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j_kat_251

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Hey Mr Supreme;

I want to hear more about your thoughts on the energy of attraction, yin-yang aspect of macking. Have you posted like a summary of "the world according to PlayaSupreme" on some other forum or what? It sounds like what you believe works for you - and could be useful to those of the people here that can understand where you're coming from.
 

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Originally posted by j_kat_251
Hey Mr Supreme;

I want to hear more about your thoughts on the energy of attraction, yin-yang aspect of macking. Have you posted like a summary of "the world according to PlayaSupreme" on some other forum or what? It sounds like what you believe works for you - and could be useful to those of the people here that can understand where you're coming from.
I have been posting on this. Do a search for my 2 screen names.

player_supreme and playersupreme

I will continue to spit
 

CyranoDeBergerac

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Originally posted by PlayerSupreme
4. I heard that Savage was talking about Alpha males becoming extinct today on his show. That men are becoming feminized, I've already spoken on this subject what are your views?
I believe that since the sexual revolution, women have been exerting their masculine energy moreso and men have been responding in a more feminized manner. The tendency of nature is towards balance after all. Perhaps this is even a good thing and allows us the ability to experience our 'minority energy' to the point where we can become more enlightened. I do think its taken a bit too far though. Women and the revolutionary-based neo-liberalism has over-reacted and hence the proliferation of effeminate males. I watch on TV sitcoms and commercials and I see men being portrayed as loveable lugs, and women as our much more wise maternal caretakers, because you know every man's just dying for a woman to mother him and is hopeless without one. :rolleyes:

I believe in the masculine oriented warrior/solace archetype of male/female relationships. (the feminine corrolary is the nurturer/provider archetype) Men are the warriors. We are geared to build towers and empires, hunt food, fend off Sabre tooth tigers, and to compete with other men to ensure the strongest genes and the continued survival of ourselves and our progeny. This is how we are wired, and inevitably how we express our natural energy.

Women were meant to build webs of relationships, nurture our progeny, and heal and provide emotional support for men. In short, Men project their energy and deal with physical and external stimuli, whereas women reflect their energy internally and deal with the emotional and internal stimuli. Men also take more risks, and as such will travel farther from home, memorizing the surrounding area, whereas women tend to me more localized. There's much more to it of course, but if you've the time and the inclination, I suggest reading "The Moral Animal" by Robert Wright. Most people will recommend "The Selfish Gene", but I like Wright's book better.
5. You also did answer a 1 of my questions. Instead you gave me your flowery prose, although enjoyeable to read I am still interested in knowing your truths.
Sorry, but which questions did I not answer? I'll try to answer them more to your satisfaction later.
6. You must of been a philosophy major before you dropped out...correct. You followed Socrates maybe....
No actually. I read Plato's Republic and Diologues and was enthralled with the Socratic method, because it seems to me the purest and most natural way to acquire and synergize knowledge into wisdom and understanding. The other thing I respect about greek philosphy is the perspective that I found in two parables I once heard...

A young man came to Aristotle and asked for his tutelage. A. took the young man to the river and upon wading into the middle of it, he placed the young man's head under water for a number of minutes. When he allowed the young man to come up for air, the young man, now gasping for breathe asked why A. had done that?

A. simply responded that when the young man yearned to know as much as he had yearned for air, A. would teach him.

Alexander the Great came upon a man lying under the tree and spoke to him. The man was Diogenes and Alexander was so impressed by the man's wisdom and modesty that he declared to Diogenes:

"Speak what you wish of all my kingdom and I shall grant it to you"

Diogenes replied,"Could you get out of my way, you're blocking my sunlight."

I'm paraphrasing, but you get the idea. Most of my other philosophy has been developed over time and by picking things up as I went along. Mostly my studies have given voice and corporreal form to that which I already knew was true intuitively. You yourself don't seem to be a stranger to Philosophy either...
7. Thanks for the wish of fortune in my growing relationship. I met her in a night club which is where I hunted at. Our eye's met accross the room and it was a flash of energy that went between us. I watched her walk with her little sister around the club and to the bathroom. Then back again. She looked at me and cast her eyes downward. Some goober came and asked her to dance and I watched the way she danced with him and new this was the one for me. Her ability to bend to a man in a passionate and sensual way was supreme. I told my buddy I had to have her.

I waited for her to come off the floor and went over to her and stopped right in front of her. I looked her in the eye and then took her hand and took her to the dance floor. For the rest of the evening she was by my side after that. I walked her out to her car and didn't even kiss her that night. I got her number and took her email address. As soon as I got home I emailed her one of my special emails. Oh I had laryngitis the night we met.

and she responded:

Hi C ,

Thanks for the thoughtful message. It means a lot to have someone speak with appreciation and sincerity. Last night, I felt that no one else was even around when we were together. Time and my breath had stopped several times in your presence. It really is a wonderful feeling. Honestly, I was starting to feel that I would never experience that again with someone. It is a shame to start to get jaded when it comes to that. Thank you for just being yourself. Even if you never sent me a message or called me I still would have been so thankful for that evening because I feel alive again. Not just existing but feeling alive. The fact that you are man enough to send a thoughtful message makes you even more appealing to me.
You hit upon three things that are the heart and soul of what game I have.

1) I recognize quality and practice self-control. I think we're both man enough to decline a woman's invitation to her boudoire if we don't want to. I don't hunt what not worth catching. I didn't think there were any worth-while women at clubs, but hey I guess that's just one more misjudgement. I thank you that I know better now.

