Personal Trainer vs Door Man vs Club/Bar DJ

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I was actually a DJ for a while and it was literally the only time in my life I had attractive, 20 years younger than myself, women throwing themselves at me. I mean they would grab my phone and text themselves so they would have my number. It was no effort whatsoever on my part and i can only attribute it to being a DJ.
 

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Personal Trainer vs Door Man vs The Club/Bar DJ

Out of the following jobs/careers who do you think gets the most opportunities to bang lots of females?

Or are these type of jobs glorified as being puzzy magnets, but the reality is somewhat different.
The reality is always somewhat different. However, of the three, would have to say club DJ, by far.

A "personal trainer" is a servant. So is a door man. A DJ, on the other hand, is the man who controls the music, the crowd, and basically the entire scene. That gives him instant status and respect. If you're a DJ at a popular club, you don't even have to do anything to pick up women. The will always be slvts who just want to fvck the DJ.
 

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Personal Trainer vs Door Man vs The Club/Bar DJ

Out of the following jobs/careers who do you think gets the most opportunities to bang lots of females?

Or are these type of jobs glorified as being puzzy magnets, but the reality is somewhat different.
I worked as a bouncer when I was in college. Trust me when I say that if you do this for a couple of years you will want nothing to do with bar chicks. Sure you have plenty of opportunities, but no more really then if you are a dude that goes to these places every night.

A big part of your job is to read situations and diffuse situations before they get bad. At least 3 times a night, some drunk @ass chick would come up to you, needing your 'help' with some dude she isn't interested in. Just as often as not, the dude was just not interested in her... and this would p1ss off the chick. It was aggravating as fvck dealing with a bunch of drunks. You also learn that many bar altercations are actually started by chicks because they are bored. Seriously, this sh1t used to happen all the time... there would be a couple... and the chick would start openly flirting with another dude just to get something started.

I actually tossed out more women than dudes in the club I used to work at. The Bachelorette parties were the worst. I was trained by a guy named Dave Fermery, anytime he saw a group coming in with one of the women wearing a "Bachelorette" sash and a gaggle of chicks matching t-shirts like "Bach's B1tches", he would say "Oh fvck..." and assign a bouncer just to keep an eye on that group.

You learn pretty quick that the best way to diffuse situations is to keep your eye on the chicks... They are seldom the ones that will get into physical altercations, but where fights break out with dudes, 3 out of 4 times it was some chick that instigated it.

You really learn a lot about human nature, and if you are a bouncer that is spending time with chicks, you aren't doing your job. If you aren't telling women "Leave me alone." every night you will get fired. At the end of your shift, the last thing you want to do is go home with one of these drunk @ss chicks with puke on her shoes. In fact, the last job you have at 2 am is escorting waitresses to their cars because there frequently would be drunk dudes waiting outside to hit on a waitress who he THINKS likes him.
 

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I worked as a bouncer when I was in college. Trust me when I say that if you do this for a couple of years you will want nothing to do with bar chicks. Sure you have plenty of opportunities, but no more really then if you are a dude that goes to these places every night.

A big part of your job is to read situations and diffuse situations before they get bad. At least 3 times a night, some drunk @ass chick would come up to you, needing your 'help' with some dude she isn't interested in. Just as often as not, the dude was just not interested in her... and this would p1ss off the chick. It was aggravating as fvck dealing with a bunch of drunks. You also learn that many bar altercations are actually started by chicks because they are bored. Seriously, this sh1t used to happen all the time... there would be a couple... and the chick would start openly flirting with another dude just to get something started.

I actually tossed out more women than dudes in the club I used to work at. The Bachelorette parties were the worst. I was trained by a guy named Dave Fermery, anytime he saw a group coming in with one of the women wearing a "Bachelorette" sash and a gaggle of chicks matching t-shirts like "Bach's B1tches", he would say "Oh fvck..." and assign a bouncer just to keep an eye on that group.

