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I prefer dogs...but I think that caring about it and writing an entire post about it and posting in a thread about it (myself included) is fvcking weird.

We're the nerds we hate. Seriously.
 

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This is why I have no pets. Keep them b1tches guessing. #srsplaya
 

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Nutz said:
I have 3 cats, 2 by choice and 1 my ex dumped on me.
Funny, the cat I have was dumped on me by the first woman I was engaged to over ten years ago.

That fvcker used to go out, kill rabbits and drag them home. He was also the alpha of the neighborhood. He'd get into a fight and mop the floor with every cat in the neighborhood just so he could prove that he owned it.

He'd also dig a hole in the middle of the neighbor's yard, 5hit in it, and just leave it there. He didn't give a damn about burying it.

He hated kids and would claw them. He also would bite you if he was remotely pissed off.

He's now in his late teens and is pretty old. He's a big sucky baby now who tolerates my kid without scratching or biting. All he wants to do now is have his head scratched and sleep on someone's lap.
 

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Appleade said:
This is another one of those "only Alphas own/do [insert activity or object]" things.

When I was in high school, my math teacher was telling me a story about a famous bull fighter who was very well respected. If I can remember correctly, he was washing dishes while many fans stood outside of his house. His friend laments to him that washing dishes is not a very manly thing to do, and that he should avoid being seen doing it.

He responds "Anything I do is manly.
Carlos Xumas advocates being 70% masculine, 30% feminine. Or maybe it was 80/20, I don't remember the exact percentages. The point was you needed a little of the feminine to have women relate to you, to be 100% masculine would be too overbearing. If that's true, that means a guy could be "too manly". I'm not sure if he's right or not, but that's what he says.

It makes you wonder, because you would think a guy that was 100% masculine woud be alpha.

Lexington said:
Cats display more alpha qualities. They don't need their owners at all really. They are perfectly capable of hunting their own prey and they don't need company although they will gladly take it if it suits them. Cats do what they want and they're not concerned with impressing anyone or anything.
Cats may have more alpha qualities, but a dog would probably be the alpha between the two. Because in most cases a dog would kill a cat in a fight. Of course dogs are pack animals, so they know how to take up a beta position, while cats are independent.
 

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zekko said:
Cats may have more alpha qualities, but a dog would probably be the alpha between the two. Because in most cases a dog would kill a cat in a fight. Of course dogs are pack animals, so they know how to take up a beta position, while cats are independent.
Alpha qualities don't depend on size. Yes it is easier to be dominant and to assert your will if you are physically stronger, but that doesn't make you alpha. A cat displays more alpha qualities than a dog. Besides, strongest representatives of the feline family would absolutely maul any canine.

The domestic dog is in fact an omega wolf. Most wolves seek to ascend to the highest place in the pack hierarchy. Dogs have been bred to be happy with being at the bottom. They live to please their masters whereas cats live to please themselves.

I guess if you wanted a nice trade-off between cats and dogs and you're willing to put in the extra work, a wolf dog would have both animals' best qualities.
 

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Damn my brothers and I had pretty much every standard pet you could have at different times.

Dogs: Boxer was the best we owned. Mutt, poodles (those things served to be teased by us..nasty little things..we were young..lol)

Cats: had many over the years.

Fish: I had SEVERAL tanks in my basement. 4 at one time. A LOT of Cichlids, HUGE cichlids, albino and blue channel catfish, redtail catfish, alligator gars, snakeheads, Freshwater ray, Wolf Fish, Electric catfish, Snakeheads, Clown Knife, Pike...pretty much every kind of big freshwater fish. Haven't had tanks in years. Need to get a few huge tanks setup again. Especially after seeing MonsterFishKeepers on youtube. Great pets.

Parrot: Worst pet ever. Noisy as HELL. Messy. And a waste of money. I'd never get a bird as a pet again. Had parakeets in pre teens. We pretty much wiped them out...

Rabbit: Another waste for a pet. Would never get one for a kid.

Hamsters: When really young. Used them as bean bags to toss around. Good for a kid. Unfortunately we were a little rough with them though.

Sankes: Columbian Red Tail Boa 9ft. and garter snake at another time. Good quiet pets. Red tail ate rats, chickens, rabbits.

I don't look too much into the dog cat thing. Have two dogs and two cats now. If a chick thought it was 'un-manly' to have cats as a pet...I'd just laugh it off.
 

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Naughty Ninja said:
Damn my brothers and I had pretty much every standard pet you could have at different times.

Dogs: Boxer was the best we owned. Mutt, poodles (those things served to be teased by us..nasty little things..we were young..lol)

Cats: had many over the years.

Fish: I had SEVERAL tanks in my basement. 4 at one time. A LOT of Cichlids, HUGE cichlids, albino and blue channel catfish, redtail catfish, alligator gars, snakeheads, Freshwater ray, Wolf Fish, Electric catfish, Snakeheads, Clown Knife, Pike...pretty much every kind of big freshwater fish. Haven't had tanks in years. Need to get a few huge tanks setup again. Especially after seeing MonsterFishKeepers on youtube. Great pets.

Parrot: Worst pet ever. Noisy as HELL. Messy. And a waste of money. I'd never get a bird as a pet again. Had parakeets in pre teens. We pretty much wiped them out...

Rabbit: Another waste for a pet. Would never get one for a kid.

