Philly low-key bar recs?

[BPH]

Got a girl meeting up with me Friday night driving in from East Brunswick. Philadelphia is roughly halfway between us so I picked that as the spot. Problem is the only bars I know are crowded clubby college bars for singles, or dive bars with absolute degenerates.

Asked a couple friends but they're not so knowledgeable either, wanted to see if anybody has a recommendation here. I'm looking for something that's relaxed and is neither too fancy nor too trashy.

EDIT: I was suggest The Goat or Strangeloves. Apparently the former is a little pricier and the latter is less so but a little more hipster. Curious if anybody here is familiar.

 

[BPH]

A little update for the 3 people who bother to read this.

The girl I'm seeing tomorrow and I are texting back and forth and she hit me with this after I responded to her question where she asked me what I'm looking for:

"Haha that's a fair point. I'm at the point in my life where I want something long-term but no pressure because obviously you have to feel things out and whatnot lol. Buttt if you're not open or looking for that then let me know "

In my experience, girls are either using this as an anti-slut defense or are holding out for potential marriage material. I'm wondering if there's any extra context that would help figure out which it is prior to meeting - because meeting up will likely be a decent expense of both time and money, but she's making a longer trip than I am to meet up for this, so at least she's highly invested.

Curious what some of you might think.

 

[SW15]

Wow. I am amazed that you are meeting up with a female from East Brunswick, NJ. I'm not well versed on Philadelphia bars. Pick a bar within walking distance of a hotel that you have good logistics for sex.

 

[BPH]

Wow. I am amazed that you are meeting up with a female from East Brunswick, NJ. I'm not well versed on Philadelphia bars. Pick a bar within walking distance of a hotel that you have good logistics for sex.

Context:

She and I went to the same college during the same years. I didn't know her so much as I knew of her, but she had a long-term boyfriend for a while. She moved out of state for a while but posted on Instagram that she was out with some friends in Newark, so I asked if she moved back to DE.

Turns out she was just visiting some friends, but was interested in meeting up with me now that she was single. I have to do a little research on some of the bars I was recommended. One suggestion was a Four Seasons that has a rooftop bar, which might be nice because if things go really well there's a room we can get right there.

Any opinions on how well it would go, considering the message I quoted?

 

[SW15]

One suggestion was a Four Seasons that has a rooftop bar, which might be nice because if things go really well there's a room we can get right there.

Any opinions on how well it would go, considering the message I quoted?

I like the convenience aspect of a hotel rooftop bar in general. However, a room at the Four Seasons is going to be expensive. There might be something less expensive available but there might not be. It is close to a major holiday.

Did you have any thoughts about whether or not she's shiit testing you or more marriage minded?

I might be inclined to think she's shiit testing you. If you get together in-person, she might be into your physique and personality. You have 90+ notches to your name and can seduce. You are sort of a random hot guy who sent her a DM on Instagram.

 

[BPH]

I like the convenience aspect of a hotel rooftop bar in general. However, a room at the Four Seasons is going to be expensive. There might be something less expensive available but there might not be. It is close to a major holiday.

Did you have any thoughts about whether or not she's shiit testing you or more marriage minded?

I might be inclined to think she's shiit testing you. If you get together in-person, she might be into your physique and personality. You have 90+ notches to your name and can seduce. You are sort of a random hot guy who sent her a DM on Instagram.

Not sure. She did have a LONG term boyfriend for a while, not actually sure when they broke up. It won't stop me from showing up and finding out how she is in person, but I'm wondering if anybody reads that and thinks I'd be wasting my time.

 

[Clockwerk50]

I would have been more vague in answering her question, something like, 'I'm looking for things that aren't overly complicated.' Either way, she might be assessing whether the effort is worth it, and if she just got out of a relationship, she might not be ready for something serious right now. Who knows?

As for Philadelphia, all I know about it is the Liberty Bell, haha

 

[BPH]

Update.

None of this mattered. She had to cancel Friday night because she was up late texting me Thursday night (till like 4:30AM). She offered Sunday, otherwise we would be looking at next weekend, and I neither wanted to wait that long nor deal with Thanksgiving/Black Friday traffic.

Ended up picking a random bar at about the halfway point from each other. Date went well, she didn't mind escalating, and after about an hour and a half I offered we go somewhere else. She was receptive to the idea of getting a room, but kept reiterating that she's a classy girl and doesn't f*** on the first date and wanted to make sure that I didn't have that expectation of her.

I told her that we could do whatever she's comfortable with. Picked out a random motel about 5 minutes away, booked a room, and she ended up changing her mind after some foreplay as long as I didn't "hit it and quit it". Smashed twice, spent the night, woke up early so I could drive to work.

Incredibly tired, but overall had a fun time.

 

[Clockwerk50]