PlayerSupreme exposed as a Scam Artist??

[ArcBound]

Even though I joined this site kinda late, I remember him and all his disciples would come on this site basically trash talking everyone they could and trying to big up and give shout outs to Player Supreme with every post they made. Seemed fake to me then, seems even more fake to me now.

 

[Atom Smasher]

PS really shows his insecurity by calling out individuals in his podcast.

I have had one or two run-ins with KS in the past but so what? We could probably have a beer together in-person and laugh about this insane forum.

It takes a lot of insecurity to do a public call-out like that and the lesson to be learned here is that this kind of lack of self-control really does diminish one's reputation.

 

[cordoncordon]

This is PS's speech I heard not long ago at the NALFG convention. (North American Let's Fleece Geeks Convention)

BLOOD ALONE MOVES THE WHEELS OF HISTORY! Have you ever asked yourselves in an hour of meditation - which everyone finds during the day - how long we have been striving for greatness? [bangs fist] Not only the years we've been at war the war of work but from the moment as a child, when we realize the world could be conquered. It has been a lifetime struggle [bang's fists again] a never-ending fight, I say to you [bangs again] and you will understand that it is a privilege to fight. WE ARE WARRIORS!

Salesmen of Love, I ask you once more rise and be worthy of this historical hour. No revolution is worth anything unless it can defend itself. Some people will tell you salesman is a bad word. They'll conjure up images of used car dealers, and door to door charlatans. This is our duty to change their perception. I say, salesman and women of the world... unite. We must never acquiesce, for it is together... TOGETHER THAT WE PREVAIL. WE MUST NEVER CEDE CONTROL OF THE MOTHERLAND......FOR IT IS TOGETHER THAT WE PREVAIL!

 

[thedude4242]

all PUA guys are a scam. they show you getting a phone number and make it look like they had success. lets see how the interaction is after. they are all scam artists stroking their ego and got sissy men thinking they are good.

 

[Ease]

I think you need to think of this in a different light. Even though the 'betteroffsingle' fella is completely insane, he makes a good point.

In the end he is making money from this. When it comes to business aspect things, these guys are not charity workers, they are in for a profit. I dont hate this because if i had the oppurtunity to make some extra money on the side from this, i would be in it aswell.

And although this stuff seems ridiculous to most of us, we wouldnt pay for that stuff anyway. However the target market that he sells to is what we might consider dumb and very easily duped.

I wouldnt defend him flat out lying and photoshopping his name onto girls and claiming they are real, because thats just stupid business and will not work. But photoshopping without making very specific claims, or exagerating the truth about yourself in some aspects to play up a persona and character to get your product to sell is a part of the business they are in.

This is not a scam, this is ruthless sale tactics. Watch the movie 'glengarry glen ross' or 'boiler room', both classics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbIRedOqDwE&feature=related

 

[KarmaSutra]

I have had one or two run-ins with KS in the past but so what? We could probably have a beer together in-person and laugh about this insane forum.

You bet your ass we would.

What these nutjobs don't realize is that "fame" is as addictive as sucking the glass c0ck. When that bullsh!t reality begins to fade (cue the Days of our Lives soundtrack) "Like sands through the hourglass..."

...Those were the days they thought they were living.


And I'd gladly buy the first round and cigar.

 

[Casslehoff]

You losers are just mad supreme teaches real game. Instead that pick up artist bull crap running up on girls. My game has blown up since i started listening to supreme's stuff..

And yes, i've been roaming this website seeing what's all the simping i'm hearing about. And i was right I see alot of guys that still do not get it..
putting woman on pedastals and what not...

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

In my opinion the entire PUA movement is a a giant rip off scam. A guy should never have to pay for pick-up advice. We should all come to sites like these and help each other for free.

 

[Alle_Gory]

You losers are just mad supreme teaches real game. Instead that pick up artist bull crap running up on girls. My game has blown up since i started listening to supreme's stuff..

And yes, i've been roaming this website seeing what's all the simping i'm hearing about. And i was right I see alot of guys that still do not get it..
putting woman on pedastals and what not...

Oh wow. You must be really into Supreme's ass to use his favourite term. You are a good little ***** standing up for Daddy Supreme on this forum. Good boy.

Now while his game might be ok, the dude is very annoying to listen to. I don't know how you can do it. They guy cannot simply keep it together long enough to make a good podcast anymore. He'll start off well and then start whining about people and how they disagree with him (and you idiots pay to hear him whine).

The dude is full of ****. He has to protect his image from every single person that disagrees with him because his whole image is weak and could fall apart at any moment. Major insecurity. This is why he can't stand public forums anymore and only hangs out where people agree with him... on his own little forum.

On the other hand, he is very good at marketing. You know what they say, there's no such thing as bad publicity and Supreme knows how to use it to recruit more desperate followers. :rock: If you ever want to make money fast and all you have is worthless bull****, then pay attention to how Supreme does things.

 

[PlayerSupremo]

PLAYER SUPREME Zenmack University 7steps exposed = FRAUD FAKE PART 1.