You learn pretty quick that the best way to diffuse situations is to keep your eye on the chicks... They are seldom the ones that will get into physical altercations, but where fights break out with dudes, 3 out of 4 times it was some chick that instigated it.

You really learn a lot about human nature, and if you are a bouncer that is spending time with chicks, you aren't doing your job. If you aren't telling women "Leave me alone." every night you will get fired. At the end of your shift, the last thing you want to do is go home with one of these drunk @ss chicks with puke on her shoes. In fact, the last job you have at 2 am is escorting waitresses to their cars because there frequently would be drunk dudes waiting outside to hit on a waitress who he THINKS likes him.
I'm mostly a bar/ club go'er, but nothing good ever came from those bachelorette groups that walk in. One of the snobbiest women you will ever meet.
 

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a club is different than a bar :)

in clubs usually the average age is between 20 and 30 , but there people till late in their 40s

in the high end clubs usually you have the people that have the money + girls that are poorer and go there In the hopes of being hooked by a guy that has money

in terms of guys with money , money alone will not make a woman wet unless she is a h00ker , nor it will f8ck her good

if you rely on money to get laid , yes , you will get laid with the women who value money above anything else , but they will still sleep with the pool boy , or any other guy that she finds attractive

very difficult to find a man that has both good looks , money , is smart socially , etc etc
Ok so clubs are for amateur hookers who probably ask for too much. And everyone still drinks there so that's no different.

I have nothing against paying a hooker.... But I'm never going to pretend it's a real relationship, or have a relationship based on giving money to a girl.
 

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Ok so clubs are for amateur hookers who probably ask for too much. And everyone still drinks there so that's no different.

I have nothing against paying a hooker.... But I'm never going to pretend it's a real relationship, or have a relationship based on giving money to a girl.
man , you have issues :)

normal women go to this type of places every now and then , mainly because it is the birthday of a friend or because she broke up with his bf and wants to be free for a while and loose some nights with their friends
 

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man , you have issues :)

normal women go to this type of places every now and then , mainly because it is the birthday of a friend or because she broke up with his bf and wants to be free for a while and loose some nights with their friends
Still sounds like a place I don't want to go.

I used to go to bars and clubs all the time. But since I stopped drinking you realize these places are just fake.

Although there's definitely hot girls there.
 

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Club DJ, but personal trainer will get higher value.
most personal trainers sleep with late 20s till middle 30s women , that usually were dumped

very difficult to get something of really good quality only from being a personal trainer

a bartender in a push club has way more women around him both quality and quantity wise , especially since you never have the same people ther e
 

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The reality is always somewhat different. However, of the three, would have to say club DJ, by far.

A "personal trainer" is a servant. So is a door man. A DJ, on the other hand, is the man who controls the music, the crowd, and basically the entire scene. That gives him instant status and respect. If you're a DJ at a popular club, you don't even have to do anything to pick up women. The will always be slvts who just want to fvck the DJ.
I think there is a level of power a dj has, when he drops that killer track that drives the ladies wild.

However from a biological perspective, I can see how females would be super attracted to the door man, on a primal level these guys to her are like the strong protector & the most dominant of all men at the venue.

Pretty much every single male within the bar/club has to fall into line, or those boys can easily kick his azz out.

Personally I would rather go down the DJ route, so I don't have to physically deal with drunk morons all of the time, also what job can be better than playing your favourite music & watching people lose there shiit to your djing skills?
 

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I was a doorman/bouncer for an afterhours club that played live music and did ok.

Having the ability to pick, choose, and refuse who will or won't get in has a sense of power that attracts some females.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Personal Trainer vs Door Man vs The Club/Bar DJ

Out of the following jobs/careers who do you think gets the most opportunities to bang lots of females?

Or are these type of jobs glorified as being puzzy magnets, but the reality is somewhat different.
I’ve had this discussion a few times.
Former professional club/bar DJ.

