player/relationship

[Zerotwoonenine]

hey guys, i have noticed some guys come here for help with relationships, whilst others come here to learn from players. so i was wondering, what are you(all stats confidential)

 

[Rhoto]

There is no point in having a relationship before you're into your late 20s. It's really that simple.

You can talk about companionship, or the way she makes me feel or any of that text book, regurgitated societal bullsh1t but you only make one thing evident: You are a loser with women. Especially if you're under 25.

I used to think that the goal of gaming chicks was to get into a loving, committed relationship where we shared life experiences and grew into one person. We'd have this everlasting love and there would be happiness unbound.

Wow, was that stupid.

Every day you have morons that log in, talk about their girlfriend and how much she means to them, and one of three things happen.

1) Some one cheats
2) Some one lies
3) Some one is suspected of cheating/want to maintain the love

Then they come here looking for advice or a pat on the back, when in reality their situation is FUBAR. But when some one suggests to DTB, they get defensive and use some cop out like "She's been there for me" or "I don't want to hurt her" and the worst part is, that they're all young bros.

(My personal guess is that a majority of these dudes grew up in single parent households or have a hyphenated last name, thus they succumb to the will of women.)

What are you, a pvssy? Man up boys, don't take sh1t from ANYONE, let alone some dumb broad.

My stance - Treat women as sperm dumpsters. I learned this from Leykis and it works. And please save you "quality" argument for some one who cares, I've gotten chicks that I thought were wayyyyyyyyyyyy too hot to give the time of day. Now I glaze chicks like that. And you want to know the best part? That its gets easier and easier the more you do it.

I've thought about my past girlfriends and realized, the only reason I tolerated them was to have sex. They've never said anything enlightening, given any insight, been able to carry a discussion about something that I'm interested in. I don't like talking on the phone, or having listen to any chick complain about her day.

Avoid marriage because in modern society, there is absolutely no benefit for a man to get married. ZERO.

And I'm curious OP - why is my lifestyle the "dark side" where as a monogamous one is the "light?" Have you felt the power of the Dark Side?

 

[Al Moh.]

This poll is nonesense, you are connecting cheating and relationships? For example, I wouldn't cheat on a girl, on the other hand I wouldn't start a relationship now. Casual Dating or ONS are not cheating as long as you don't have a relationship. So where is that choice? Why do you have to cheat if you aren't a relationship-guy?

 

[Tear Gas]

wow Rhoto...seems like you and i were seperated at birth or something. I feel the EXACT same way and i havnt been happier. Getting into a relationship is mindless and just a waste of time. I just sit back and laugh at all my male friends with gfs that complain constantly how stressed and annoyed they get by their gfs only to deal with it for the sex. How pathetic. So many women out there and you're wasting your time with some clingy ***** that's making your life miserable. I havnt been in a relationship since High School..i just get a few girls in rotation, then change it up after a while. It's A LOT of fun, plus i get to hang out with my guy friends, which i enjoy their company MUCH more than a womens.

To The Good Life

 

[Tomatoes]

Cheating is just like an STD

Great fun doing it at the time....

Not so good living with it

 

[TheHumanist]

There is no point in having a relationship before you're into your late 20s. It's really that simple.

You can talk about companionship, or the way she makes me feel or any of that text book, regurgitated societal bullsh1t but you only make one thing evident: You are a loser with women. Especially if you're under 25.

I used to think that the goal of gaming chicks was to get into a loving, committed relationship where we shared life experiences and grew into one person. We'd have this everlasting love and there would be happiness unbound.

Wow, was that stupid.

Every day you have morons that log in, talk about their girlfriend and how much she means to them, and one of three things happen.

1) Some one cheats
2) Some one lies
3) Some one is suspected of cheating/want to maintain the love

Then they come here looking for advice or a pat on the back, when in reality their situation is FUBAR. But when some one suggests to DTB, they get defensive and use some cop out like "She's been there for me" or "I don't want to hurt her" and the worst part is, that they're all young bros.

(My personal guess is that a majority of these dudes grew up in single parent households or have a hyphenated last name, thus they succumb to the will of women.)

What are you, a pvssy? Man up boys, don't take sh1t from ANYONE, let alone some dumb broad.

My stance - Treat women as sperm dumpsters. I learned this from Leykis and it works. And please save you "quality" argument for some one who cares, I've gotten chicks that I thought were wayyyyyyyyyyyy too hot to give the time of day. Now I glaze chicks like that. And you want to know the best part? That its gets easier and easier the more you do it.

I've thought about my past girlfriends and realized, the only reason I tolerated them was to have sex. They've never said anything enlightening, given any insight, been able to carry a discussion about something that I'm interested in. I don't like talking on the phone, or having listen to any chick complain about her day.

