Perceived value of the cooch.

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I was talking to a buddy of mine the other day after work. We both know this woman.

Her....43 yrs old, blonde, blue and about a 7 for her age. Bi-polar. Takes valium 4 times a day. On social security disability for persistent migraines. Takes oxycontin for it. Divorced, 3 kids and drinks like a fish.

My buddy gets with her after he gets off work for drinks. She says "if you think I'm gonna sleep with you, it's not gonna happen. I adhere to the 6 month rule". He says "WTF is that"? She says, "I won't sleep with anyone until they have dated ME for 6 months!!!! So I ask him, "what did you say"?

He says he told her "first, I don't want to sleep with you tonight, and I'm not about to sit around digging splinters out of my arse, pining for you for the next 6 months"! :moon:

He also said that she said it would be well worth the wait!!! This gal places such a high value on her cooch, it's simply astounding!

Needless to say, my buddy told her to F off and left.

Crazy b!tch :crazy:
 

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5string said:
Her....43 yrs old, blonde, blue and about a 7 for her age. Bi-polar. Takes valium 4 times a day. On social security disability for persistent migraines. Takes oxycontin for it. Divorced, 3 kids and drinks like a fish.
Wow. Quite a catch, ain't she?


"if you think I'm gonna sleep with you, it's not gonna happen. I adhere to the 6 month rule".
Hahaha! Now THAT my friends, is what I call being delusional!

Sounds to me like Susie here is not aware of her true current market value. Well, at least to real men. ;)
 

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vataloco....you got it.

Despite the fact she's a basket case, her expiration date has expired. She thinks just because she has a greezzzy little hole between her legs, it gives her more value as a human being.

Gotta hand it to my friend for handling this the way he did.
 

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He should have said, "Who says we're dating?" then proceed to hit on other ladies in the bar.

She is delusional, but also, she might have a following of a bunch of losers complimenting her every move to make her feel so high and mighty. It's pretty sad.
 

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A lot of girls these days have effectively priced themselves out of the market. They have a totally unrealistic idea of how much guys value their product. Sure some guys will play along and pretend to be genuinely interested, but really they're just in it for the pump and dump. Then a lot of these chicks will be left wondering "why are guys such a$$holes?"

I know a girl who's getting up there in age (33), is way past her prime and she's not really attractive. I guess the fact that she's not grossly overweight is a plus these days. She has a $hit job and she's hundreds of grand in debt. Yet she's still holding out for a prince charming! All her female friends keep reinforcing her delusion, so her perception of her market value is massively exaggerated.

Sometimes I want to pull her aside and make her wake up and smell the coffee. But I know it would only be an exercise in futility.
 

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I would say, "There are too many decent women around for me to need to put up with that delusional sh!t" and walk away.

Then I would proceed to game the next delusional broad. And then the next. And the next....
 

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I will say, I am amazed at guys who date women, who are just ****ing incompatible for the sake of poon. oh she's so great, she's amazing, all means basically she puts out. I know a dude, the girl, could not possibly be any worse for dude. he's a gym rat, she will cry at you mentioning the word gym. he has a very strong work ethic, she's lazy. he's very outgoing, she's very cynical, spiteful
 

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I'm always amused when they say "it'll be worth the wait"....like their vagina is going to be so radically different from the dozens of others you've experienced. The mechanics of sex dont change. D!ck gets hard, pvssy gets wet, insert d!ck, repeat. It makes much more of a difference if you are into each other and have some sexual chemistry.
 

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I'm usually the first one to complain about women's delusional self-valuation... but in this case I don't see much wrong with it. If she wants to wait 6 months to have sex, that's her prerogative. Besides, just because she says 6 months doesn't mean he would actually have to wait 6 months. Isn't this just the typical woman ASD, playing hard to get thing?

I don't think I would mind waiting for a girl to put out as long as we could hang out and cuddle and watch tv lol. Especially when I consider that this expectation of women putting out within 3 dates is a modern phenomenon and has little to do with traditional cultures.
 

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omkara said:
I'm usually the first one to complain about women's delusional self-valuation... but in this case I don't see much wrong with it. If she wants to wait 6 months to have sex, that's her prerogative. Besides, just because she says 6 months doesn't mean he would actually have to wait 6 months. Isn't this just the typical woman ASD, playing hard to get thing?