I had one residency. I was paid £140 a night which in dollars in today’s terms is about $300. Plus free drinks. Place had 2 floors. Probably 750 capacity but I got maybe 100 on the dance floor. I also did cameos at dance nights playing the smaller rooms, often wasn’t paid but got the odd £100. I also did a few really big events in London.

My name was on flyers but I wasn’t on the headline act. I had a little gang so I could always pull 10-20 mates to nights which always made you bookable.

so, that’s the kind of DJ I was. Not massive just a solid local DJ, face in the scene, and I met some pretty big names and hung out with some of them.

it is not, at the level I was at, a massive pvssy fest. I was overweight for some of it, but in shape for most of it. You def do better than average joes.

a total Chad on the dance floor will get more.

girls want to hang with you but it doesn’t mean they all want to fvck you.

plus you’re at work. You can’t speak with them much. It’s a bit weird trying to game chicks in 30 second breaks, or maybe 5 mins if you’re going back to back. I was part of a duo. My buddy is dead now sadly. He was a total chad but he got women anyway.

as said above. Career on good money is worth way more. I was probably earning £500 a week at the peak of I really hustled. That was a good week. Mostly I was doing odd work as well. Plus the lifestyle is mainly drug and drink focussed.

The amusing thing was the dudes who were desperate to be DJs and producers handing me their mixes. I mean A/ you don’t really get jobs through being good, (I was good, we were actually awesome and got most of our work not because we had a massive following - we did zero self promotion, but we were very into the music and the others in the scene gave us a bit of kudos, plus my mixing skills were the best out there and still are. I could always flawlessly beat match and cut records when almost passing out!) and B/ why the F am I going to promote another DJ to get my job?!!

if you want to be a DJ, start your own night, ask a bar for work and then invite others to play. They will give you sets back. That’s how it works.!

anyway hope this informs.

I reckon in the 2 years I was really doing well I got 10-15 lays. Probably one every 3rd week maybe? However if I’d just been a going out I reckon it might have been one every 6 weeks? It’s quite hard to remember. Usually you go back to an after party. The girls come back and you’re just another guy there, there is no automatic right and the other dudes who were better looking than I stood a better chance - girls prefer a great looking guy who is “mates with all the DJs” more than the actual DJ if he’s pretty average - as I was . I was also usually too off my tits to do much. Sad to say but I had some real drug issues back then.
if I’d had my shyt together then I reckon you could make it very succesful. I wasn’t that bothered. The kudos from being the DJ and getting laid once in a while was enough, I didn’t need endless lays, or i didnt want to put the effort in and put the mirror and the note down

it’s not that amazing. Dropping tunes to packed dance floors was much more fun, that’s what I lived for. And the drugs.
 
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I think there is a level of power a dj has, when he drops that killer track that drives the ladies wild.

However from a biological perspective, I can see how females would be super attracted to the door man, on a primal level these guys to her are like the strong protector & the most dominant of all men at the venue.

Pretty much every single male within the bar/club has to fall into line, or those boys can easily kick his azz out.

Personally I would rather go down the DJ route, so I don't have to physically deal with drunk morons all of the time, also what job can be better than playing your favourite music & watching people lose there shiit to your djing skills?
I don't know about that. From my experience, more often than not, club bouncers tend to be big/fat linebacker types, as opposed to Mr. Olympia bodybuilder types. Women generally don't find those body types particularly attractive. Also, in terms of sheer status, bouncers are pretty low on the club totem pole (behind the DJ and bartenders). To be honest, I have never seen women swoon over bouncers at clubs. But maybe it depends on location?
 
