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[PuertoRican_Lover]

So the drama continues, does it fancy?

Go up to her and say, "I hear that you are available to men now" and then grab her and force her body into yours with your strong masculine arms wrapped around her and give her a heartfelt longing kiss that will show your desire for her.

Then say, "won't you be my lady?"

 

[FancyPants]

Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
So the drama continues, does it fancy?

Go up to her and say, "I hear that you are available to men now" and then grab her and force her body into yours with your strong masculine arms wrapped around her and give her a heartfelt longing kiss that will show your desire for her.

Then say, "won't you be my lady?"

Ok the thing is I never heard from either of them for months. Now she is single which is what I want right? All throught this post I was told anything good she did meant nothing because she was not single. Well there is No other reason that I can come up with for me to be told that she is now single except for me to be with her. Now If I can't get a date or sex from her then I will not be there to provide attention for her. PuertoRican_Lover in one of the first replies in this post you said " If you mess with her you're in for a dangerous fall" what does that mean? I want something from this woman either date, realatioship sex will I get any of this ?

 

[am4591]

If you do anything with her, just keep in mind what went on before. Don't let her jerk you around or just use you to get attention or to spend your money on her.

 

[wolfie]

Fancypants you seem to have this mindset where you try to rationalise everything that happens into some way of helping you get this girl. Everything we tell you ends up in your mind being juggled around, and then spat back out in the form of "Ok, so if you told me all this stuff, how do I get her?"
Have you tried seeing other women?

$10 says you're back here within 2 weeks with a "Help guys, she did xxx but it she said xxx and it seemed that she wanted xxx.. I'm so confused.." post.

 

[FancyPants]

Ok here is how it is. What is this website for? To help guys get woman right!!! I come here read the bible try to practice what I have read. Maybe I didn't do such a good job practicing what I have read in the bible I don't know. I.E. She asks me to watch her kid. I laugh at her and tell her no. She tells me to go pick her out some new shoes I tell her No that she should be picking me out shoes. I don't know if she was serious or this was tests. Both things I may have done before I found this site. I developed A One-its Bad I know !!! I come to this website to ask for help, which I know nobody here owes me but I hope somebody does help me. First I get tons of "I didn't read your whole post but she was playing you" Ok I think to myself how can somebody who doesn't even know the whole story make a judgment. Then I get comments such as "If you mess with this woman you're in for a dangerous fall" "what she did with you went way beyond attention whhoring". So I ask what do they mean by those things " I am trying to learn" I get nothing back!!!

So I am suppose to learn something from here. I ask beg and plead tell me tell me. I get nothing!!! Then the name calling starts by a guy who should be alot more mature then he is acting at his age. So I do 2 things 1. add him to my ignore list so I don't read his name calling and 2. Discount anything he ever said in the past because how can you trust a person that immature at his age who resorts to name calling? If you don't like me think I am an idiot don't reply to my posts its that simple. But he has a burning desire to respond I guess the thought of a high post count makes him happy.

All I want to know is the why's of things!!! You learn things through you're whole life!! I am trying to learn and I get No explaination from most of the people. You have a kid you tell them don't touch a hot stove then you explain to the kid that he/she will get burnt and it hurts. So the kid understands why he/she can't touch a hot stove. I ask the why's of things and all I get is she is playing you "just don't touch the stove" . So I am left with nothing other than she played me. So I think geez how will I know next time if a woman is playing me? Answer I will not because most of the people will not explain themselves to me!!!

Now I don't believe that she was playing me just to have her ego stroked!!! I do believe that she did mess with me some. Now here are a few of many things that make me not believe she was playing me to stroke her ego. 1. She was upset when she found out that I live with my family 2. She cared that I was going to college and/or trying to get a better job. those are 2 things that somebody who strictly wants you to stroke their ego would careless about!!! 3. She seemed upset when she found out I have kids.

Now I get a SMS telling me she is now single. I post it here asking what are the possible meanings and again it goes totally unanswered!

BTW Thanks to the guys who did explain themselves to me I appreciate it.

 

[BrWnSugaMan]

FancyPants is right if you don't have anything constructive to say then don't reply.

First of all, I did read your entire post.

Let's analyze your situation:

1.) You said... "she has a serious boyfriend who supports her and a daughter by him."

-When she asked you to babysit her daughter, this was a test to whether or not you would be willing to take the place of her boyfriend and support her daughter if you two ever became a couple. She is a single woman and it is difficult to raise a daughter and herself on a single paycheck. There is no way that she would be willing to dump her current boyfriend who supports both her and her daughter for you because you demonstrated to her that you were not willing to support her daughter. This all works in her subconcious. You not wanting to babysit her daughter was a signal that you would not be willing to support her daughter if you and her got together.

