Outgrowing the people around you

[wolf]

Since taking the Red Pill 18 months ago and working hard on myself, I stop momentarily to look up and see that I am on my own.

I can longer relate to friends I have known for years and it feels they can no longer relate to me.

When I first took the Red Pill I felt like I had discovered the secret to life and I wanted to share it. I tried in vain to explain how I had discovered all of my life's answers and naturally tried to help people to understand my viewpoint.

I had comments from friends such as "I don't like you, you make me think too much". Suddenly these friends stopped inviting me for dinner and such.

I feel drained by being around my own family. Watching Chaos being bread into the next generation. I try to explain why my life was the way it was and how I ended up having the soul sucked out of me by a Cluster B Woman but it falls on death ears. I just can't pretend and live in denial anymore.

My long time childhood friend has invited me to his wedding in April. She attacks him and even once called the cops. He has footage on his phone of this. The last time I saw him he was bleeding because she scratched him but didn't want to "talk about it".. so we just drank beers and ate pizza.

I guess this is what they mean by 'growing pains'..

Can anybody relate?

 

[Trainwreck]

First, nobody is forcing you to hang out with toxic people. Next, the red pill should be used for only certain aspects in life and also hidden in the closet. Otherwise, you will become some A$$hole nobody wants to hang around with. These people don't want to hang around you because you're annoying af and p!ss them off. You are probably going through a bump in your life and you are letting that Bump take over your personality. Use the blue pill for stuff in your life under your influence of control. This includes health, finance, relationships, education, and etc. Use the red pill for stuff in your life that you really don't have any control over and also keep these thoughts to yourself or limited to like minded people. This includes politics, conspiracy theories, race relations, how other people act, corporate politics, and etc. For example, I don't discuss politics at work because it doesn't do many good to do so. In addition, I'm not guranteed to rise up in ranks in the company either. Yes, I have a cynical red pill mindset to these uncontrollable factors, but I also have a blue pill mindset to my controllable factors. Again, I can control my workforce productivity, the way I do my job, my work relationships, and I can leave the company any time I want to pursue better career options.

 

[wolf]

You make many assumptions about my life and none of them are accurate.

Life is good. New job started a couple of months ago, more money, lots of prospects and I am happy.

The point I make is not being able to relate to people who I used to relate to, even family.

I domt go around telling people how to live their lives. I just can't stick around and watch them do the same thing over again and getting the same results.

I have read on something called the 'divorce phenomenon'. Where by married couples no longer want to hang out with divorced friends as being around them makes them question their own marriage..

 

[bigneil]

Since taking the Red Pill 18 months ago and working hard on myself, I stop momentarily to look up and see that I am on my own.

I can longer relate to friends I have known for years and it feels they can no longer relate to me.

When I first took the Red Pill I felt like I had discovered the secret to life and I wanted to share it. I tried in vain to explain how I had discovered all of my life's answers and naturally tried to help people to understand my viewpoint.

I had comments from friends such as "I don't like you, you make me think too much". Suddenly these friends stopped inviting me for dinner and such.

I feel drained by being around my own family. Watching Chaos being bread into the next generation. I try to explain why my life was the way it was and how I ended up having the soul sucked out of me by a Cluster B Woman but it falls on death ears. I just can't pretend and live in denial anymore.

My long time childhood friend has invited me to his wedding in April. She attacks him and even once called the cops. He has footage on his phone of this. The last time I saw him he was bleeding because she scratched him but didn't want to "talk about it".. so we just drank beers and ate pizza.

I guess this is what they mean by 'growing pains'..

Can anybody relate?

This is a hard lesson. You start out knowing you have made an essential discovery and you think you can change the world. Then you realize you can't even change your own sibling on one topic in one conversation, and that they will just as soon disown you as admit you are right. See those who doubted Trump and/or Brady for examples of polarized, whiny sore losers spewing eternal venom with fists clenched. Sure, the Russians did it. Sure, he cheated. But when Hillary got caught cheating (for example by receiving leaked questions from former CNN journalist and DNC chairwoman Donna Brazile)? Crickets. With open borders they flagrantly thumb their nose at the law, but with the 9th Circuit Court judicial activism and Obamacare? It's the law of the land!

 

[Trainwreck]

You make many assumptions about my life and none of them are accurate.

Life is good. New job started a couple of months ago, more money, lots of prospects and I am happy.

The point I make is not being able to relate to people who I used to relate to, even family.

I domt go around telling people how to live their lives. I just can't stick around and watch them do the same thing over again and getting the same results.

I have read on something called the 'divorce phenomenon'. Where by married couples no longer want to hang out with divorced friends as being around them makes them question their own marriage..

