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plastic bottles for water dangerous?

kickureface

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i've done some googling and it has said that 2, 4 and 5 plastics (their ratings in their triangle) are safe to use.
right now i'm drinking out of a safeway 1gallon bottle of water. tastes 100% like plastic!!! WTF?!?!
so i looked underneath. plastic rating 2. i did some more research but i cannot find out what's safe and what isn't safe.
anyone have experience on this?
 

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I wouldn't worry about it. There's somethings in life you're just not meant to bunch your panties over.
 

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Some plastics contain estrogen that could be affecting your testosterone levels.

Poliquin has something about this where he has clients do something or other for a plastics purge.
 

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I try to avoid plastic bottles, microwaving things with plastic wrap, etc. Nothing good can come of it. Especially as a Gynecomastia sufferer, I find it scary all the crap that is in our food these days.
 

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There's no way to purge bisphenol A from your body, Ruckus.. It leads to a chronic buildup stored in the liver.

I would disagree with Wescott and say that it is something you should consider, yet at the same time there's no point worrying over it. Just make the right choices about what you drink/eat out of, and you'll have nothing to worry about.

Basically avoid hard plastics and canned food/drinks when you can, if you're concerned about it.

Here's a brief list of products that contain it:

CDs, food can linings(epoxy resin used to seal the can), thermal (fax) paper, safety helmets, plastic windows, polycarbonate bottles and containers.

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Bisphenol A is basically just an endocrine disruptor. In studies done on infant animals in the womb, introducing small amounts of bisphenol A had the effect of speeding the infant females' puberty up. It would onset faster and accelerate. It has the same affect that injecting estrogen to that newborn female would have.

It's a different story for male animals however.. It acts sort of as a testosterone blocker would. The male animals who were subjected to Bisphenol A in the womb were found to have lower sperm counts and testosterone levels, high incidence of breast development, and exhibit female behavior..

There was one study done on the fish population in a River in washington DC, downriver from where a plastics factory is. Apparently 60% of the MALE fish had begun laying eggs, like females do. This was compared to results from a different study done on the same fish, 40 years ago, and there was no significant sign of contamination..

In swamps in Florida(near Disney Land), where plastics are dumped in 100s of tonnes every year, male alligators all over the swampland are found to have shriveled testicles and exhibiting female behavior.

In pretty much all clinical studies done on rats(mammal), exposing the unborn male rat--in the womb-- to small amounts of BPA had the affect later in life of reducing their motivation to explore, and anxiety.

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You don't have to look far or do much research to gather that BPA is flat out a poison to living things, even in low doses. Like smoking, some will care and some won't. I for one don't feel a pressing desire to ingest something that is proven to make males behave like females.

It's still in research stage, but already nations and corporations are banning plastics containing BPA. Up here in Canada, its already been removed from daycares, preschools, and elementary schools. The BPA industry(is huge) isn't liking any of this new information, so they do try to play things down somewhat. If you want to do research, make sure you don't read anything written by scientists in the BPA industry..

Again, some will care, and some won't.
 

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So we're all screwed even if we stop unknowningly being exposed to it now? Fasting wont work? There's gotta be some way.
 

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This just seems a little extreme unless your tend to naw on the plastic.
Thats like saying touching a bulls penis will give you a shot of testosterone...
 

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The plastic in bottled water probably isn't enough to do much damage, but in my opinion bottled water is a pure waste of money.

The EPA only mandates that bottled water be as pure as tap water, and most bottled water companies don't strive to go above that. The only thing they really purify for is taste.

Just turn on your spicket and you can get the same quality water, without the plastic.
 

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i've begun rotating a variety of water bottles lately just to hedge my bets (my nalgenes are too convenient in several ways and i'm not prepared to replace them just yet), but keep in mind that most canned foods & drinks are lined with this stuff AND most are fairly acidic (low pH) compared to your average tap water, and thus plausibly (though not demonstrably) more likely to leech large amounts of BPA into the food/drink being consumed.

also, keep in mind that the latest attention to BPA has been in Canada, and is related to studies that have very little to do with drinking out of nalgene bottles. Continental Europeans, who are notoriously afraid of anything that could be branded "unnatural" seem unfazed by all this commotion, and most of the denouncing, including in Canada, has been aimed at infant milk & formula consumption out of BPA bottles, or else peddled by the same granola crowd that first made nalgene bottles famous (oops!)
 

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nalgene seems to be fine now.
what i've found so far is:
don't use 1 plastics for too many times (1 time use)
if it is 2, 4, or 5 you should be safe
don't heat **** in plastic (not as bad as in 2 4 and 5 i think)
avoid 7
don't leave things in the sun.

yeah.
 

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Is this the number in the triangle made up of arrows?
If so, then ive been drinking bottled water with a 1 for a very long time.
 

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Wow. Its like my body has a brain of its own. I always thought there was something weird about plastic. I never drank my water when it was hit by sun (playing basketball) and got hot... I just always sensed something odd about it. Lucky me!

:cool:
 

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Bonafide said:
Wow. Its like my body has a brain of its own. I always thought there was something weird about plastic. I never drank my water when it was hit by sun (playing basketball) and got hot... I just always sensed something odd about it. Lucky me!
:crazy:

so i was looking for bottles to use at the gym, found an eddie bauer one. 7, pc. great, bpa leaching.
i did more searchin and found this:
http://www.bisphenol-a.org/human/pol...s.html#summary
looks legit? wtf?
it's industry-funded, so they have every incentive to downplay any risks. on the other hand, everything they say is true. except that nobody is going to do the science that would really tell us whether it's safe or not, so this whole discussion is moot. either worry about the containers you drink from, or don't. but recognize that if you're going to throw away a Nalgene bottle, you should never touch another canned soda, which surely leaches more of this stuff.

the only scientists who are worried about this (a) are Canadian, (b) admit they're being extremely cautious and (c) only wanted to stop the production of BPA-leaching baby bottles, not Nalgenes or internally-coated canned products.
 

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Throttle said:
but recognize that if you're going to throw away a Nalgene bottle, you should never touch another canned soda, which surely leaches more of this stuff.
I thought this was the very first step to eating healthy anyway.

I use glass bottles at the gym and school.
 
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