People think I'm AFC!!

[S0LID]

Hardly anyone knows I'm gd with girls exept very close friends. Like in coll today, 1 of the coll boys told EVERYONE "Matt pulled". Then they were all making jokes like "did she have a white stick and a black dog?". It's so anoying! I don't like talking about my game to them, I like to be the wolf in sheeps clothing. Constantly getting asked questions is annoying, I don't want to help them. I'm totally the oposite to a brag to them all. If I get in her place, get her number, plan a date, I go as far as telling them I didn't even get her number. When I get the hbs, I get gimps walking upto me and congratulating me, shaking my hand when I'm with her, as if it's unusual!I just wish these jelous pricks would stop getting up in my biz.

Just a rant, can anyone relate?

 

[quest]

kind of...
but i get girls that i've met saying about how soft i'd be behind closed doors..
(soft as in AFC)
and i don't know why they think it..

one girl was calling me a womaniser, but said that when i had a girlfriend i'd treat her so well..

(this particular girl is also very hot and calls me to go out clubbing with her every so often.. its a strange relationship.. i want to bang her )

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by S0LID
I don't like talking about my game to them, I like to be the wolf in sheeps clothing. Constantly getting asked questions is annoying, I don't want to help them. I'm totally the oposite to a brag to them all. If I get in her place, get her number, plan a date, I go as far as telling them I didn't even get her number.

I'm not saying to brag, but don't be stupid. Give help when it's asked for. Why should you be selfish with your skills? The great millionaires are generous with their teachings, with Donald Trump, Warren Buffett, etc writing many, many books about how to think rich and how to get rich. Don't be a scrooge.

 

[S0LID]

Re: Re: People think I'm AFC!!

Originally posted by MetalFortress
I'm not saying to brag, but don't be stupid. Give help when it's asked for. Why should you be selfish with your skills? The great millionaires are generous with their teachings, with Donald Trump, Warren Buffett, etc writing many, many books about how to think rich and how to get rich. Don't be a scrooge.

1- they'd laugh at me.
2-they'd tell more people, whod laugh, they'd tell girls, so i'd look pathetic.
3-they wouldn't listen
4-teach someone a magic trick and it becomes less impressive
5-more competition
etc etc

I don't mind sharing my stuff with you guys, but I like to blend in, and not be some kinda God, especialy when they see me get rejected, which I do alot of the time.

 

[Rex Man]

I don't know,
I like people around campus to know I get girls (especially other girls). If they ask about it, I'll usually tell them.

Admittedly, I have ran into a LOT of jealousy because of my nature however; it's a damn good feeling to have people looking up to(and competing with) you.

 

[Kaine]

Don't tell unless someone sincerely asks for your advice.

If they admire what you've achieved then it's your choice whether you want to tell them the truth or just stay mysterious.

Definately don't offer to help otherwise, for your own sake.

I don't, and pretend I'm clueless ABOUT women most of the time with the exception of a few tidbits to my closest friends. BUT what I do is everything I've learnt about seduction.

In fact I give AFC advice to schmucks, they usually prefer to hear that as it fits their schema of the world. Fun!


Kaine

 

[alphawolfx]

when the guys bust on you, bust on them right back

if you're gonna let them do something to you that you don't like, then you ARE an AFC... the average chump who puts up with s.hit

you don't have to go violent on them, for instance...

socalledfriend1: "matt pulled"
socalledfriend2: "did she have a tail and a leash?"
you: "no your mom was busy tonight"

the worst thing to do is usually call someone on it in public

socalledfriend: "blah blah blah, random joke at Matt"
you: "hahaha, yeah if i was like you, though, everyone would know the SECOND i ****ed another random *****, because that would make me SO cool. dude, you are SO cool... i am glad i'm your friend (sarcasm""

in other words... AMOG the f.uck out of your friends. you can still be a gentleman (wolf in sheep's clothing), but AMOG the hell out of your friends who give you s.hit

 

[ScrewIt]

Re: Re: People think I'm AFC!!

Originally posted by MetalFortress
I'm not saying to brag, but don't be stupid. Give help when it's asked for. Why should you be selfish with your skills? The great millionaires are generous with their teachings, with Donald Trump, Warren Buffett, etc writing many, many books about how to think rich and how to get rich. Don't be a scrooge.

I agree dont be a scrooge. There are some instances where someone is sincerely seeking advice in the dating scene...those are the ones you should enlighten.

then there are those who secretly resent you and plot your downfall. Those - you should never reveal your secrets/weaknesses to. The types that pretend to be your friend when in fact plot to backstab you.

 

[theSpeculator]

SOLID: I'm sorry but I've seen your pics and to me you look like a "girly" man with too many feminine features. Your eyes look they are scare of something. You look very insecure. That is probably what everyone see and it explains why they treat you like an AFC.

Furthermore do you truly have real skills. How are the quality of the chicks that you have hooked? Even an AFC with limited knowledge in seduction can easily pull in naive chicks one in a while. But he is still an AFC by heart. Just because you have some skill does not automatically makes you a True Don Juan.

 

[Life-Trainee]

Just tell those people candy-dispenser advice they been getting for years....

 

[MacDiddy]

1- they'd laugh at me.
2-they'd tell more people, whod laugh, they'd tell girls, so i'd look pathetic.
3-they wouldn't listen
4-teach someone a magic trick and it becomes less impressive
5-more competition etc etc

You have a RESPECT problem and I find you case very unusual.... coz usually guys that have very little respect don't do so well with chicks..... Its a conundrum which you'll have to enlighten us with...

I'd say you have to work on your states and frame, even when you are around friends... Start being scarce, coz you don't need friends that diss you like this... Remember, you show signs of weakness and you'll be taken advantaged off, 100%....

