plate arrives one hour late...

[pyros]

Odd story guys pay attention:

met this HB7.7, 27 years old, single mom a month ago. Today we had our 4th date.
First date: small kiss
second date: small make out
third date: long make out and I touched her tits

In the previous dates I went to pick her up since she lives 35 mins away from the city, but today a female friend of hers was suposed to drive her here.

I said to her that we were going to dance in a club, and have dinner before that, and that she should be here at 22h, she agreed.

Well...at 22:20 I texted her to see where she was, and she replied that she was almost here but...at 22:40 she texted me to say if she could bring her female friend since she wanted to dance as well, and asked me if it bothered me.

Well, I did not know what to do, or what to reply, I was pissed and confused, BUT I decided to let it be for this time, I decided to be suave instead of calling her out or arguing with her as some people here recommended me several months ago when something similar happened to me with two other girls I did not end up banging because I called them out on their **** before I had sex with them...
If I had posted about this today, many ppl here would have said something like:
she's not interested
she's stringing you along
you should call her out and punish her for bad behaviour
etc

Well, they both arrived at 23:00h. Since I was hungry I was already having dinner in a restaurant when they came. I was kind of harsh with her but cool at the same time, I talked to her female friend and to her while I finished my meal.

Then we went to a club. We all danced pretty hard and it was fun. My date made out with me, we grinded etc. When we were done, at 04:00 my date asked me if I minded to go to her female's friend apartment to chill for a while.
Besides, when we were in the car she said that her friend did not mind if we all slept together (??? threesome? I was not sure if it was some kind of trap...) I said I had no problem with that to what she replied: "you dont mind? what?? well...we could sleep together for a bit if you like the idea..."

When we got to her place, her friend just went to bed with her boyfriend (I did not know she had one, and neither I knew he was at her place sleeping. Anyway my date told me her friend is not in love with him and she is with him because she has no resources, but he is wealthy) and my date took me to another room and there we made out, I sucked her tits, touched her *****... but we were exhausted because we danced so much and she had gotten up pretty early because of work, so we did not have energy to go further.


Anyway, when I drove her home I said that for next time if she's not gonna be in time, she should tell me in advance. The funy thing is that she did not seem to understand my point, and she did not see anything wrong with her behaviour...silly entlited bitc-h...
I'm not arguing with her until I bang her a few times, as some guys here recommended me in the past. NO ARGUING UNTIL YOU'VE BANGED HER.

 

[:-)]

You could have had other plates on standby for such occasions.

 

[RagingBalls]

There's an old adage "Birds of the same feather flock together".
Her friend is a gold-digger, and your plate might also be one.
Be careful spinning with this one.

 

[the_stig]

There's an old adage "Birds of the same feather flock together"

Yup.. I've always maintained the quickest way to size a girl up is to look at the company she keeps. Never fails.

 

[El Payaso]

I'm not arguing with her until I bang her a few times, as some guys here recommended me in the past. NO ARGUING UNTIL YOU'VE BANGED HER.

Wow. The way some men pedestalize pu$$y is ridiculous. You shouldn't put up with crappy behavior just to stick your d!ck in a wet hole. Have some standards. We wonder why women act like sh!t these days. This is one of the reasons.

 

[pyros]

I do not pedestalize anything. I had two other girls play the same thing in the past, and I argued with them, got upset...and they got upset as well, and I did not bang them,
so when this happened to me several guys here like Brad among others recommended me that I should not get upset with my plates until I've banged them several times. Because if you do, if you call them out on their **** before sex...their vaginas close and dry.
Once you've had sex with the woman... you've won, now you own the frame and you do whatever pleases you.

Anyway, you have to find a point where you set your limits even before you bang her. For example, she arrived 1h late...but it was because she depended on her friend to drive her here. She could have texted me to say she was arriving late, couldn't she? but lets just let it be for this time...

 

[El Payaso]

I do not pedestalize anything. I had two other girls play the same thing in the past, and I argued with them, got upset...and they got upset as well, and I did not bang them,
so when this happened to me several guys here like Brad among others recommended me that I should not get upset with my plates until I've banged them several times. Because if you do, if you call them out on their **** before sex...their vaginas close and dry.
Once you've had sex with the woman... you've won, now you own the frame and you do whatever pleases you.

