I'm meeting two down there this time. In Nov more. Let us all know how your experiences turn out dudes!
 

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JCballin88 said:
I'm pretty much through with this site...tried every angle I could think of, including some of the ones in here. I would say 75% get read & deleted, 20% get read & no response. I got two Facebook adds, but have been completely ignored since then.

I think my geographic base is a problem right now...I'm kinda out in the country and there's not much to choose from, even from 50 miles away or so. Just gotta intensify my day game once I get my routine settled a bit more.
Again, take this as a conversation builder. Work on funny things to say and interesting topics for real meets in real life. It's true what people say...Most are single mom's and or psychotic daydreamers with boyfriends or just getting over breakups for an ego boost. If you like those types go for them. If not practice. You really get to see the mindset of people online. I don't take it seriously. Neither should anyone or you're in for a load of surprises.
 
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I also almost NEVER read their profile "resumes". Why? Because I waited for a RESPONSE to my initial email FIRST. Everyone basically says the same crap online and who in baby Jesus name knows what they are like in REAL LIFE anyway? We're all net "superstars" but have our own REALITIES in life. I decide whether the conversation keeps on going. So should you. DO NOT TAKE ONLINE AS THE END ALL BE ALL. Just a tool to work on GAME, converstion skills and possibly...POSSIBLY meeting someone or many someones. If you rely on meeting someone online and not in real life you'll be stuck on this site for life as well.
 

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so, less than 20 % results............and U actually think HE is the correct in his thinking.

REALITY...........right now he and a few others ARE IN FACT TRYING MY "GOT SOME BAD NEWS FOR YOU"...........headline.........with great success, I am sure.

WHY.........cause it works.........much more quicker, accurate and RAKES IN RESULTS far better then any "does your boyfriend know" bs line.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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Nice try CODfish but no ones buying it.

I like to make up my own when I go on Plenty O' Fishsticks. I'm not on there now. May go back in the future when I feel like it.
 

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COD said:
so, less than 20 % results............and U actually think HE is the correct in his thinking.

REALITY...........right now he and a few others ARE IN FACT TRYING MY "GOT SOME BAD NEWS FOR YOU"...........headline.........with great success, I am sure.

WHY.........cause it works.........much more quicker, accurate and RAKES IN RESULTS far better then any "does your boyfriend know" bs line.

Lol not gonna lie I did use dis opener so far da whole day.. Go a few responses sayin dats cute, one said dat she was confused.. Den i jus spit my game so we'll see if dat works out.. I used to use pof for a long time.. Had 3 girlfriends from dat site.. 1 girl she was a 8.5 but she lived 2 hours from me so it eventually broke up within a few months.. Others was basically jus one night stands...


Let me say this.. I messaged at least ova a 1000 within 2 years.. Got laid wit 3 girls from it lmao... N I look good n have game but prolly cuz i don't have alot of pics on my page.. I mean I got 5 pics but it's jus wit myself n wit none of my friends or girls so dats prolly da main reason..

All I all i rather b real good in real life and is more satisfying getting girls in real life den online.. But for a busy person like me online would b a great tool for me to get girls.. Does anyone know any openers to cut da spam from craiglist?? Cuz it seems like every post I get from craiglist is spam lol some girl sendin me messages sayin go to their websit
 

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YoungSir4sho said:
Let me say this.. I messaged at least ova a 1000 within 2 years.. Got laid wit 3 girls from it lmao... N I look good n have game
You definitely don't look as good to the girls your messaging as you think you do. What do you look like? Height/build/color/style
 

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YoungSir4sho said:
Lol not gonna lie I did use dis opener so far da whole day.. Go a few responses sayin dats cute, one said dat she was confused.. Den i jus spit my game so we'll see if dat works out.. I used to use pof for a long time.. Had 3 girlfriends from dat site.. 1 girl she was a 8.5 but she lived 2 hours from me so it eventually broke up within a few months.. Others was basically jus one night stands...


Let me say this.. I messaged at least ova a 1000 within 2 years.. Got laid wit 3 girls from it lmao... N I look good n have game but prolly cuz i don't have alot of pics on my page.. I mean I got 5 pics but it's jus wit myself n wit none of my friends or girls so dats prolly da main reason..

All I all i rather b real good in real life and is more satisfying getting girls in real life den online.. But for a busy person like me online would b a great tool for me to get girls.. Does anyone know any openers to cut da spam from craiglist?? Cuz it seems like every post I get from craiglist is spam lol some girl sendin me messages sayin go to their websit

Why do you type like a fool?
 

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When I say a 1000 course I don't literally mean it.. Prolly messaged like 500 if that.. Cuz there are alot of fat n ugly single moms out there.. I'm picky so I go after only da best ones..

Here's my profile but don't quote dis message cuz I'm gonna edit dis message out in a few hours.. Jus want to show u guys my profile fo alil bit n show u wat I'm talkin bout.. N believe me I kno I look good to alot of girls cuz they tell me dat n I get dat look in person it's jus dat I don't put it to action.. N I'm not conceited jus bein r
 
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You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I've heard Joran Van Der Sloot is starting his own online dating site: "Sleep with the fishes". Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk.
 

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Naughty Ninja said:
I've heard Joran Van Der Sloot is starting his own online dating site: "Sleep with the fishes". Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk.

Joran Van Der Sloot actually started a real site called "my ass is getting ripped open like a ripe watermelon in the summertime in a peruvian prison"
 

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YoungSir4sho said:
When I say a 1000 course I don't literally mean it.. Prolly messaged like 500 if that.. Cuz there are alot of fat n ugly single moms out there.. I'm picky so I go after only da best ones..

