Opinions on the Novavax Protein Subunit Vaccine vs. mRNA Vaccines?

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The D-dimer test is a test of clotting which is one of the more important possible effects of the spike protein rather than of its presence, so perhaps not quite what Who Dares Wins was after. Though I gather a very useful and important test all the same for those affected.
Apparently these clots are on such molecular level, D Dimer does not pick them up.
 

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Almost makes you wonder if it was designed that way..
I had two D dimers when I ended up in hospital with covid... Didn't pick up a damn thing, even though I had symptoms of clotting.

Lots of people I know had D dimers too, didn't pick up a single clot.

The clotting is there, but it's almost not detectable.

Clever engineered virus.
 

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Apparently these clots are on such molecular level, D Dimer does not pick them up.
Thanks. That's very interesting. Dr Hoffe quite early on was saying that about 60 per cent of his (I think Moderna) vaccinees were seeing detectable micro-clotting. My impression was that one had to use the D-dimer to detect such micro-clotting and he does actually say this.

Had covid 3x

The delta varient I ended up in hospital for 5 days and on oxygen for 3 of those days.

I'm healthy and strong and trusted my own body to heal itself.

Never took the vaccine and never will.

I'm 100% recovered, however I know people who suffer serious health issues after getting Vaxxed.
I've never heard of a naturally immune person getting it 3x. McCullough did have to revise his one-and-done slogan when people who
had got hit by delta also started to get hit by omicron. I dare say you've had to turn down quite a few vax offers (which seems to me a
very wise thing to do).

You've had quite a rough time. I've just read your posts in CAPSLOCK BANDIT'S thread. I can also remember some of your earlier reports (probably from 2020), which certainly suggested that it can make life difficult for even the best of us. By contrast, when I got covid (omicron I presume), I just felt a bit tired for a day or two.

What did they treat you with in Hospital? I'm getting the impression that the only official treatments that actually work are the steroids
(and presumably the oxygen). Remdesivir (which seems to be a staple treatment in the US, UK and here in Australia) is reputably even quite a bit more dangerous than the vaccines. Doctors like Pierre Kory (a distinguished ICU specialist), at least at times, seem to come close to recommend avoiding hospitals all together (given how dangerous they are and they certainly don't have a good survival rate). I dare say you aren't going to get any ivermectin in a hospital. Doctors like Kory, very experienced with Covid 'early treatment', tend to view 'long covid,' such as you seem to have experienced as simply untreated covid.
 

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Thanks. That's very interesting. Dr Hoffe quite early on was saying that about 60 per cent of his (I think Moderna) vaccinees were seeing detectable micro-clotting. My impression was that one had to use the D-dimer to detect such micro-clotting and he does actually say this.


I've never heard of a naturally immune person getting it 3x. McCullough did have to revise his one-and-done slogan when people who
had got hit by delta also started to get hit by omicron. I dare say you've had to turn down quite a few vax offers (which seems to me a
very wise thing to do).

You've had quite a rough time. I've just read your posts in CAPSLOCK BANDIT'S thread. I can also remember some of your earlier reports (probably from 2020), which certainly suggested that it can make life difficult for even the best of us. By contrast, when I got covid (omicron I presume), I just felt a bit tired for a day or two.

What did they treat you with in Hospital? I'm getting the impression that the only official treatments that actually work are the steroids
(and presumably the oxygen). Remdesivir (which seems to be a staple treatment in the US, UK and here in Australia) is reputably even quite a bit more dangerous than the vaccines. Doctors like Pierre Kory (a distinguished ICU specialist), at least at times, seem to come close to recommend avoiding hospitals all together (given how dangerous they are and they certainly don't have a good survival rate). I dare say you aren't going to get any ivermectin in a hospital. Doctors like Kory, very experienced with Covid 'early treatment', tend to view 'long covid,' such as you seem to have experienced as simply untreated covid.
I recall the hospital putting me on a dose of steroids for a short while, other than that it was just oxygen.

They only kept me in the hospital because my oxygen level reading was around 87 which is well below what it should be.

Treatment wise my only hope I believed at the time was Ivermectin, however if you mentioned Ivermectin, more likely you are labelled a conspiracy theorist.

I had already had a very severe case of COVID back in 2020 with the Alpha varient, so I did already have a level natural immunity & with me being a relatively healthy individual, I managed to pull through.

I believe people who have low vitamin D levels, tend to be prone to getting much more ill with covid.

And yes they tried to give me the Vax on several occasions and I simply refused.

I knew from past experience that I will likely recover from the covid, however once that vaxx is in my system, there would be no reversing that damage.
 

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You don't want your very own Mac address Forge?
 

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No they suggested I get vaccinated. It wasn't done in a forceful way.
Got it, would’ve been against protocol, hence my question.