I don't think I would mind waiting for a girl to put out as long as we could hang out and cuddle and watch tv lol. Especially when I consider that this expectation of women putting out within 3 dates is a modern phenomenon and has little to do with traditional cultures.
Yeah, and before 1950 men could legally beat their wives, force them to have sex and bang wh0res at 25 cents a pop while society looked the other way. This isn't back then this is now. Now the market it flooded with young slvts and old cougars giving it up fast, as well as more porn than you could ever jack off to online.

There is no reason to put up with that b.s. Some women try to raise the price on their broken hymen after its worn out. Most likely the same ones who slvtted it up through their youth. When they try to pull this, the best course of action is to tell them to go to hell. Then go fvck a young slvt, or an old cougar, or jack off to porn, or fvck a wh0re, or a sex doll, or get a flight overseas, or play a video game, watch some sports.

Women who try to make you work hard for a worn-out pvssy like they're young virginal beauty queens aren't worth the time. If a woman is older and uglier she better give it up fast or else I'm not wasting my time on it. Hand grip feels better then a loose vagina and it won't give me any diseases or yap at me after I ejaculate.
 

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I place no value on "my broken hymen" as PappyS puts it. But I do place value on my ability to pleasure myself and my male counterpart. My ability to learn, feel, and experience him has no price; it's a gift. Women should spend less time bartering out there body parts and learn to be women, beautiful, intelligent, sensuous women.
 

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vcumenina said:
Women should spend less time bartering out there body parts and learn to be women, beautiful, intelligent, sensuous women.
Unfortunately the demand for "body parts" by wannabe PUA's and needy betas has risen in the past genertion or two, and the demand for " beautiful, intelligent, sensuouis women" has dropped.
Add in the feminist mantra, and the Sex in the City mentality and you get what you see out there in today's singles scene.
 

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Time is money. I'd tell her that I'd make 40 extra K if I just simply worked more than seeing her sorry as5. I wouldn't fvck her after 2 hours! is what I'd say.

Now, tonight, I've got choices man, but I think that I'm going with a very young - kinda shy - spanish chick, instead of a mid-20s plumper typical American hippo sandwich-woofing girl, although I Could try to fvck her before I get with the young'un later tonight. It's about 60 degrees out. I will fvck one of them. They will both be at the place I'm going to tonight, maybe at the same time - they don't know each other. I'm not too attracted to the mid-20s one, just would like to fvck her tonight, but would be a little embarrassed if people knew I had fvcked her, kinda fat, kinda ugly in the face, a little man-looking, but I'm horny.

Have already setup getting with the young'un tonight through a spur of the moment phone call to her at 3 PM this afternoon. I'd tried to get with her about 2-3 weeks ago (can't remember) but she got spooked when someone said something derogatory about me, I think that I was no good for her, would ruin her, whatever. She'll be with friends before I meet her. I will fvck her. I will report. Kinda nervous cause she's so quiet, but I will break through and fvck her, I hope...Things can always go south, but as of this afternoon, we're on. I still have the fat ug for backup.

Another I've been trying to get with for half a year wants to see me tomorrow, but I told her I can't about an hour ago. I told her to meet me tonight, because if she was with me Seen by others there, then that'd help my chances of getting into the shy one's pants even more.

About old (40s) women from the OP. I met a young-acting/dressing (the biker/goth type loop hoop belt - could see her crack in jeans) one yesterday while working - perfect weather - she looked down my d!ck while we were talking...I could tell that, because of the perfect weather and she was leaving work early because of it, she was uncontrollably horny. If there hadn't been her co-workers (good-looking confident men themselves who would/have fvcked her too probably) I'd probably attempt to fvck her while on the job in her office with nobody around and windows open letting in the perfect spring air. That was the first old woman I've been horny for in a while because she dressed the part loosely like a younger girl would.
 

