Outer Game. Lets see it.

[look]aRhino

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Originally posted by Metalixia
inner game teachings of Pook? What is this it sounds interesting. I tried a Yahoo searchm, but no luck!
It wouldn't be on Yahoo. Pook is, in my opinion, one of THE best posters to ever post on this site.

Do a search for him through the forum.

Alternatively, read the bible, he has many many posts littered throughout there.

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ive gone on about 20 1st dates since aug of 2004 when i came here..I dont need to post about my expierences...that wont help anyone here.


giving them advice for each situation would.

im successful because of :

a. confidence
b. practice

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Also, a note from personal experience. My inner game would have been impossible to develop if not for my outer game. Outer game has been the difference between telling myself i'm awesome and TRULY BELIEVING that i'm awesome. Anyone can tell the difference between the two types, especially women. If you try to develop your inner game without actually having any corroborating evidence in your real life that your inner game is true then I'd suggest you'll never truly believe it and you'll become the first type.
This is where I am now. I've focused on inner game since I've found this site, and it has helped in a very general, gradual sense. I feel I am very knowledgeable about social dynamics now, but that means nothing when I don't use it. I started a journal yesterday, and I plan on starting cold approaches again within the next few days. Unfortunately I don't encounter many hot girls around here, so I'll have to go out of my way to find some...
 

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Originally posted by [look]aRhino
Wow. No wonder you're having such problems dude. You need to work on your inner game. Frame everything positively.

Do you want to handle this area of your life or not?



You'd be surprised how many people think this is ok. They'll eventually realize thats wrong. Most of them will realize this before any accidents as well.

Just forgive them their errors. Try not to judge too much.

Rhino
Yes I do want to handle this area but don't know where to go. Where do you guys have the most success with women? Clubs? Where? I never know where to go.

I can't tolerate people who think it's OK to drink and drive because "it just happens once in a while". That's bull****. That's called being irresponsible and not giving a **** about your own safety (or other peoples' safety). It pisses me off when people make the excuse that "they are young" in order to go out and do really dumb ****. I don't see the fun in that kind of stuff. Anyway, I try not to be too judgemental but when you see broad after broad with the same kind of behavior it just discourages you.

I really need to work on my game this summer.
 

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Originally posted by [look]aRhino
bump.

Does nobody else actually practice what they preach and go out there and talk to girls?

Rhino
Yes.

I liked your field report. Nice CF. Good #bridge. You seem to have a direct style.

Situational openers are decent but ive had more consistency with CF or indirect opinion openers.

Have you tried CF opinion openers. I think they would go well with your style. Example:

'Hey, i need an opinion, if i was a chick what dress size would i be?'

'Would you ever sleep with jesus'
(You'll be surprised at the amount of chicks that actually seriously think about this)

'HHHEEEEEYYYYY!!! OMG its been ages... how are you going?'
(Act like you know her in a CF way)

Situational openers seem to rely on the chick being attracted to your looks, bodylanguange and voice. CF openers project value because your controlling the vibe and you appear ****y and cool.

Hope you post more field reports mate.
 

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Caldus
Caldus, if I were you, I'd go hit the gym, and go out and socialize with everyone. Really improve your social skills. I'd take a hiatus of at least a month from all online seduction communities.

Bullmoose
Not a bad FR. Any points everyone else could learn from? Anything you would do differently through it again?

Spiky
Situational openers seem to rely on the chick being attracted to your looks, bodylanguange and voice. CF openers project value because your controlling the vibe and you appear ****y and cool.
Heres the thing man. I've been hitting the gym for a long time, and I have a really classy style. I have tight BL, and I'm a handsome guy. Before I open my mouth, I'm the perfect image. After I open my mouth, I'm relaxed, I shoot the ****, I joke, I have fun. I'm still the perfect image. If they're having fun with me, I'll escalate to a close. If not, I don't want to spend time with them anyway.

I REALLY like your first two CF (dress/jesus) openers. Those are gold and I'll be sure to use them in interactions soon.

Friv
Well, I'm sure you've had learning points throughout your dates. Pick one, give a lesson to the newbs and illustrate it with a FR.

Theres always something to learn, post a FR and see what the advice is.
 

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Humm this is what I like, guys giving advice and based on their experiance adds nice and dynamic points of view. Some points I would like to bring up.
When Oxide suggested that you let the girl enter the number into your phone herself. Thats what I usually do when I get a number from the girl, I just tell her to put it in (cause I have to admit sometimes I can forget a girl's name quick.) But one question I have are there any negatives to doing this?

And Caldus, you should follow Rhino's advice, specaily pertaining to posting here and simlar sites. It will help you a lot; it will get you out the house, you don't get bombarded with information, you learn to how bend and break the "rules" for your benifit, and you don't fall into the trap of trying to patteren yourself after any one else (the best material comes when you are from the hip.) I have a little roatation schedule that do with posting here. Usually when I'm in school or working I just totally stop posting and visiting here completely. When I get a break and or vaction time, I come back read over some of the basic stuff and or start posting again, till the next go round.
 

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I'm all for the getting out and being more social deal but one problem ... I have no friends. Where are the best places to meet girls? Sounds like to me clubs aren't the best places even though I was considering going to one last week...
 

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Originally posted by Caldus
I have no friends.
Dude. This is a MUCH bigger issue than girls. First you need friends and a balanced life before you start searching for girls.

Otherwise you'll be looking for girls to complete your life, not complement it, and you'll end up in all kinds of ****.

Join some community clubs, maybe a sports league. Get involved man. If you're still in school, its WAAAY easier. Just talk to people.

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I've tried it all before. I just don't fit in at this school or something. I tried like a few different clubs and talked to strangers throughout the semester. I learned my lesson a long time ago to not find someone else to complete my life so I worked on myself by starting to go the gym more and reading self-improvement stuff online (and here). Actually, this site alone has taught me a lot of very useful lessons. I tried explaining on another forum how bad a lot of the women around my age are and they just won't listen.
 
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