Picture of a Iraq veteran Marine groom and bride.

[wayword]

Well, tough times bring tough choices...

These guys probably didn't realize when they enlisted that they would be fighting for a shadow government to strip Constutional freedoms away at home and help set up a global totaIitarian police state all over the world.

And then once in, they must either have the bravery to risk their lives for these puppetmasters.

Or conscientiously object to deployment like Ehren Watada and face loss of all his retirement benefits, etc and loss of face from many government officials and some flag-waving SUV drivers.

Either way, you're kind of giving up your life. Both are extremely tough choices that none of US here are faced with in our discussions...and I certainly feel bad for this soldier.

The real problem is that our country has been hijacked onto a collision course with the cashless, bi0chipped, future NW0. Every country needs soldiers for legit defense. The problem is when they get misused and abused by the leaders.

 

[Oxide]

cuz KNOWLEGE IS CONTAGEOUS

This forum is ****ed.


I don't know how I would deal with it if my girlfriend was in an accident and came back like that. As much as I would like her... jesus. Imagine getting dumped by your fiance when you come back from battle. THAT would push you over the edge for sure.

 

[sparky0000]

This forum is ****ed.


I don't know how I would deal with it if my girlfriend was in an accident and came back like that. As much as I would like her... jesus. Imagine getting dumped by your fiance when you come back from battle. THAT would push you over the edge for sure.

big difference in an accident and joining the marines. it is the freaking MARINES. the marines are about fighting. they are about killing and blowing things up. along with playing "jesus with a gun" comes risks. that picture is one of those risks. few of you realize that our lives are based on the decisions we make. join the marines and risk getting burned beyond recognition. that doesn't mean that you can't have respect for the man. far from it. respect a man for chasing his dreams, however don't feel sorry for someone who knew the risks he was taking. the marines are not the boy scouts. i doubt if any marine wants your pity. respect - yes. pity - no.

the number of guys in iraq who are getting dumped by their fiances is staggering. that is what they get for going with american broads. MANY american military dudes end up marrying non-american women. i wonder why

she SHOULD stick with him. if you get engaged or marry a marine you should understand what might happen to him. the two of you should sit down and discuss the cold hard truth. death, loss of limbs, burns, mental problems, etc. must be dealt with before you decide to become serious with a marine. i have ZERO respect for any broad who would run from her man because of something like this. it just goes to show you how sick and shallow american society has become that some of you would even debate whether or not she should stick with him. the joys of chasing after the american woman

 

[Oxide]

So if your chick decided to go to war and came back messed up, you would stick around. Spare me the bs.

 

[Vulpine]

*clicks on "Add sparky0000 to ignore list"*

I don't know why you guys keep trippin'.

This forum gets better and better every day!

 

[BBX]

FYI...they're attempting to reinstate the draft as we type meaningless chatter on "getting women" on message boards. Check it out. Current enlistees KNOW they want to wage 2 wars at the same time while stockpiling our home forces. The draft won't be enacted, but the fear of having one will push alot of fence sitters in so that they aren't in fact ever drafted to a branch they don't want to be drafted into.

i dont know, maybe its just the way I was raised, but the act of someone joining the armed forces, fire dept, police dept, etc really raises my eyebrows. I never understood how these people have the courage and the passion to do what they do despite the risks. jewish parents do not raise their kids to take these jobs so maybe thats it, but damn, all in all give this guy and anyone else in the armed forces some respect. its because of these people that there is no draft and unlikely that there will be one. i will be the first to admit, i am a coward, i would never go to war. i would be the hippie burning his draft card. therfore i respect people like this man as much as i respect myself

 

[PeterNorthisawesome]

Maybe if you guys weren't so selfish and looked beyond your lives you'll realized that most service men/women have no other options so joining the armed forces is the only way left for them to survive. These people are risking their lifes so you can post on these forums just be glad there isn't a draft. Amerian women are spoiled, she'll def leave him but if this was a Japanese or Israli women she would stay and take care of him.

 

[BBX]

Amerian women are spoiled, she'll def leave him but if this was a Japanese or Israli women she would stay and take care of him.

110% correct

 

[djbr]

Amerian women are spoiled, she'll def leave him but if this was a Japanese or Israli women she would stay and take care of him.

Don't know Israli, but Japanese? I would think twice.

 

[penkitten]

http://www.driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article1294008.ece
more on this

 

[DJDamage]

http://www.driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article1294008.ece
more on this

Thanks for posting the story.

From the story it sounds to me that he was the one that took her virginity and he was her only guy she ever been with. Add the fact that the guy is pretty cool level headed guy and they come from a small town mentality, this may actually work......

He had seen other badly wounded soldiers and marines get dumped by their girlfriends in hospital. Sometimes they would be cruel to their girlfriends and chuck them pre-emptively to spare themselves hurt. But quietly and with little fuss, Ty, 24, and Renee, 21, resolved to stick it out.

That pretty much tells the story right there and the difference between them and most other couples.