This one has hit me hard. I have been listening to the brother for years and this set of videos here which you can see have planted the seeds of doubt in me. I just don't know if I believe Supreme is what he says he is after watching this.

The video which has 3 parts (I only watched 3 not sure if there is another one) makes the claims that supreme used sign generators (basically pictures of women where you put your name as a stamp on her leg/breast etc) and he used these pics as proof of women he got in the past in his products. These are pictures of women that supreme said were actual conquests of his. They all have their faces cut off so you only see from their boobs on down.

I really don't know what to believe. One side of me says that maybe supreme just doesn't have picture proof of his women because after all he is in his 50's and he's been retired from the game. Who really went around taking pictures back in the 80's or 90's of everything? Cell phone cameras and digital cameras didn't start coming along and becoming mainstream till the 2000s. When Supreme was in the game he probably didn't go around filming his conquests nobody at that time did. Not only that but he has too much good advice for him to be a fake.

But the other side of me says he just doesn't have enough proof and he could just be a master marketer playing us all for fools.

It's a sad day. The video does make supreme look like a master marketer and not a player. I don't know what to believe anymore. It's kinda depressing to think that one of the teachers you been listening to for so long could be an actual fake that was never a player in the first place.

WOW, this is very old. I'm sorry I missed it and I would of handled this back then had I know of your concern.

Here is my response:

Response

 

[Reykhel]

PS really shows his insecurity by calling out individuals in his podcast.

Wow, so he actually gets into arguments with members here and calls them out on his podcast. Pretty lame.

It takes a lot of insecurity to do a public call-out like that and the lesson to be learned here is that this kind of lack of self-control really does diminish one's reputation.

Definitively insecure. Seems to be full of self loathing. He's not really taken seriously around these parts so.

In my opinion the entire PUA movement is a a giant rip off scam. A guy should never have to pay for pick-up advice. We should all come to sites like these and help each other for free.

agreed, supposed to be what this site is about. At least if you're looking for material to sell, do it discreetly, without
flaming other members who may have a different view point to the one which you're trying to sell.

 

[Reykhel]

WOW, this is very old. I'm sorry I missed it and I would of handled this back then had I know of your concern.

Here is my response:

Response

So fellas, this one will try to flame you and use the exchanges in one of his podcasts. Lame.

 

[Top Of The Game]

Wooo...I haven't even watched the video. Someone is calling me a fraud? Really? No seriously? Well I let one fella see my proof of game on here. Now I wonder what this OP's real intentions are. OP I may put that video on my hangout today to show all of the guys who watch my vids and I will post it on my site. Right now I have no idea what it's about and nobody has ever bought this to my attention.

I do see someone that I admired on this thread. Ray Gordon. Arthur Gordon.

All of my products I created from my own mind and made them myself.

I see an old student on here warrior. Dude you can't possible believe whatever is in that video. But thanks for the marketing compliment. I'm still learning.

Oh SNAP I should of checked the date of this thread. SOMEBODY drug up an old thread from long ago. Dam I don't have anything to debunk now.

To this fella who said this above:

I got some of player supremes chat logs for free somewhere and I used them in chats with women and it did help me get laid. So the product definitely works. I don't hate the guy at all but I never paid him for anything.

I believe that was a video by a guy named Edee whom got his feelings hurt and went on a rampage video thing. He has since taken them down it seems. I guess he grew up and got over it.

 

[Top Of The Game]

And here comes recktum rek like a turd that won't flush. LOL recktum...was it you who dug up this old post from when I wasn't even on the site? Keep trying fella.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

And here comes recktum rek like a turd that won't flush. LOL recktum...was it you who dug up this old post from when I wasn't even on the site? Keep trying fella.

I sense some major butthurt. Pun intended LOL

 

[Reykhel]

In 2017 claims he didn't even see the video:

Wooo...I haven't even watched the video. Someone is calling me a fraud? Really? No seriously?

But he did see it and made a podcast response to it and posted it here in 2015

WOW, this is very old. I'm sorry I missed it and I would of handled this back then had I know of your concern.

Here is my response:

Response

Shameless liar and fraud.

Let him convince you to get private coaching. You too can be a pimp!

 

[Top Of The Game]

I sense some major butthurt. Pun intended LOL

Uh no. Coming from that idiot? No. Sorry. Nice try though fella. Okay onto the next alert.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Uh no. Coming from that idiot? No. Sorry. Nice try though fella. Okay onto the next alert.

I hope you realize that I just had to make that joke lol

 

[mrgoodstuff]

You losers are just mad supreme teaches real game. Instead that pick up artist bull crap running up on girls. My game has blown up since i started listening to supreme's stuff..

And yes, i've been roaming this website seeing what's all the simping i'm hearing about. And i was right I see alot of guys that still do not get it..
putting woman on pedastals and what not...

Interesting

 

[Top Of The Game]

I hope you realize that I just had to make that joke lol

Nope sorry I'm on a different bandwidth for humor especially when I'm used to guys trying to attack me from my history here and looking at the recktum dude spouting what they do...sheeeyat. My bad sorry.