Philosophy prevents me from getting job, what are my options?

[Alle_Gory]

Well the inclinations that come naturally to everyone in our society (eg wanting to get laid), don't really drive me.

Unless you have some problems, you are biologically male and prone to the male hormones. Don't masturbate for a month, and try to say this again.

Development is evolutionary, which is why "confidence" and "alphaness" is the sum total of life experiences and not just an attitude you can decide to have.

Yes. And the DJ Bible you read was more of a pamphlet. An introduction to the journey. There is far more to learn and experience than can be summarized.

I never played any sports outside gym till 10th grade. I was on the football field a grand total of 3 times, the 2 years I was on the team. And yet I consider my lackluster athletic career one of my greatest achievements.

I didn't have many friends in middle school or high school. It wasn't my doing, I blame it on my sh*t parents, but I still had to deal with their mistakes. Yes, I didn't play sports because of this. I had a chance in Grade 12 to do some track and field, and in university I decided to do some competitive rowing.

I don't give a sh*t about the past. It's done with and cannot be changed.

If I couldn't force myself to love working out after 10 years, I will NEVER love math no matter how much I say its the realization of reason and logic. Despite what I may wish I liked, theres nothing I hate more than math.

So find out what you like and do that. Working out is a requirement for being alive. Whether house work, or sports, or going to the gym. Unless you put in some kind of physical effort to maintain your body and health, it WILL degrade.

It seems to me like all this philosophy is screwing up your priorities. You put your bullsh*t ahead of your own survival and health. That to me is a problem.

Find a new philosophy because as you have seen, not only is this detrimental to you, it has no application whatsoever. You're only using it as an excuse because you're afraid to change or don't believe you deserve to be better. You did mention working at McDonalds would be the best choice. That is masochist.

 

[RobertL]

You may be having a nervous breakdown

I've seen a lot of guys around your age suddenly feel overwhelmed. They dropped out of school, quit their jobs, spent a lot of time ruminating as you're doing with philosophy -- trying intellectually to make sense of what's happening to you.

Emotional exhaustion kept them from studying or working. Fueled by disappointment in themselves, they obsessed -- going over the same ground over and over again because they couldn't think outside their own experience.

What they had -- and you evidently have -- used to be called a "nervous breakdown" (a nonclinical term). All of them recovered, almost always after a time-out period, often with the help of medication to relieve depression and/or anxiety.

Important: This condition is thought to be largely physiological, usually a congenital vulnerability triggered by stress. It is not a character flaw or a personality defect or a reflection on your childhood, but rather a metabolic event.

If I were you, I'd follow the best advice you've gotten here. See a physician. Ideally he or she would be your family's doctor. Then bring your parents up to date about you and invite them to speak to the doctor. That'll enlist them as your supporters and make them more amenable to your moving back home for your time-out.

Good luck!
RobertL

 

[wolf116]

You made good points but this confuses me.

Find a new philosophy because as you have seen, not only is this detrimental to you, it has no application whatsoever. You're only using it as an excuse because you're afraid to change or don't believe you deserve to be better. You did mention working at McDonalds would be the best choice. That is masochist.

"Philosophy is the science which considers truth" so said Aristotle.
No one can choose the truth or what they believe in. No amount of wishful thinking will make the truth go away. What has been seen can not be unseen.

The problem isn't philosophy it's depression. If he was Christian he'd be depressed about having an immortal soul and never ever being able to die.

Philosophy students are usually the ones getting laid while the science, math and engineering students study.

 

[Just a Shot Away]

Whoa, your posts are way too long. Poorly organized too, man. Nobody's going to get what you're saying with long-winded crap like that.

Why do you put so much stock into the ideas of famous philosophers? You seriously live YOUR life based on how Hume, Hobbes, Kierkegaard, etc. lived theirs? That's just weird, heh. Yeah, they said some cool stuff. But to want to go live in the woods in a treehouse and just hit the hash pipe all day because Nietzsche advocated nihilism? Give me a break. You do realize that they would all look down their nose at you once they see that you're basing your opinions on life from their experiences and not your own, right?

Pop your cherry, hit the bars a few times, and move the hell out of your parents' house. You'll be alright.

 

[Alle_Gory]

"Philosophy is the science which considers truth" so said Aristotle. No one can choose the truth or what they believe in. No amount of wishful thinking will make the truth go away. What has been seen can not be unseen.

Except in this case, he just made up all this philosophy to support his other problems. It's not a science or a study, it's an excuse. He created this, he is the only one who can get rid of it. It's now a mental block.

Philosophy students are usually the ones getting laid while the science, math and engineering students study.

Hahah. No. Not quite.

 

[Duffdog]

Enamdar:

All philosophy at its core is reduced to this:

The primary function of all human beings is to continuously consume natural resources until they are gone and then consume each other. Simplifying further: All humans destroy.

If you are not destroying something, you are not human. Everything any human does at any time causes destruction. Even philosophy causes destruction because the brain requires more energy, which requires you to eat more food which requires trucks to deliver it and waste fuel while machines cultivate the soil to grow it for you and package it which creates waste which can never be fully recovered.

So, while you think that you are not doing the same things that all the other humans are doing, the reality is that you are. You are already in the rat race, consuming energy and destroying the earth. And since you are already doing it, there is no point in attempting to create an artificial dilineation between you and "the rest" of the world because you are no different from any of them.

Thus, you should stop thinking that you are different and make some money and fvck some chics while you are at it.

Your endless philosophizing about "why" has actually pissed me off internally-- its a feeling I've not had since I was in philo class in college and I wanted to strangle every philo major I ever met. I'm going to go out and fvck some random blonde tonight just because of it...

 

[ultramarine]

Enamdar:

I read with post with great interest.

I can relate very closely to your situation. First things first: if you haven't read Steppenwolf by Hermann Hesse, I suggest that you run and buy it now.

I am older than you so that I can tell you that it just will not go away: it is who you are, not just what you think. I have tried all I could to fit, only to come back to square one after 15 years.

It is important to go out in the world and try to relate to others. You are too young to "retire" from the world. No matter how sophisticated your philosophy might be, the human factor just cannot be ignored or glossed over. Otherwise, you'll just end up hating everyone and whilst the majority are 'rape-apes', as you aptly call them, there are some people who are worth knowing out there. Without being a sentimentalist, I must tell you that love makes all the difference. It won't ever, and shouldn't, make you oblivious of yourself but it will make life bearable - that is not little, indeed. In other words, the difference between life and death lies in your finding someone who will love you as you are. Mark my words: who will love you as you are.

Finally, you seem to be bright. What on earth are you doing on this forum?

I don't belong to it. Your thread was referred to on another forum. I hardly ever contribute to forums but I am making an exception here as your plight is so very similar to mine.

 

[theborn_athlete]

"The only time i can see suicide being beneficial is when you have no chance of living anyway and you want to die to relieve pain (youth in asia)"


Am I the only one that spit out their drink when they read that?

Pure gold.