2) I always build repoire and show depth. I know the power of the written word (especially a well-written word) and the positive expression of sentiment. I'm a naturally empathetic person anyway, so I just use that to my advantage. I get in her head, reaffirm my opinion of her, but always feigning pain and difficulty at doing so. Before long I'm telling her how I'm reading her and exactly how she feels and from then on all there is is the power of suggestion. Bing. Bang. Boom.

3) I always endeavor to isolate/captivate her totally. I know the power of sentiment to suspend time and create whole new worlds. I take every moment I'm with a girl and lay claim to it. My philosophy about it is that for the time we are together it is only us. Time will pass, we will die, the world will spin, but through our time together we enjoy immortality, because not even death itself can wrench this moment from us. Our time together is an island in a sea of calamity, and we alone dwell in this niche I carve out of time and space. Of course, I can do that all by myself, but just as you do, I bring her into my world. ;)

One more thing on the importance or unimportance of time....
If we had met at another time in our lives we would of blown it.
Bingo. I truly believe that when we are ready and can most grow from our relationship with another, that person will find their way into our life.
And the rest cyrano is what dreams are made of!
Well spoken.
 

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You asked if I was a Don Juan and I will say yes. You asked in general if I was a symp or a pimp. I'd have to say symp. I'll explain why, but I want to show you by expounding upon your theory of love making v. sex.

I believe there are four levels of sexual contact:

1) Just fvckin'

2) Having sex

3) Making Love

4) Soul-Mating.

Most people get to the third point in life, but may never reach the fourth. You're not talking about making love when you speak of souls intertwining and not just complementing, but completing each other. I am with a woman, the mother of my son and have been for just under two years now, but we didn't finally reach that soul-mating level until two months ago. This is when she finally shared her all with me. It was a whiel in coming, but I knew the day would come.

Now, before her I hadn't had a girlfriend or hooked up with a girl for some months. I had had several offers, but I declined to pursue them because I respect the awesome power that is weilded through intimate contact in all its forms and the potentially devastating emotional and spiritual ramifications when sex is used carelessly. Let's face it, for a guy with his sh1t together, sex is easy, almost cheap. To me it felt like hooking up for the sake of getting my rocks off (or as you put it, masturbating with a women) debased the act and could just possibly be the highest form of sacrilege. Not knocking the practice, just saying it wasn't for me. So I turn my focus to nurturing worth-while relationships, not nailing several frivolous ones. This is why I've never endulged too greatly into the bar/club scene for myself, but I'm probably one of the better wingmen you're likely to meet even though I cherish my privacy.

In the mean time though I took the time to counsel my friends and get them laid. I helped my guys expand their horizons and increase their game while helping all my friends, male and female see when they were in unhelathy relationships and helping them become better people of their own, and not through relationships. (if you want to call it c.ock-blocking, go ahead, but I have no sympathy for those who electively and repeatedly hurt another human being so gravely. The greatest tragedy in life is greatness stifled and enslaved.) I still do this and with the females it garners me offers for no strings sex to this day, but I resist the temptation because I know there is no such thing, and they're trying to bait me to reaffirm their self-worth through the approval of another, a solution so fraught with peril, that it would be counterproductive to pursue it.

So I am a Don Juan because I know the game and I am the game, though I struggle to get better all the time.

I am a symp because I respect that spark of the divine in all humanity too greatly to defile it or cast it away. I see people who are at the point in their development where they need the most help, and I try to nurture it until my subject can stand for themself and shine as a beacon to others in dire need of self-truth. On that note, I realize that nurturing is a feminine urge, but standing firm in the face of the world and your lesser impulses are the truest masculine traits, and in this way I hope to bind my masculine and feminine energies harmoniously.

I'm rambling on now, and I have much else to do, but ask me your other questions and I'll do my best to answer them. Again, I thank you for sharing your wisdom.

-CyranoDeBergerac

P.S.: I've been playing around with my signature because I find too many guys on here looking for a quick fix, a way to look good or too proud and arrogant of their own abilities that they see no need to delve further into developing it. Also, I want to express the temporal quality of time and life which so many people seem to deny.
 
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Originally posted by CyranoDeBergerac
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Your style is straight pimping. You isolate, get into the mind. You must of read the art of seduction also. I see some of that in your words.

You are one of the few on this board I have respect for. I may not agree with some of what you say but I tip my hat to you.
 

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Originally posted by CyranoDeBergerac
You asked if I was a Don Juan and I will say yes. You asked in general if I was a symp or a pimp. I'd have to say symp. I'll explain why, but I want to show you by expounding upon your theory of love making v. sex.

I believe there are four levels of sexual contact:

1) Just fvckin'

2) Having sex

3) Making Love

4) Soul-Mating.
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1. Symp will only give his power away to a female. You mean your style may be coquettish. Symps are what you would less than men. A pimp is simple a real man who has conquered his desires for women. He has conquered himself and sits at the seat of his power.

2. Your level of sex is interesting. I disagree that most people reach the making love stage. Most people can't get out of their heads and blocks to open up to making love. What you call soul mating is what I call making love. Just fvckin and having sex has no differences to me.

3. In the making love you do have several levels to reach the ultimate as you call the soul mating stage...when love making is done right that is the destination of the act. A man and woman coming together as one. The ultimate creative act that two human beings can do.

Thank you for your answers Cyrano.
 
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