People who think it's easy to get girls annoy me

[Ease]

everyone on this site has once in their life had an issue with a woman.

Whether it was problems getting a first date, or a bad break up, we all started off the same.

For some it happens at a young age, and somehow or another we get involved with a girl and the ball start rolling and we learn from experience. Its a long road and lots to learn. But for some it doesnt start rolling untill later.

From 1 interaction to the next, we gain confidence and improve and learn. Experience is essential.

Can you honestly tell me that you've tried to get this ball rolling?

Dont come on to this site and post **** like this before you've actually done the max to get the ball rolling. Have you ever gone to a club and tried to approach 10 women? Have you ever went out every night of a week and approached? Have you ever gone to a club solo just for the sake of it?

Its about building up experience and getting out of your comfort zone to gain confidence. Its this confidence that is what ATTRACTS the girls. Then you get a hair cut and change up your style and your a successful natural like anyone else.

Everyone here was once crap at getting a date, but after finding this site eventually you get over this and learn a lot. Then you'll get your one night stands, relationships, **** buddies, whatever it is you want.

Iv never had to force myself to approach 10 women, and i have never gone to a club solo, but i once started off with a few silly rejections and an AFC relationship untill i learnt the ways of the game.

Dont come here and spread your wussy afc bull**** with negativity like that. You might have trouble getting your ball rolling, but thats not an excuse to act like a *****. A man might be without a women, but never without his pride.

 

[entgs2]

why do you doubt it's literally true?

Anyway, I'm thinking of asking the girl I liked what about me drives women away? She recently (since I asked her out) started acting like a ***** towards me, so I want to question her as to why.

Haha, I guess it could be true. Doesn't seem like anyone on this forum likes you either, for that matter.

Instead of asking that girl, why not take a bootcamp and have an expert figure it out? I'm not affiliated with any company, or selling anything or anything like that, I'm just thinking out loud that it may be better.

 

[Scion]

I don't have $2000 + cost of flight, hotel, etc to spend on a bootcamp. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those were scams anyways. But that's another discussion entirely.

 

[Solomon79]

And one more thing, don't just act like your buddy who is good with chicks just to get chicks. There are multiple types of personalities of people who get laid by hotties. Some guys are more quiet and laid back, others like being the center of attention. But they all show common traits, like being relaxed and comfortable around women.

Actually this is an interesting one. In general socialising, it's kind of normal to give some of your personal power away. You know, stuff like being animated, testing the water to find things that you have in common, so you can bond. Because it's not the same as turning on the intensity with a woman you are seducing.

Do these things around women, and they will think you are less confident.

Put simply, being good at general socialising versus turning on the sexual intent with women, are two totally different things.

You CANNOT turn women on with humour, being a clown, expecting her to lead parts of the conversation. You could befriend everybody in the world doing those things.

 

[Scion]

Actually this is an interesting one. In general socialising, it's kind of normal to give some of your personal power away. You know, stuff like being animated, testing the water to find things that you have in common, so you can bond. Because it's not the same as turning on the intensity with a woman you are seducing.

Do these things around women, and they will think you are less confident.

Put simply, being good at general socialising versus turning on the sexual intent with women, are two totally different things.

You CANNOT turn women on with humour, being a clown, expecting her to lead parts of the conversation. You could befriend everybody in the world doing those things.

but can you attract women while generally socializing? Like I said (at least I think I said) I'm ok at socializing, maybe not the best. But I have no hope with women. I'm probably gonna start going out alone soon once I move somewhere it's easier to get home from them.

 

[flint]

Well first off before I argue this point I almost gaurente Solomon is better at this than me just because I've read his stuff before, so he's more an expert than I am by far but I'd still like to just point one thing out.

I don't think you need to give away your personal power when socializing, I think in some ways it demonstrates your power.

What I think Solomon means is say you go to the bar, and you go around looking like you're trying to be people's friends and talk to a bunch of people, in that sense you're demonstrating lower value because you need the attention of other people.

But say you're just a naturally fun to be around guy, and you walk into a bar and after telling jokes and maybe talking to some strangers next to you people want to actually talk to you. In that case you've just created social proof.

What I'm trying to say is I think if you know how to socialize in the right way it creates social proof and establish you as the alpha if you're the center of all conversations. But there are certainly situations I think where if you go in trying too hard then yes you will come off giving away your power.

Overall I think humor and good people skills will help your game if used the right way, but there's a wrong way to use them too. Just being a clown and needing people to laugh at your jokes is the wrong way.

But again, Solomon is also the expert here not me, so take this with a grain of salt entirely.

 

[Nutz]

Getting back to the root of this thread, 95% of men will never get good at "game".

 

[Energizer]

For those of us who have struggled with confidence, you have no idea how hollow this sounds. Most of us like ourselves just fine, we just have confidence issues in one specific area - dealing with women. Now for the most part, I've put these confidence problems behind me, but when I was younger they gave me all sorts of trouble. I'm not sure exactly what the source of them was, maybe it was because my father died while I was young and I didn't have a good male role model when I really needed one.

I was speaking directly to Scion, no one else. I wasn't generalising and I certainly wasn't talking about anyone else other than Scion. Quite why you have waded in with your $0.02 on a post that doesn't concern you is beyond me.

There is struggling with confidence and then there is Scion. Scion isn't just a man who is struggling with condifence, he generally has self esteem issues that are more of a hindrance then lacking confidence when it comes to getting women. There are plenty of shy women for shy men to catch. And from what Scion says he has the confidence to walk up to a girl and ask her out. He just needs to change his mindset and his view of himself and he'll be fine, easier said than done, but it's possible.

 

[nismo-4]

Girls are the worst, they think it's so easy to find someone to date (mainly because all they do is sit back and a dozen guys hit on them). Their advice is always, it'll happen when it happens.

I wish I could find a way to become more confident with women, but I can't. I guess I'm just one of those guys that aren't meant to get any women. Sucks, and maybe I should find some way of accepting it. Idk.

Girls do have it easier than men. If a girl is pretty, she's guaranteed a boyfriend, no matter what.

If a man is rich, he's guaranteed a girlfriend, no matter how ugly or low his self esteem is.

You asked a woman for advice and then you asked that same woman out? Bad move! Dude, never ask girls for advice on how to pick them up. They give nice guy sh*t. They say they want a nice guy but when you play that role, she's getting railed by some a$$hole who broke her nose for acting out of line. Or they tell you that the right one will come along soon. That's the gayest sh*t I ever heard.

Naturals give advice that chip away at your self esteem. They say just be yourself and just talk to them. They don't go into detail!

Why don't you stop chasing pu$$y and go work on making your first million?

Also if you want to be an alpha male quickly, there are 3 options that you have. Pick one and run with it!

1. Become a millionaire.
2. Become a famous celebrity.
3. Become a bodybuilder.

When you do one of these things, your personality will be able to shine through!

 

[Scion]

No nismo-4, I didn't ask her for advice and then proceed to ask her out. I asked her out (pretty confidently too, didn't imagine she'd say no), but in a later convo with her she decided to give me that "tip" (didn't ask for it). But your right, girls give **** advice, especially that "just wait, she'll come along" (what? Is it gonna rain hot chicks?). There's one girl that wants to give me advice, wonder what she'll say?