 

[MetalFortress]

Re: Re: Re: People think I'm AFC!!

Originally posted by S0LID
1- they'd laugh at me.
2-they'd tell more people, whod laugh, they'd tell girls, so i'd look pathetic.
3-they wouldn't listen
4-teach someone a magic trick and it becomes less impressive
5-more competition
etc etc

IS IT THAT HARD TO GIVE ADVICE CORRECTLY? You don't have to mention this site and its terminology - just when they ask you for advice, tell it to them in layman's terms. You don't have to talk about C+F or neg hits, just say something like bust on her and make her laugh, or don't bombard her with compliments but make her wonder a bit, etc

 

[duke007]

I have a similar problem with my old high school friends. They think I'm AFC because I was hopeless with girls back then, so it's amusing to them whenever I try something. The difference is they don't actively diss me, they just use exaggerated and sarcastically laced comments like, "The lady killer's got his game on!" "Go Lady Killer!" "Have you got her number yet?"

It happened last Saturday...I was in a four way conversation with two of these guys and a chick. I was a participant in the convo but I wasn't dominating. The others said stuff like, "He has really tight leather pants" and of course I played along with it using C+F. They saw me kino her slightly, and whisper a few things in her ear.

Anyway, soon after the guys left I ejected and went outside where everyone was standing in a circle obviously talking about me. "OHHHh there he is, go Lady Killa!!!" It's hard to know how to react, because they're not being completely malicious. Playing along seems to work.

(Side note: after they all left, I went back inside and was making out with her inside 2 minutes....they'll never know though)

So my advice to you Solid is act as if it's no big deal. Don't be fazed and they'll eventually get sick of teasing you. Introducing them to a hot girl (a friend of the one you're gaming) would probably increase their respect also.

 

[Disturbed]

I am on the same boat. I used to be so AFC in my past relationships with women. I did not know how to act and felt very insecure about myself. The friends I have got now are the same ones from back then. It stings me to discover that most of them perceive me to be the same twit I was before. I am truly convinced that I have changed and have attained more self-confidence than ever before. They constantly urge me on to chase ugly women as if I am a beginner in the dating game. I am not going to settle for the garbage that they lead me to; for me it's either the girls who I find attractive or nothing. Even worse, they dont respect the opinions that I propose regarding women just because I have had a bad track record. They are rejecting my claims based on who I was instead of the logic of the statements presented. IMHO I think it is best to dispel these old friends because their perceptions will never change. They pose a damaging influence to your character by reminding you of who you used to be. I say go meet new people and start afresh and let them know who you truly are. Kill the past and everything that comes with it. In computing jargon: FORMAT.

 

[theSpeculator]

duke007: Here is how I would've replied:
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Them: Hey you're the pimp (or player or lady killer, etc).

Me: Pimp? I'm no pimp.

Them: Yeah you're the pimp.

Me. NO, you're the pimp.

Them: No, you're the pimp.

Me: Maybe, but you're the bigger pimp. See that girl (HB 5-6 friend), you got her. Even I couldn't get her.
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So that guy never said the same thing to me again after that incident.

The trick is to strike back but not agressively (that shows it brothered you) but in a calm and humoring manner.
_______________________________

Disturbed: That's not true. I've went through a dramatic change over the last winter break. And everyone has reacted positively. I had thought that people would reject my new altitude, but no everyone was cool with it. Now I am one of the popular people in my class. Maybe think for a sec and ask yourself if you truly have changed?

 

[S0LID]

I don't think I have girlie features It's all down to lighting there. I know I'm def not a ultimate DJ....yet. i realy dont like arguing with people who are not my true friends, especialy when I have to spend everyday with them. I'd say i'm pritty tough skinned anyways.

 

[Double]

for me it's quite the opposite.....most people think i'm having more success then i actually have....being modest is a joke,a DJ is badass, a DJ doesn't brag but doesn't downplay either.
1.game their GF's a bit....when they start complimenting and touching you, your friends will think a bit different
2.stop fooling around with #closes, start the f-closing with your oneitis j/k

 

[S0LID]

dude, I think your rite about the oneitis . My head is well messed up, cause i'm keeping it real in my head that it will probs not last 4ever with her.

 

[Double]

your head is messed up? **** dude it was only a joke-_-. i just want to make sure you use your opportunities and don't let them pass by. else you may wake up one day and her IL has dropped b/c you didn't make the final move b/c you rather wanted to play power games and then you will be the one feeling played. what do you mean will not last4ever, her high IL??yeah then start doing somehting about it"!!for gods sake i'm not saying go for a relationship or anything but plz do her for the xp!

dude one thing i know for sure if i gamed a girl good and i know she likes/adores me then i like her MUCH more then before i started gaming her.....i think it's just human psychology if you know somebody likes you you probably like them back. the only thing you can do about that is 1.)go for a relationship or 2.)go for different girls at the same time.

so you need to do something, either start gaming other chicks or go for her if you think she is relationship material. your still in the position of power, strike while the iron is hot!

in my opinion....things like rejection,cheating,getting dumped ....are not the best....but i never felt so much pain when i had a similar situation like yours, and in the end she moved on and I was the one having oneitis, and she no more. bro, i was so fvcked and still feel the pain. but whatever guess i'm stronger and for sure smarter now

 

[Seeph]

The problem with your guy friends is that they do not respect you. YOU do not demand respect from them. However, you still get girls and they do not understand this.. so they rag on you. I have had the same problem in the past. I basically just started busting their balls and being a huge DlCK.. they will try and make fun of you for doing it but keep it up and they will realize that you've had enough and back off eventually. You have to demand respect from everyone.. not just girls, but guys also. IMO respect from guys is more important than from girls.. because girls will see this as a sign of leadership/masculinity.