Anyway, you have to find a point where you set your limits even before you bang her. For example, she arrived 1h late...but it was because she depended on her friend to drive her here. She could have texted me to say she was arriving late, couldn't she? but lets just let it be for this time...

Okay. I guess everyone has different goals and a different goal doesn't necessarily mean a bad one. Don't just put up with too much of her $h!t.

 

[Big Nuts]

The real issue here is that you didn't bang a single mother by date 2.

Date 1: Meet, find her attractive enough?

Date 2: Hit.

The End.

 

[ThaMack]

I think u played it kinda cool. But it seems like u like her. Next her ass she gone try you again. U gotta keep the upper hand tho. If u woulda picked her up an been in control. U woulda boned I'm sure of it. Yet you let her friend come along. She was testing you I think. I wonder what woulda happened if u told her. You didn't see her friend in you guy's plans?

 

[Maximus Rex]

This is Probably a Waste of My Time....But

Rex has a policy against commenting on pyros' threads, (mainly because he doesn't listen to the advice that's being offered.) However, this time he did something so egregious I had to comment because it warrants immediate correcting and counsel.

Well...at 22:20 I texted her to see where she was, and she replied that she was almost here but...at 22:40 she texted me to say if she could bring her female friend since she wanted to dance as well, and asked me if it bothered me.

Bruh, have read anything on this site other than your own threads and posts? Time and time again, it's been stated that :cuss: NO, YOU CAN'T BRING YOUR FRIEND ON A DATE!

Well, I did not know what to do, or what to reply, I was pissed and confused,

That was a test of excremental fortitude and you failed.

BUT I decided to let it be for this time, I decided to be suave instead of calling her out or arguing with her

It warranted a ****y and funny response.

as some people here recommended me several months ago when something similar happened to me with two other girls I did not end up banging because I called them out on their **** before I had sex with them...

It's all in phrasing of things and the tonality in your voice. You can check a broad without sounding upset, sad, disappointed, angry, or frustrated. All you need is firmness in your voice and an unwavering look in your eye. Besides, women need those boundaries set. Also, some chicks you're just going to have to charge to the game. If you check a broad and she calls herself wanting to feel some kinda way about it, then she was obviously looking for some soft, trickin' supplicant beta male.

Well, they both arrived at 23:00h. Since I was hungry I was already having dinner in a restaurant when they came. I was kind of harsh with her but cool at the same time, I talked to her female friend and to her while I finished my meal.

You need to ingrain the following quote into your head, make it a part of your life, and never forget it, "How I start with a b*tch is how I end with a b*tch." Let me repeat that, "How I start with a b*tch is how I end with a b*tch." I'll say it one more time, "How I start with a b*tch is how I end with a b*tch."

When you've arranged a date, you give the chick a fifteen minute grace period. When minute sixteen hits, (and I don't care if she's arriving at the table,) you bounce. You tell that you've made other plans, (even if you haven't,) and you'll talk to her later. You have to set a precedent that not only you, but most importantly your TIME must be respected. To allow for such blatant disrespect only allows for more extreme forms of disrespect later down the road.

Anyway, when I drove her home I said that for next time if she's not gonna be in time, she should tell me in advance. The funy thing is that she did not seem to understand my point, and she did not see anything wrong with her behaviour...

Why should she, YOU CO-SIGNED IT! When she arrived an hour late with you still sitting there you the said the following things about yourself.

6) I desperately want to get to know you carnally and I'll put up with your insolent behavior to do so.

5) You're my only option.

4) I'll do anything and everything to please you, (even if it means sacrificing my dignity and self-respect.)

3) Though you want to see what kind of man that I am and see if I have the ability to provide for and protect you, I'm actually an omega male who avoids any confrontation.

2) Even though you're begging for instruction and guidance, I'm so desperate to get to know you carnally, I feel that if I did check you, it would jeopardize my chances of indulging in coitus with you.

And finally the most important and ironic message that you subliminally set to this chick and the one piece of advice Rex wants you to take and implement in your life.

1) My opportunities to be with a woman are so infrequent and I place so little valuable on my TIME, that I'm willing to sacrifice it in order to secure some p*ssy.