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damn dudes, nada nothing..I'm amazed at how buying temp can be sooo high and then flatten when the time comes to cume in her as5. Not only did the young spaniard chicka flake on me (mutherfvck I confirmed by calling her 1.5 hours before she was suppose to be there), but the other hoggish Dumbo chick missed me too, but she called me apologizing while I was on my way home, and I told her that I could not turn around and go back to her place. She asked to come over to my place but I told her she really would want to do that I live in [town I live in about an hour away] and she was talking with her friend in the car to see how far I was, she still wanted to come!! I'm like, noooo I'm too tired to fvckin entertain your as5 now...see you some other time. Fvckin biateches waste my time. Well, now I'm 0-4 past 4 weeks. It's really no water off my back, though, cause I KNoW I'll be getting some, maybe a Lot, by the end of fall. I'm so happy because pvssy isn't as hard to come by as it once was when I was younger. After you've fvcked a lot, it's like riding a bike...you Become the bike, a fvcker.
 

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I just remembered something I was thinking about a few weeks ago; bumping this thread instead of starting a new one.

When a girl who is clearly into me decides to play waiting games with her cooch it tells me that she thinks her cooch is the most valuable thing about her. It says I don't think my looks, charm, brains and character are are good enough to interest this guy once I give up the cooch, and she's probably right!

The DJ response to her problem would be to work on one's looks, charm, brains and character; to become a person worthy of interest and admiration, cooch or no cooch. The typical female response is to simply make her cooch scarcer, scarcity creates value, but it's artificial, she's limiting the supply of a commodity, she's not actually making a better product.

When's the last time you heard of a girl embarking on a program of self-improvement after complaining about being "used for sex" by a string of guys? Just doesn't happen.

Think about that when you're browsing online profiles and you see girls ranting, "I'M NOT HERE FOR SEX", "NO ONE NIGHT STANDS", "NO CASUAL STUFF", "NOTHING SLEAZEY". She's telling you, screaming at you! Nothing of value here, just cooch, move along, nothing to see.
 

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Man, any more I'm so busy that I don't give a sh!t about any bs with a woman. I either screw her that night or whatever bullsh!t happens I'm gonna get up and make money the next day.

Making money is what should be of value to a man. The "value" of the cooch should actually be arbitrary to him, for he knows that it is a fleeting pleasure that is often nowhere near the price that is eventually paid for it.

A man must be a sovereign end within himself, he must be the master of his own life before he is worthy to be the master of others.

Chasing ***** distracts us from what really matters, from what is really of value. You should value your creative ability, you should value your own life far above any social bs, including chasing tail. Man, women are just a fun saturday night activity for me; what I value is making money and finding more ways to expand my facility to make money. I have been called greedy, my name has been dragged through the mud, but my conscience is spotless, because in all my endeavors I have honored the rights of individuals, both myself and others. I have never swindled or even strong-armed another man in any venture; my intent has been to create an equitable exchange between parties.

And that is what is lacking, when you value the cooch too highly: an equitable exchange. In doing so you offer on a plate a high degree of power over you, when you value women too much you naturally place yourself at a severe disadvantage. Your priorities are skewed and your future is dubious, unless you hear what I am saying.
 

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It was a sh-t test. She could be looking for guys who will break through it or good providers (doormats) who will do her bidding for the long haul. I'd say she set a very fair price, personally.

She could be completely delusional, but I doubt it. She knows her value, and if she was attractive enough for your friend to give it a shot, there's plenty of guys out there she has to choose from.
 

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5string said:
She says, "I won't sleep with anyone until they have dated ME for 6 months!!!!
For some reason I doubt that she means it, or if she does I bet she doesn't hold to it, especially if she drinks like a fish.
If she told me that I'd just laugh and say "Yeah, right".

You know, 5string, I never really thought about that name before, is that a banjo reference?

Julius_Seizeher said:
Chasing ***** distracts us from what really matters, from what is really of value. You should value your creative ability, you should value your own life far above any social bs, including chasing tail. Man, women are just a fun saturday night activity for me; what I value is making money and finding more ways to expand my facility to make money.
I agree that a man's focus should be making money. It's not a greed thing, it's just that it's the key to supporting yourself, living well, being able to stand on your own two feet.

Since you want to marginalize the importance of women so much, it makes me wonder how that meshes with things like the bootcamp, where you go out and train yourself to be a seduction machine.
 
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