2.) Her constantly talking about sex with you was an extremely good signal.

3.) Her boss told you that Diane and her current boyfriend would not last because he felt sorry for you and wanted to boost your spirits. He felt sorry for you because she told him that you would not come over because you felt awkward around her boyfriend. By telling you that they would not last, he hoped to boost your hopes. He felt your pain and tried to help the best he could.

4.)You said... "she says "I am head over heels over you
if I could ever cheat on my boyfriend It would be with you.

- She is giving you a line a bull. "If I could ever..." If she really cared about you then she would drop her current boyfriend and get with you. What is preventing her from getting with you if she likes you so much? Nothing.

5.) Living with your mom definately her your potential chances with her. She wants a man that can support both her and her daughter (reference #1 above). If you are still living with your mom there is no way that you can support yourself, her, or her daughter.

6.) She wanted to know whether or not you were in school not because she cared but because if you were then you would not be able to support her or her daughter. If you are in school that means (1) you need to pay tuition (2) you are not making a enough money to support her or her daughter. You should of asked her what her boyfriend did for a living? If he can support himself, her, and her daughter this means that he earns alot more than you. If she works at your job then she probably has a good idea how much you earn which is less than her boyfriend. This hurts you.

7.) I don't think she was intentionally playing with you because she did way too many nice things. Also, eating with you is a very good sign.

8.) I definately think that Julie liked you and she was also jealous that you liked Diane and not her. She figured that if she could not have you then no one could so she said bad things about you to Diane to convince Diane to not talk to you anymore. She did this so she would have a better chance with you. Why do you think she kept your number and called you? Also, whenever she saw you a purposelly talked about Diane this was her (Julie) trying to associate herself more with Diane and thus make you like her. This works deep down in her subconcious and she did not do it on purpose.

9.) Diane moved to a better job. Whenever women make big changes in their lives like moving to a new city, a new job, etc they like to leave the old bagage behind. That is one reason that contributed to her not calling you. Second, she made more money than you at her new job. This definately hurt you also because it means that she has become better able to support her and her daughter but you still are not able. Her boyfriend can do a better job. Third, she may of found some new guy at her work to flirt with.

You said... "MY whole point behind all of this is I am very confused on what Diane's intentions were? Was she trying to
play with my head did she actually like me like she said she did? or what was her motives???"


THE ANSWER TO YOUR BIG QUESTION: Did she like you? Yes. BUT, you didn't pass all of her tests so she moved on. It is obvious that she did like you because she put way too much effort into it just to be a tease. Teases don't go as far as she did. Just live and learn man. We all makes mistakes, just learn from this mistake and try to do better next time.

ONE FINAL THOUGHT: Remember when she said that if you two were jsut alone and things started she wouldn't stop it? You should of acted on this and arranged a time for both of you to be alone and then make some moves on her and this way you could test whether she was trying to play you or not.

 

[FancyPants]

Thank you so much BrWnSugaMan for spelling it out for me!!!!
Diane= The chick I want
Julie= The annoying friend of Diane's

Julie sent me a SMS on my cellular phone telling me that Diane and her Boyfriend broke up. This was out of the blue. I have not heard from the 2 of them for months and months. So I assume and tell me if I am wrong that Diane must want me to be with her.

 

[wolfie]

Yes FancyPants, this site is for men to learn how to get women. But you are learning the wrong way. The tactics on this site, the philosophies, the mental and social techniques, they are all generalistic techniques you apply to your entire life in order to see a gradual change in your interaction with women. They are not a 'magic pill' that you can take and you will get that 'one woman you're always after'. This site is designed to help you with WOMEN IN GENERAL, not THAT ONE WOMAN.
In other words, if you learned and used everything on this site, you WILL STILL NOT GET DIANE.
Why?
Because the only way for this stuff to work is if you start to go out and use it on LOTS OF DIFFERENT WOMEN in order to change yourself into a better man. You want help and analysis with an individual situation (Diane). Well all the analysis and technique in the world isn't going to help you because your intense focus and obsession on this situation will prevent you from carrying out the technique effectively.



If you don't get more experience with other women, then you can never have this one woman. Even if you get this one woman, you won't be able to keep her.