Rex has said a lot of things on this board, and you (despite you being totally unworthy of it,) are about to receive probably the most profound and valuable piece of advice that I'll ever dispense on www.sosuave.net.

Going back to my analogy about how dealing with women has a lot in common with training and housebreaking a puppy. Just as you don't reward and heap on praise puppy that chews up your furniture and urinates all over your home. You don't reward and heap praise on a chick that disrespects you and your time.

You're wondering why she didn't "understand," and she didn't see anything wrong with her behavior, it's because "YOU DIDN'T SEE," anything WRONG with her behavior. Not only did you condone her showing up an hour late, you rewarded it by

7) Allowing her friend to come.

6) Paying for your date's, (and probably her friend's) food and drinks at the restaurant.

5) Paying for your date's (and probably her friend's cover charge at the club. Assuming there was a cover charge.)

4) Buying your date, (and probably her friend,) drinks at the club.

3) Dancing and grinding on her.

2) Kissing her.

1) Engaging in foreplay.

You need to be glad that you didn't have sex with her or you'd truly be in a bad position. Dude, if you don't have any respect and value for your time, how can you expect the next person, (especially a female,) to?

I'm not arguing with her until I bang her a few times, as some guys here recommended me in the past. NO ARGUING UNTIL YOU'VE BANGED HER.

You're assuming that you're even going to get to know this woman carnally, which probably isn't going to happen because she doesn't have any respect for you. Also, you need to learn the difference between "arguing," and correcting bad behavior. If you're setting boundaries with a woman as far as what is and what isn't acceptable behavior and she wants to argue about it, next her, IMMEDIATELY! It's obvious that she's a drama queen and she wants supplicant beta male in her life.

Also, stop pedestalizing that snatch, you're not suppose to put up with a women's shenanigans, (especially if you've demeaned yourself to deal with a single mother.) Bad behavior and disrespect, (especially when it comes to your time because time is invaluable and can't be replaced,) has to corrected, sometimes immediately. Finally, leave this chick alone because nothing good can come out of it. You've let too much go and her impression of you is firmly in place and potna, it ain't a good one.

You also need to watch this clip every day, several times a day for the next six months.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEkQOIt8l_0

Triple Your Results INSTANTLY: How To Be The Guy She Can't Get

I'm not arguing with her until I bang her a few times, as some guys here recommended me in the past. NO ARGUING UNTIL YOU'VE BANGED HER.

Please provide the link that :cuss:. Who told you that excremental piece of garbage? Dude, there's literally no hope for you. You don't adhere to the good game that's being bestowed upon you, but when you do decide to take somebody's advice, it's the worst advice possible.

 

[pyros]

Hi Max,

1. I did not pay for their drinks, food, or anything. But thanks for worrying...
2. It seems she had to add her friend to the date since her friend is the one who has a car. My date lives in a village and needs her friend to drive her to the city everytime. Besides, it seems they arranged that this girl would let us have sex at her place that night, since I do not have a place of my own, my date has her kids at home, so no private place available. Her female friend was pretty kind and in order to thank her, my date let her join us to have some fun since she did not have any other plans to do that night. My date told me several times during the date that she did not want to bring her friend but she 'had to'.
3. The thing about arriving on hour late without texting or saying sorry...well, she says that she texted me at 20h (which is true) to tell me that she depended on her friend, and that she was not sure when she could be here. Well, I did not understand it that way.

Anyway, we'll see.

They guys that recommended me to be more suave and less harsh in the first stages of banging a girl were bradd80 and pimp-sicle I guess. They did not say that I should tolerate all flaky or bad behaviour but they said that I should let her know that I am pissed but without making a big deal or drama, and without 'arguing'.
I let her know when she got to the restaurant that I was upset and that I did not like it (but without arguing, just firm)

See ya.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Stop Making Excuses for Her

2. It seems she had to add her friend to the date since her friend is the one who has a car.

Dude, why are you bothering with this chick? Seriously, bruh. Her life is complete and total disarray. She's a 27 year old single mother without a car. How does she get her kid to doctor's appointments or daycare? How does she get back and forth to work? Her decision making skills and the level of respect she has for other people are clearly on display, but you're choosing to ignore the red flags.