Avoid marriage because in modern society, there is absolutely no benefit for a man to get married. ZERO.

And I'm curious OP - why is my lifestyle the "dark side" where as a monogamous one is the "light?" Have you felt the power of the Dark Side?

To my opinion, if you are having fun, living the way you are living with hook-ups and a rotation of girls, I don't really see the problem (with the assumption the girls don't care either or not exactly people to respect that much which if they are b!tchy dumb broads giving sh!t, then they are not exactly people to respect). However, I do have a problem if people on the other spectrum should be looked at only mere fools, if they aren't reeling in drama and taking ****, if the girl bring additional joy to the person's life, isn't that just as good as your path? My experiences reflects that not all women should be just view as sperm dumps as since there are those who can give a meaningful conversation instead of just hearing them complain about their boring crappy day. I like their company enough because of that I don't want to just pump and dump and never see them again. So, I speak in defense that the other side is not like only for fools or people in their 30's either, though I do think a discerning and discipline mind in a contentful life is required, because there are those who only take the first girl they see who only causes trouble but still stand by because of various reasons, that's is the real problem of the other end of the spectrum.

 

[Jon55]

Cheating? Come on guys. Jesus.

There's a fine line between getting laid and being a jackass. Any guy who knowingly cheats is just amplifying his insecurity about his past or must still have a bitterness towards women, making him no better than the "AFC" he gives so much sh!t to.

Women are people too. Just because you're still mad you got dumped back in high school doesn't mean you should take it out on every girl possible. I wasn't aware PUA's didn't have morals. Yes, I say PUA's because a Don Juan wouldn't do crap like that, because a Don Juan understands respect both for himself and other people.

This is, of course, assuming the girl you're seeing is actually faithful and the two of you are in a solid relationship. Now if the girl just wants a ONS, well, then by all means enjoy.

 

[nubian-knight]

To each his own. Nothing is right or wrong, do what makes you happy. If doing hit and runs, banging tons of chicks in rotation makes you happy, do it. If you want a relationship with one girl, do it. And if you want to be alone and jerk off all night thats fine too. As long as its what YOU want to do and makes YOU happy.

Some people say that relationships are a waste of time and list all the characteristics of immature, deceitful, BS relationships. Relationships where both you and the girl have their own lives (lack of clingyness) remain honest and genuinely enjoy each others company are not wastes of time regardless of age (but the negative qualities of relationships tend to be in younger couples)

The problem isnt with relationships its with guys staying in them when their miserable solely because they depends on their girl for sex. Thats whats pathetic, not being in a relationship itself. You always have to be willing to walk away if sh!t doesnt meet your expectations.

so if you wana play the field, wife a girl, have sex with ur hand, its your call. done hate on the player, the LTR guy as long as they are each happy with what they are doing.

Just like a bodybuilding website that provides you with info how to achieve certain goals (bulk up, cut up, gain flexibility) the tips on this site will help you develop YOUR personal goals with women. Use them as you please

 

[ready123]

Since I was 18, I've been going back and forth between 1-2 yr exclusive LTR's and being in playa mode

I think everyone should try both at least once. two different skillsets, and there's a give and take for choosing one over another

I also agree with the RSD guys that there's usually a pattern
1. guy got burnt by 1st girlfriend or never had a gf
2. guy gets frustrated and learns seduction material
3. guy slowly gets better at socializing
4. guy becomes playa and enjoys it, realizing he now has choices
5. guy either stays in playa mode or uses the fact he now has choices to qualify a girl to settle down with

 

[Scars]

I go through phases. I was in a player stage for the longest time, and I think I'm just not getting out of it. That's partly because I have found a girl who I actually feel is WORTH getting into a LTR with, but we'll see how it goes. I really have a bad knack of getting attached, usually after a break-up I get relentless and go on a ****ing spree and break a lot of hearts in the process.

 

[The Nice Guy is Gone]

I'm in the middle -- but I would never cheat on a girl. If I'm "dating", then there is no relationship there, and anything goes. If I'm in a "relationship", then there is no cheating involved.

No matter what though, I still have fun.

 

[Zerotwoonenine]

There is no point in having a relationship before you're into your late 20s. It's really that simple.

You can talk about companionship, or the way she makes me feel or any of that text book, regurgitated societal bullsh1t but you only make one thing evident: You are a loser with women. Especially if you're under 25.

I used to think that the goal of gaming chicks was to get into a loving, committed relationship where we shared life experiences and grew into one person. We'd have this everlasting love and there would be happiness unbound.

Wow, was that stupid.

Every day you have morons that log in, talk about their girlfriend and how much she means to them, and one of three things happen.