This site isn't about learning why this woman does what she does and how you can counter it. This is overanalysing.
The stress of analysing her behaviour is counter productive, and will do you more psychological damage than any benefit the answers can give you. Do you understand?
If you fix yourself with self improvement and experience with lots of women, then you won't HAVE to analyse her behaviour - you will have an attitude and frame that can counter any weird behaviour a woman does automatically.
What would be more ideal for you Fancypants? To be able to analyse everything a woman does and counter it with lots of individual techniques (which is what you're trying to do)... or to have a personality and mental frame so powerful that it can automatically nullify ALL of a womans behaviour?
Her: Bla bla bla *games games games test test test bs bs bs*
You: Shut the **** up and kiss me
Her: *gasp! A MAN!!*

Here's the solution to your problem. GO MEET AND DATE LOTS OF OTHER WOMEN, AND FORGET ABOUT DIANE.
There are two things that are happening here -

#1 is your view - Fancypants goes to sosuave.com, learns all these cool tricks, gets the forum to analyse Dianes behaviour and how to counter it, goes back and works the magic that he learned online and hey presto!, she spreads her legs for him.

THIS IS BS, IT WILL NOT HAPPEN

#2 is the more realistic solution - Fancypants goes to sosuave.com, learns things to deal with women in general and forgets about all this stupid analysis of individual behaviours. He goes out and applies DJ principles to his life and dates and screws lots of new women, becomes a better, happier, more fulfilled man. Maybe a year down the track this new, happier Fancypants runs into Diane again - only this time he doesn't give a crap whether she likes him or not, and doesn't care about any of her BS. At this point, he really does have the choice of whether or not to screw her, and he knows that if he doesn't then it won't matter to him at all because he has so many other choices out there.

 

[FancyPants]

Wow Wolfie very good post Thanks. But Why did I get that message on my phone?

 

[wolfie]

The answer is - who cares.

I don't even know why I'm replying to you. It's kind of fun being a keyboard jockey I guess.

Hey get this - imagine you just got beat up by Mike Tyson. Now you want to learn how to beat him. How do you think you're gonna do that? Some super coach is gonna tell you all of Mike's weaknesses in the ring, and you're gonna go back in and pound him now that you know all this? Ridiculous. You're going to have to train yourself up to be a better fighter with lots of experience and fights under his belt first right. Same thing with women.

 

[improvingdonjuan]

Fancypants played with all of you DJs
come on, he was probably laughing through the whole thing since he is playing us on our empathetic side because we all either were or are to surtaint extent AFC's and we are trying to better ourself and help our fellow aspiring DJ's out.

FancyPants IS THE ATTENTION ***** he Just wanted to have a hot topic and he gets a kick out of turning on his pc going to Sosuave.com and find out that some one else is responding to his topic. He had his answers in the beggining yet he pretended to be confused.

when noone else was replying he begged like an AFC so we could waste our time once more and get more kicks out of it.
he did a great job of toying and playing with you minds even to the point of you getting frustrated over the whole thing.

(i got to admit it was entertaining and he even made ME THE "IMPROVINGDONJUAN" add one more post to his topic.

 

[wolfie]

wwwwwhaa?? Attention ho?? butbutbut... he said thanks for all my help... and he asked for more help... I know he likes me.... i've been spending so much time on him...

 

[FancyPants]

Ok If anybody cares Diane got divorced "her husband was cheating on her." Her and I have been together for 3 months now. We had a long talk about what happened in the past and many shocking things that was going on back then. Like my boss at work would bad mouth me and tell her that I am not worth her time etc. I was told before that he may of done something like this. Her friend Julie did want me as well and after Diane quit working with me Julie would tell her all kinds of strange things that she said I was saying about Diane. Julie let Diane move in with her after the divorce and any time Diane would meet a guy Julie would get jealous and threaten to throw her out for made up reasons. Me I have changed my attitude alot there was always something in my head that told me Diane was not playing me. Unfortunatley I still have the same low paying job and struggle with money more now than ever before. Thanks guys

 

[Don Juanabbe]

Originally posted by FancyPants
Ok If anybody cares Diane got divorced "her husband was cheating on her." Her and I have been together for 3 months now. We had a long talk about what happened in the past and many shocking things that was going on back then. Like my boss at work would bad mouth me and tell her that I am not worth her time etc. I was told before that he may of done something like this. Her friend Julie did want me as well and after Diane quit working with me Julie would tell her all kinds of strange things that she said I was saying about Diane. Julie let Diane move in with her after the divorce and any time Diane would meet a guy Julie would get jealous and threaten to throw her out for made up reasons. Me I have changed my attitude alot there was always something in my head that told me Diane was not playing me. Unfortunatley I still have the same low paying job and struggle with money more now than ever before. Thanks guys

Sooooo.......tell me......this Diane......does she take it up the ass?

Does she swallow?