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I don't know about that. From my experience, more often than not, club bouncers tend to be big/fat linebacker types, as opposed to Mr. Olympia bodybuilder types. Women generally don't find those body types particularly attractive. Also, in terms of sheer status, bouncers are pretty low on the club totem poll (behind the DJ and bartenders). To be honest, I have never seen women swoon over bouncers in clubs. Bu maybe it depends on location?
Yep. Like a tonne of things in 'game', location and culture is HUGE. Sometimes I think all discussions should be country or even COUNTY specific lol.
Like, where i live in the UK (and i'd assume most of the UK) being a barman is so far from a job of 'status' - but i've lost count of the number of times American people on forums etc talk like being a barman in a good bar is some sort of high status job. It just isn't like that here (which might explain why, like I said in one of my earlier posts, being a barman didn't help any of my non chad friends get laid more lol)

I wonder if it's in part due to the drinking age here or the general culture of no place being 'hard' to get into. A bit like how hot girls don't tend to be able to 'line jump' like they do in the US (which I guess could give a bouncer some leverage in teh US). I dunno. There must be reasons for the apparent difference

But here, bouncers are generally not liked. (like you, i've also certainly never noticed a trend of bouncers being swooned over at all. Although most of them are just heavy set guys and not handsome dudes who workout)
 

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Yep. Like a tonne of things in 'game', location and culture is HUGE. Sometimes I think all discussions should be country or even COUNTY specific lol.
Like, where i live in the UK (and i'd assume most of the UK) being a barman is so far from a job of 'status' - but i've lost count of the number of times American people on forums etc talk like being a barman in a good bar is some sort of high status job. It just isn't like that here (which might explain why, like I said in one of my earlier posts, being a barman didn't help any of my non chad friends get laid more lol)

I wonder if it's in part due to the drinking age here or the general culture of no place being 'hard' to get into. A bit like how hot girls don't tend to be able to 'line jump' like they do in the US (which I guess could give a bouncer some leverage in teh US). I dunno. There must be reasons for the apparent difference

But here, bouncers are generally not liked. (like you, i've also certainly never noticed a trend of bouncers being swooned over at all. Although most of them are just heavy set guys and not handsome dudes who workout)
Re bar jobs, think it's due to tge tipping system which can make it quite lucrative if you get a job at the right places- could be wrong. Basically no tips outside of restaurants in UK.

In the uk I think it's close to minimum wage work, plus working funny hours, doesn't make it appealing to most.

As for bouncers, i have noticed them being chatted up before - or at least speaking to women in the club.
 

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I don't know about that. From my experience, more often than not, club bouncers tend to be big/fat linebacker types, as opposed to Mr. Olympia bodybuilder types. Women generally don't find those body types particularly attractive. Also, in terms of sheer status, bouncers are pretty low on the club totem poll (behind the DJ and bartenders). To be honest, I have never seen women swoon over bouncers in clubs. Bu maybe it depends on location?
Yeah. You also have to take into account how much time each staff member has to actually interact with the chicks.

The bartender (unless super busy) has the most time to chat. DJ would be #2 as he can chat with the chick between songs. Then the bouncer #3 while making rounds around the place.

Doorman is maybe #4. His interactions are very brief because he has a whole line of people to size up, check IDs, etc.
 

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Mel Gibson said he got more azz as a bartender in NYC than he ever did as an actor.
 

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I worked as a bouncer when I was in college. Trust me when I say that if you do this for a couple of years you will want nothing to do with bar chicks. Sure you have plenty of opportunities, but no more really then if you are a dude that goes to these places every night.
It is good to have a former bouncer contribute to the conversation.

I actually tossed out more women than dudes in the club I used to work at. The Bachelorette parties were the worst. I was trained by a guy named Dave Fermery, anytime he saw a group coming in with one of the women wearing a "Bachelorette" sash and a gaggle of chicks matching t-shirts like "Bach's B1tches", he would say "Oh fvck..." and assign a bouncer just to keep an eye on that group.
Bachelorette parties are nothing but trouble. Often, the groups are too large for guys to effectively approach them. There are stories of guys banging members of bachelorette parties. However, most bachelorette parties are full of women seeking attention rather than sex for the night.
 

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I’m a door man, I could probably bang something new almost every week if I was more aggressive and willing to take lower hanging fruit.
 
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