1) Some one cheats
2) Some one lies
3) Some one is suspected of cheating/want to maintain the love

Then they come here looking for advice or a pat on the back, when in reality their situation is FUBAR. But when some one suggests to DTB, they get defensive and use some cop out like "She's been there for me" or "I don't want to hurt her" and the worst part is, that they're all young bros.

(My personal guess is that a majority of these dudes grew up in single parent households or have a hyphenated last name, thus they succumb to the will of women.)

What are you, a pvssy? Man up boys, don't take sh1t from ANYONE, let alone some dumb broad.

My stance - Treat women as sperm dumpsters. I learned this from Leykis and it works. And please save you "quality" argument for some one who cares, I've gotten chicks that I thought were wayyyyyyyyyyyy too hot to give the time of day. Now I glaze chicks like that. And you want to know the best part? That its gets easier and easier the more you do it.

I've thought about my past girlfriends and realized, the only reason I tolerated them was to have sex. They've never said anything enlightening, given any insight, been able to carry a discussion about something that I'm interested in. I don't like talking on the phone, or having listen to any chick complain about her day.

Avoid marriage because in modern society, there is absolutely no benefit for a man to get married. ZERO.

And I'm curious OP - why is my lifestyle the "dark side" where as a monogamous one is the "light?" Have you felt the power of the Dark Side?

i have, and i thought about both. the reason i became a dj was because i was hurt deep by a girl, then i was drawn to the dark side. but then after learning everything and i was having a choice between 5 hot girls, i just couldn't do the dark choice, i just couldn't play them all. so i took one into my arms and shes still with me(and its been over a year and half now). it is wonderful. i think it is decided at your birth whether you are on the light/dark side.

 

[Zerotwoonenine]

Cheating? Come on guys. Jesus.

There's a fine line between getting laid and being a jackass. Any guy who knowingly cheats is just amplifying his insecurity about his past or must still have a bitterness towards women, making him no better than the "AFC" he gives so much sh!t to.

Women are people too. Just because you're still mad you got dumped back in high school doesn't mean you should take it out on every girl possible. I wasn't aware PUA's didn't have morals. Yes, I say PUA's because a Don Juan wouldn't do crap like that, because a Don Juan understands respect both for himself and other people.

This is, of course, assuming the girl you're seeing is actually faithful and the two of you are in a solid relationship. Now if the girl just wants a ONS, well, then by all means enjoy.

agreeed. some good sht comin out here. keep it goin guys. i think ppl don't change, if you decide you are light, then you are. if you start off as dark, you can't change.

 

[Zerotwoonenine]

fukin hard 2 find a girl whos worth LTR with these days. girls either appear ltr material, and then you get to know them and you just want to tell them to STFU. or you get girls who want to be player(who have no self respect). real girls are just as hard to find as real men(in my mind LTR guys with a choice, knowin he is the man etc, but still willin to LTR)

 

[guywhoneedshelp]

The first person who replied to this thread is clearly the winner. Society has changed, marriage went out the window along with the idea of "woman don't curse, woman don't mess around" we get it man. Honestly, I get a few hb8's a week and I'm happy. I don't even have to bang them, just knowing they are there, maybe to hook up with just in case, is better than knowing that "there is 1 special girl for me"

I listened to some b!tch blah blah blah for 3 hours last night just to get head. Sure I listened, interacted, and seemed interested, but all it did was cause her to talk even more. Do I really want to be in a relationship with that? No. I'd rather do 3 hours of work to get what I need then to have to do 24 hours of work. And you know what, most girls are like that. Blah blah blah about sh!t that I could care less about and have no relation to at all.

 

[DonGorgon]

MOst people go through phases when they want to play and then want a relationship then want to cheat... THere are so many variables that it is impossible to honestly realistically say you can choose just one option...

On top of that both people have to want the same thing for anything to work so that adds more issues...

 

[Rebound Material]

MOst people go through phases when they want to play and them want a relationship then want to cheat... THere are so many variables that it is impossible to honestly realistically say you can choose just one option...

On top of that both people have to want the same thing for anything to work so that adds more issues...

I agree. Since I've never had a GF I placed myself under the second option(although it should have been the first). I don't know what an honest to goodness LTR is like so its naturally what ive been looking for and not just some side fcuk. Of course, im open to the fact that my choice is subject to change...

 

[Zerotwoonenine]

yea now days, men avoid relationships like a plagues cause girls out there these days r just plain biches.some of them deserve to get treated like *** dumpers.

 

[DonGorgon]

I don't know what an honest to goodness LTR is like..

Many people dont and many never will... the way the capitalist society is structured now is just not conducve for deep meaning full social concepts like marriage and LTRs... there is to much competition and uncertainty for people to come together and stick together....

 

[schttrj]

hey zero, really relate to ur signature! like it.

i have a saying for you,"don't treat a woman like a princess, don't treat her like a dog, treat her like a WOMAN"