Hamsters: When really young. Used them as bean bags to toss around. Good for a kid. Unfortunately we were a little rough with them though.

Sankes: Columbian Red Tail Boa 9ft. and garter snake at another time. Good quiet pets. Red tail ate rats, chickens, rabbits.

I don't look too much into the dog cat thing. Have two dogs and two cats now. If a chick thought it was 'un-manly' to have cats as a pet...I'd just laugh it off.
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Dear Origin,
Churchill had it right...He disliked Cats saw them as contemptuous,Dogs?well he thought they were just too submissive and fawning...Pigs though he thought were just the trick,they treat you as an equal he thought...
Me?An old Staffy,very practical to own,cats?too often implicated in Leukemia transmission,kill all the birds,great for mice though...Years ago used to shoot Bunnies on the property of two old Batchelors...remember they had a pet Hare,name of Harold...well Harold was a walloping great thing,must of been 15 pounds...used to camp up in a laundry basket by the fire,and who betide any hapless Moggy that wanted to share the warmth...Harold would rise up on his hindquarters,spit,hiss and thump like a prizefighter....
On a more relevant note,the mindset of Pet owners is interesting,we advertise our personality to the World by everything we do...Certainly if you want to meet Ladies then a Dog walking Park is a fertile hunting ground....Happy Days.
 

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Lexington said:
Alpha qualities don't depend on size. Yes it is easier to be dominant and to assert your will if you are physically stronger, but that doesn't make you alpha. A cat displays more alpha qualities than a dog. Besides, strongest representatives of the feline family would absolutely maul any canine.
I agree the cat has more alpha qualities, but put him against a dog and in most cases the dog is going to kill the cat (depends on the breed I suppose). I'm not sure if a cat could kill a dog. Which would make the dog the literal alpha there. Although you do hear about cases where there is a big dog who is subservient to the family cat.

Obviously a lion or tiger would kill a dog, but we're talking about pets here. Not too many people own a lion or tiger as a pet, not if they're in their right mind anyway.
 

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zekko said:
I agree the cat has more alpha qualities, but put him against a dog and in most cases the dog is going to kill the cat (depends on the breed I suppose). I'm not sure if a cat could kill a dog. Which would make the dog the literal alpha there. Although you do hear about cases where there is a big dog who is subservient to the family cat.

Obviously a lion or tiger would kill a dog, but we're talking about pets here. Not too many people own a lion or tiger as a pet, not if they're in their right mind anyway.
Alpha, in the sense that we're talking about here, is contextual. Of course, a muscled meathead would probably stomp me if I were to suddenly be pitted against him in a one-on-one enclosed brawl.
 

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Appleade said:
Alpha, in the sense that we're talking about here, is contextual
Well, we're not talking alpha in the sense of picking up chicks, are we? :)
In the animal kindgom, it's who has the best weapons/physical superiority.

Man has a society set up where some guys can achieve an alpha type status by being CEO of a company or whatever. Otherwise, generally alpha is the guy girls look to that can take control of a situation and enforce his will - that is generally the biggest, most capable male physically.

Pickup gurus have tried to extend the meaning to include a guy with good self esteem or whatever, which is a feelgood definition but it has little to do with actually being alpha. Alpha literally means "first", so you have to be the top guy, at least at something.

For the record, I prefer cats. Low maintenance, and not as noisy.
 

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I figured you'd be a dog guy!

Years ago, I got stuck with a cluster B psycho female cat. It had only one ear as a tumor was found in the other and the vet took her ear off. Fvckin thing literally lived on top of the dryer in the laundry room and hissed at everyone who came through the back door. She was a bytch!

We called her Ol' One Ear
 

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Pound for pound, cats are better fighters. I'd put my money on a 10lb cat over a 15 lb dog if you put them in close quarters and had them fight. Obviously a 60 lb dog would maul most cats but that's not really a fair fight.
 

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Lexington said:
Pound for pound, cats are better fighters. I'd put my money on a 10lb cat over a 15 lb dog if you put them in close quarters and had them fight.
I tend to think that the cat would probably win in a skirmish, it would scratch the dog, then they would disengage. But in a fight to the death I think the dog would win - the dog's jaws are the most lethal weapon either has. But hell, what do I know? I'm no animal expert.

Maybe Michael Vick knows the answer.
 

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San Jose California said:
That's exactly what the hell I'm saying. Anyone who thinks cats are more girly than dogs, simply hasn't seen an actual cat fight. Cat fights are way more savage than dog fights.

The cats will leap 4 feet in the air and fight in a ball in midair with fur flying everywhere and loud ass sounds. And the fights can last hours. Dogs, and while you're at it, humans, are pussies compared to cats when it comes to fighting.
Well, maybe the dogs are the bigger "pvssies". :)

But the reason cat fights can last so long is that domestic cats are not designed to kill an animal the size of another cat. They might maul each other and rip off an ear or something. But they're designed to kill mice, chipmunks, and such. That's why I think the dog would win in a battle to the death.
 

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Essentially, being alpha is being a leader, and a leader thinks for himself and likes what he wants to like.When a person matures and develops a better understanding of himself (which is a life-long process), I think being "alpha" becomes less and less important. Instead of worrying about being alpha, why not concern yourself with being the best YOU that you can be (as corny as that may sound).
 

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