My date lives in a village and needs her friend to drive her to the city everytime.

Bruh, don't you see she set you up for a potential flake? I wouldn't be surprised if the reason for them being an hour late was because their other plans for the night might have fell through and you were the back up plan. Also, you're making excuses for her bad behavior. Somebody a few weeks back posted a thread about screening chicks properly, and you need to do that. The things you screen for is

1) Does she a suitable location for banging purposes.

2) If she isn't in your city, does she have a car.

This "needing your friend to chauffeur you about," is for teenagers who just got their driver's license, not a 27 year old woman with a child.

Besides, it seems they arranged that this girl would let us have sex at her place that night, since I do not have a place of my own, my date has her kids at home, so no private place available.

pryos, how often do you have sex? Seriously bruh, how often do you get to know women carnally? I ask because you're insinuating that it doesn't happen very often because if you did have sex on a more frequent basis, you might have avoided this. This is extremely thirsty behavior.

I haven't wrote about this yet, but a few weeks back, I was hollering at this chick and on this occasion my game was particularly strong, (so strong in fact, that "THE INSECT," noticed and called the since "retired," NegMan and told him how much ya boy's game has improved.) The set was ran perfectly, baby girl was responsive, was enjoying herself, and most importantly she was seeking Rex's validation. Then I asked my screening question which is "How many kids do you have?" before I proceeded further. She replied, "One," and goes on to talk about her 3 year old son. I tried to get a confirmation picture, but "THE INSECT'S," phone didn't work, ole girl grabbed her drinks and went back to her friends. "THE INSECT," was curious as to way Rex didn't continue on, Rex said because she had a kid.

Now I tell you all of that to say this. You need to set some standards potna. Just because a chick looks easy doesn't necessarily mean you need to holla at her, be more discerning when it comes to who's number you're willing to take and who'll ask out.

Her female friend was pretty kind and in order to thank her, my date let her join us to have some fun since she did not have any other plans to do that night.

THANK HER??? Really bruh, Listen to yourself man, and others will verify what Rex is saying when they read this, YOU'RE CONTINUING TO BE AN APOLOGIST FOR HER BAD BEHAVIOR! You're suppose to be on a date, right? However, this rude, inconsiderate, thoughtless, b*tch finds it appropriate to show her thanks and gratitude to her friend, while on a DATE WITH YOU! Who does this? Better yet, who in the :cuss: allows it?

My date told me several times during the date that she did not want to bring her friend but she 'had to'

Okay, so the friend was supplying transportation, but explain this to ole Rex, why did she need to be with you while the two of you were on a "date?" Couldn't she had gone someplace else? pyros, you need to get your head in the game, potna. Those chicks were running and assessment on you. I bet when they got together, they compared notes and discussed whether or not ole girl should continue to go out with you.

3. she texted me at 20h (which is true) to tell me that she depended on her friend, and that she was not sure when she could be here.

That's when you were suppose to say, "Okay, I've made other plans. I'm going to meet with a friend of mine and go out with her and some of her friends. Call me when you want to go out.

They guys that recommended me to be more suave and less harsh in the first stages of banging a girl were bradd80 and pimp-sicle I guess. They did not say that I should tolerate all flaky or bad behaviour but they said that I should let her know that I am pissed but without making a big deal or drama, and without 'arguing'.

I let her know when she got to the restaurant that I was upset and that I did not like it (but without arguing, just firm)See ya.

Okay, but concerning your time, you have to be a little harsh and pissed. Your time is not to be trifled with.

Hi Max

My name is Rex, not Max.

 

[pyros]

Sorry Rex.

She lives in a village that has everything, you know? medical centre, leisure centre etc. but since I live in the city center, she has to come here cause I prefer it, there are more places to go and its more fun. She works 10 mins away from her place, in the same village, she's a waitress.

She's about to buy a car, by the way.

I've been in four dates, and she's been on time 3 times out of 4, so not so big deal, but it it happens again, then I could become a biggie.

She texted me next day to thank me for the good time, send me lots of kisses etc...

We'll see...

P.S.

I get sex with certain frequency, dont worry. And you seem to be pretty harsh and a bit bitter with women. Not every woman is plotting against you, stringing you along etc, you know?