Obviously your life isn't good if your following this red pill shvt and telling other people that they are doomed. People do not want to hear that bullshvt. Focus on yourself and quit worrying about what everybody else is doing. You mentioned some girl screwed you over, so I'm guessing you're still salty over that. You had fault in that breakup too, so analyze what you did wrong and improve yourself. Following neckbeard principles from the Internet is not going to do you any good.

 

[BeExcellent]

You can't bring everyone with you. Sometimes people you were close to fade into the background. You have to let this occur and yes it can be a little lonely but it is also an opportunity to populate your life with new people who share your outlook & values.

The only one that matters is your wife. Instead of telling her your newfound perspective, show her through your behavior. It is comforting for a woman to have a decisive man and leader at the helm of her life. Cherish her but lead her.

If you are divorced & I missed that then disregard the wife part - you only have you to concern yourself with.

You have opened your life to the opportunity currently manifesting in your life. Move forward, do not be sad but be welcoming and gracious to old friends & family as they begin to accept the new improved you. Some will embrace you and perhaps encourage you...many may not and you can't dwell on that.

Success and red pill perspective are things that shine light onto your friends...your friends and family do not think you are any different than you so your success and outlook makes them question their own choices. This phenomena makes people uncomfortable and discomfort is something people mostly avoid...so they avoid you as a source of discomfort.

I talk a lot about this in my Success thread in the Wealth & Success forum and I've gone through it as I've gained stature & success. Some people cycle back into your life after a while others never do. Just accept it as part of the process, concentrate on you and yours and embrace your new path. And congratulations on refusing stagnation. Onward & upward!

Cheers!

 

[sazc]

Its okay to acknowledge that you have outgrown certain people. Its not even derogatory to say that. People grow and move on certain paths, and sometimes those paths diverge. That is when you have to make the choice, do I accept this person for who they are and the belief system that they embody, or do I need to move away.

Growth occurs with either choice. Its really all good.

 

[Roober]

I have found that this can be a lonely journey, through growth and enlightenment. You will find new and better people to bring into your life. Also, you can accept others for who they are and accept that they don't know any better.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Yea I can relate ive actually left several groups of friends behind because of this

Its difficult to find friends that are actually capable of growing with you instead of just slowing you down

Even the group I have now I feel I am coming to an end with because I don’t feel they are really going anywhere in life

The biggest problem is that people like routines and they like their comfort zones, they also don’t like being told they are wrong


People would rather live the same year 50 times over in mediocrity than explore other avenues


It also doesn’t help that society over the years has produced a stereotypical blueprint that people feel they MUST adhere too or else fail miserably

This leads to a lot of people simply settling for the “next best” partner that comes along instead of holding out and finding what they really want

 

[playa99]

I can also relate. I see none of my friends from high school now. It is a side effect of taking control of your own life and doing what you want! I'd rather be lonely than go out with a bunch of people I don't like. I have 2/3 good friends who I know I can count on.

I can guarantee that I could move away, come back in 20 years and it would be the same people doing the same stuff week in, week out.

 

[wifehunter]

Iz lonely at top.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Just because you have discovered the red pill does not mean it's your duty to preach the sermon to everyone you know. Nor is it your job to prevent "chaos" from being bred into the future generation. Even Jesus could not convert everyone to his beliefs.

Accept the people around you for who they are. Some are too broken to change. Other are just too stupid or too brainwashed. And some may be amendable to self-improvement. With the latter, offer your opinion but don't try to aggressively push your views on them. Ultimately, everyone chooses the red pill for himself. As a friend, the most you can do is provide information. You can't make the choice for them.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Yeah of course. In high school, people didn't have the cognitive function to really care about how they were and what was proper and whatnot, they just listened to what their impulses told them. In college, people are a little older so their frontal lobe is more developed. They understand societal pressures so now they're more pvssified. I cannot stand that so I don't try to talk with those type of people much.

I still can though, it is easy. You try to explain to them how they SHOULD be living like how we do here, you'll get shamed into oblivion. So translate what you are saying into some kind of moralistic value that society appreciates. In the case of your friend, you can't just tell him what to do about his woman, it will hurt his masculinity. So you say something that society will accept; "hey bro, I know you don't want to talk about it, but you shouldn't be in an abusive relationship. I don't care what anyone says, physical violence is never provoked no matter how guilty someone tries to make you feel. You deserve better. And let's be real here; you're a man! You have pride! Your woman should compliment you like you do her so that you two are one entity. That's essentially what marriage is isn't it? The compliment of two halves into a whole. And from what I see so far, you are putting in all the work to try to make that happen and she isn't. You deserve better bro."

Now half that crap was just some wishy-washy bullsh!t that I don't even believe lol, but you saw what I did. I manipulated some soceital values to favor men. I converted one fo the values on here onto a societal value ("you are the prize!" to "you deserve better"). Manipulation of words and language. Women are much better at this than men. But if men were to truly commit to this, then no woman can beat us. That is why the best lawyers are always men