 

[sparky0000]

yes, i would stick with my wife (if i had one) if she got f***** up like that. i have dated enough jaw dropping girls to have gotten over only the physical part of beauty. move to a place like odessa and in a few years you will get the "damn, she is a hottie" crap out of your heads. marriage is for better or worse. the worse will happen at some point in every marriage.

 

[Docs]

"odessa"

Are you Canadian and in Ontario? Because I might just live 30 minutes away from you!

 

[Derek Flint]

You're an idiot and you spit on every soldier who is serving or who has served.

Tell you what - go volunteer at your local VA hospital for one weekend, and start spewing that crap you wrote below.

You'll get educated and set straight real quick.

Well, tough times bring tough choices...

These guys probably didn't realize when they enlisted that they would be fighting for a shadow government to strip Constutional freedoms away at home and help set up a global totaIitarian police state all over the world.

And then once in, they must either have the bravery to risk their lives for these puppetmasters.

Or conscientiously object to deployment like Ehren Watada and face loss of all his retirement benefits, etc and loss of face from many government officials and some flag-waving SUV drivers.

Either way, you're kind of giving up your life. Both are extremely tough choices that none of US here are faced with in our discussions...and I certainly feel bad for this soldier.

The real problem is that our country has been hijacked onto a collision course with the cashless, bi0chipped, future NW0. Every country needs soldiers for legit defense. The problem is when they get misused and abused by the leaders.

 

[seanchai]

sparky, you must be Ukrainian! (?)

That guy has an incredible attitude about this whole thing. My estimation of him just jumped a million points. What a guy.

 

[Latinoman]

Here is something about the military that very few people understand.

People call it a “volunteer” military. But it is? Maybe with the Officer rankings…but very unlikely with the Enlisted rankings.


Joining the Enlisted rankings is really like being drafted. A considerably amount of people in the Enlisted rankings MUST join in order to have a better way of life. Join for a hope to get some GI-Bill to “help” for College tuition or medical benefits for their children and spouses or simply to get a better life (such as staying away from the streets, etc.).

Because of the Enlisted forces (many of which have other part time jobs and WIC and Food Stamps in order to survive) we don’t have a Draft today. THEY are our draft.

And their lives have been entrusted to our Political leaders and the Military leadership in order to defend our Nation.

We cannot talk crap about guys that died or get mutilated serving their Nation. They are just following orders. What we have to do is honor their sacrifice and make sure they are taken care off. After all, they are saving us from having a Draft. How do we do that? By choosing the correct political leaders…not by insulting them (unless they are committing war crimes).

 

[wayword]

You're an idiot and you spit on every soldier who is serving or who has served.

Tell you what - go volunteer at your local VA hospital for one weekend, and start spewing that crap you wrote below.

You'll get educated and set straight real quick.

Say what? What was crap and how did I spit on every soldier?

F'n moron. Time for your Prozac enema, dude.

 

[A-Unit]

Re:

/agreed

The military isn't really voluntary. It's only voluntary to the extent the have women and men WILLING to go, so that OTHER people won't have to be drafted. Which raises a second point, how good is a nation that forces people to fight for it? Philosophers, political commentators, and religious experts have pondered this position for quite awhile, and I have to agree, REQUIRING someone to fight, and not allowing them to leave, diminishes the cause you fight for.

I respect those who go, because it means the rest of us don't. But if they didn't, and people were required to go, the big question is, should we? Many left the war effort because of how things were. Some, were misguided in the what they thought joining was all about. Others, got there and found that they didn't believe in the cause, OR, they were so undersupplied that they could never fight effectively.

If people don't have the FREEDOM to choose to FIGHT and protect what they love, are they actually defending FREEDOM?



A-Unit

 

[Skel]

I would kill myself

 

[Latinoman]

No it's not. I enlisted in the military completely at my own will. Raised my right hand and swore in just like everybody else, and signed on the dotted line. You can't get angry at the military for providing great medical benefits, free room and board, and educational awards. What do you want them to do? Get rid of the perks? "Food Stamps"! Get real. There's a chow hall on every base to provide 3 squares a day. Food stamps... :crackup:

I was in the military and served in one of the Wars. Based on the quote above, I have serious doubts that you served in the military or even understand the struggle some of the junior enlisted men and women with families must face.

Laugh all you want about the food stamps...but not every enlisted man is SINGLE and living in the barracks. Most have wives and little children, none of which eat in the chow hall.

If you want to give an opinion, make sure you inform yourself before "cracking up" as laughing about something as serious as this is pathetic and indicates how ignorant you are about what's going on.

The very definition of "voluntary."

If people don't have the FREEDOM to choose to FIGHT and protect what they love, are they actually defending FREEDOM?

That's irrelevant, because in this country we have that freedom. No draft.

You take people away the ability to make LOT of $$$ or the ability to have a FREE education and you would have the same people (or most of it) joining the military. "Voluntarily".

That's why you don't see any RICH kid joining the Enlisted ranks. Shouldn't the fight for Freedom be one in which all social backgrounds of citizens serve?