Here's my profile but don't quote dis message cuz I'm gonna edit dis message out in a few hours.. Jus want to show u guys my profile fo alil bit n show u wat I'm talkin bout.. N believe me I kno I look good to alot of girls cuz they tell me dat n I get dat look in person it's jus dat I don't put it to action.. N I'm not conceited jus bein r
What sort of girls are you interested in? Cultural background/body type.... Your obviously urban so that'll have a huge impact on the types of women you'll get.
 

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I'm a good-looking guy, so naturally, my pics spawn emails from both old and young. Outside of POF I'm seeing multiple women, so when one From POF messages me, "Do you have any fun plans for the weekend?" I say Yes I do have fun plans. I can't just cancel them for some new inquiry, so she is going to have to wait, maybe even 2-3 weeks. I currently have a 20 yr old Jewish girl who is dying to meet me, but I can't, I'm already seeing other more petite girls.

I hardly ever contact a girl on POF. They look at my profile and they hardly ever contact me. I'll banter back and forth, but if I sense an off attitude, I won't message her again. Sometimes I'll say, "Fine, how was you're week? Any plans for the weekend...any boyzzz?" I don't care if I piss one off either. I just say what I want to say and be myself.
 

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I've banged about 10 girls over the years from POF. I've sent out probably a thousand initial emails. Well maybe not that many. Maybe more like 800.

I agree with the OP on most points but have a different strategy. I don't send out copy and paste, I read the profile and make a piquant one-sentence "neg" comment on something on the profile. The more I can rouse her up the more likely I am to get a response. Probably 8 out of 10 are deleted by the girl, 1 is a response that doesn't lead to something, and 1 is a response that leads to more emailing.

It's at this point that I start to screen and 80% of this 1 out of 10 (so 80% of 10%, 0.8%) I don't follow up with. The other 20% of the 1 out of 10 (0.2%) I do and maybe half of those I sleep with. So my lay-rate is about 1%.

That a pretty accurate breakdown of my luck on POF. It doesn't take a lot of money but it takes a whole lot of TIME.

Personally, once I send a message I go into the sent-messages folder and delete my copy of the email. This way I don't get discouraged by all the "read deleted" and "unread deleted"s.

I've also found that it doesn't matter--at least for my overall lay rate--what I write on my profile. Pretty much the same percentage of women are receptive, no matter what it says. I change my profile all the time to experiment and have written it all, from "I'm looking for casual sex" to "I'm not interested in sex at all" and get the same response rate *and the same lay rate.* Very strange.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Zarky said:
I've banged about 10 girls over the years from POF. I've sent out probably a thousand initial emails. Well maybe not that many. Maybe more like 800.

I agree with the OP on most points but have a different strategy. I don't send out copy and paste, I read the profile and make a piquant one-sentence "neg" comment on something on the profile. The more I can rouse her up the more likely I am to get a response. Probably 8 out of 10 are deleted by the girl, 1 is a response that doesn't lead to something, and 1 is a response that leads to more emailing.

It's at this point that I start to screen and 80% of this 1 out of 10 (so 80% of 10%, 0.8%) I don't follow up with. The other 20% of the 1 out of 10 (0.2%) I do and maybe half of those I sleep with. So my lay-rate is about 1%.

That a pretty accurate breakdown of my luck on POF. It doesn't take a lot of money but it takes a whole lot of TIME.

Personally, once I send a message I go into the sent-messages folder and delete my copy of the email. This way I don't get discouraged by all the "read deleted" and "unread deleted"s.

I've also found that it doesn't matter--at least for my overall lay rate--what I write on my profile. Pretty much the same percentage of women are receptive, no matter what it says. I change my profile all the time to experiment and have written it all, from "I'm looking for casual sex" to "I'm not interested in sex at all" and get the same response rate *and the same lay rate.* Very strange.
Have you tried photoshopping 6 pack abs on you? I like much older women so I put my profile at age 41 (Shoulda used 45). Works much better than when it was at age 23.
 

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I always get results on that site... Honestly It really is based on how you look... You have to have some nice pictures of yourself...... The success depends on how good you look and your profile description.... And what you say is all BS... You can say anything and get them as long as your interesting,,, I mean think about it... They are there to find guys... The job is already done...
 

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I've had email convos with about 20 girls so far and not one date. Obviously there are many things that can go wrong. So I am learning about how not to do those things through trial and error.

I usually send out a one liner and if they're cool then start up a longer conversation. If I can't find anything to comment on I just say hey what's up I think you're cute. And this has actually gotten a good response rate.

After 3 emails I either ask them out or ask for contact info, so I don't get strung along. This has gone ok in most cases but still things can go wrong, like they don't respond to texts, etc. Pursuing multiple girls helps to not take it all personally.

My goal is basically to fill out my social calendar more with girls I wouldn't be embarrassed to go out with. But so far they are not very willing to go along with this.
 

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omkara said:
I've had email convos with about 20 girls so far and not one date. Obviously there are many things that can go wrong. So I am learning about how not to do those things through trial and error.

I usually send out a one liner and if they're cool then start up a longer conversation. If I can't find anything to comment on I just say hey what's up I think you're cute. And this has actually gotten a good response rate.

After 3 emails I either ask them out or ask for contact info, so I don't get strung along. This has gone ok in most cases but still things can go wrong, like they don't respond to texts, etc. Pursuing multiple girls helps to not take it all personally.

My goal is basically to fill out my social calendar more with girls I wouldn't be embarrassed to go out with. But so far they are not very willing to go along with this.
Like I said above, it's all about pics. Photoshop yourself to be sexier, 6 pak and all.
 
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