Standard protocol in healthcare settings is to screen individuals for symptoms of active infection and delay vaccination in those who are currently infected with COVID-19.

As a healthcare practitioner that works in intensive care units, I am fully vaccinated, as is required to ply my trade. I have never had the virus, despite repeat exposure. I’m in and out of COVID ISO rooms all the time. Maybe I have reptilian dna - 23&me didn’t pick it up.
 

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Got it, would’ve been against protocol, hence my question.

Standard protocol in healthcare settings is to screen individuals for symptoms of active infection and delay vaccination in those who are currently infected with COVID-19.

As a healthcare practitioner that works in intensive care units, I am fully vaccinated, as is required to ply my trade. I have never had the virus, despite repeat exposure. I’m in and out of COVID ISO rooms all the time. Maybe I have reptilian dna - 23&me didn’t pick it up.
It's no longer required for 'health care practitioners' to have the Mud. It was a 2 year IQ test and you failed.

Flush your medical degree down the toilet, telling people you are a medical practitioner who took the juice is like having a dunce cap in a room full of retards.
 

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I was never going to get vaccinated, but it was for none of the reasons stated in the OP.

I don't trust government.
I don't trust big tech.
I don't trust the news.
I don't trust big pharma.

And all were heavily involved in pushing this onto the population. They even shoved misinformation onto us.


If healthcare providers wanted to help people live through this, they would have said "lose 30lbs, let sunlight touch your skin, and supplement vitamin D". Instead they said to wait for the government subsidized magic pill to cure their problems.
This is exactly how Nexium and Lorazempam get marketed. Instead of telling people to change their diet and lose weight, they let you pop these pills and destroy your gut. This book fixed my acid reflux without a pill. You also have to remember, 90% of the population of Earth is stupid beyond measure. They want the easy way out, the quick fix, the one that provides the most comfort. I got banned from a facebook group for promoting this book. Most people messaging me that it doesn't work. When asked what they tried, they said they never tried it because 'muh doctor says'. Most people need to be told what to think, the WEF isn't wrong, they're just gay.


Doctors still can't understand why I go against their orders and haven't had reflux in nearly 10 years. Diets don't sell pills.
 

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It's no longer required for 'health care practitioners' to have the Mud. It was a 2 year IQ test and you failed.

Flush your medical degree down the toilet, telling people you are a medical practitioner who took the juice is like having a dunce cap in a room full of retards.
UMADBRO?

p.s. I mean I get it, I'd be pissed if I had to clean up people that shat themselves, for a living. "Vocational" nurse, bwahahaha - we call you orderlies. Hey man I think I just heard a Code Brown, spring into action superthero. All said in fun, like your reply above, btw. :)
 

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UMADBRO?

p.s. I mean I get it, I'd be pissed if I had to clean up people that shat themselves, for a living. "Vocational" nurse, bwahahaha - we call you orderlies. Hey man I think I just heard a Code Brown, spring into action superthero. All said in fun, like your reply above, btw. :)
I get it man, I wipe the kind of sh1t you date. no issues. ;)
 

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I get it man, I wipe the kind of sh1t you date. no issues. ;)
It's quite intriguing to see someone with your diverse background - supposedly a veteran to a former prison guard to a medical orderly, now residing in Guelph, ON. Your life experiences, including your international marriage (to a Chicom medical orderly), must have give you a unique perspective.

However, I've noticed a certain intensity in your demeanor, which seems at odds with your claimed contentment. Your posting history is certainly interesting - its like you're angry at everything and everyone and know everything.

Could you share more about what drives this passionate outlook?
 
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It's quite intriguing to see someone with your diverse background - supposedly a veteran to a former prison guard to a medical orderly, now residing in Guelph, ON. Your life experiences, including your international marriage (to a Chicom medical orderly), must have give you a unique perspective.

However, I've noticed a certain intensity in your demeanor, which seems at odds with your claimed contentment. Your posting history is certainly interesting - its like you're angry at everything and everyone and know everything.

Could you share more about what drives this passionate outlook?
Dealing with asshammers like yourself does it for me.
 

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I recall the hospital putting me on a dose of steroids for a short while, other than that it was just oxygen.

They only kept me in the hospital because my oxygen level reading was around 87 which is well below what it should be.

Treatment wise my only hope I believed at the time was Ivermectin, however if you mentioned Ivermectin, more likely you are labelled a
conspiracy theorist.

I had already had a very severe case of COVID back in 2020 with the Alpha varient, so I did already have a level natural immunity & with
me being a relatively healthy individual, I managed to pull through.
Thanks. I'm glad to see that they adopted a light touch. There are doctors who very successfully treat covid with steroids alone (eg. Dr Chetty) and, as you say, you probably already had rather broad natural immunity by that point.

I was never going to get vaccinated, but it was for none of the reasons stated in the OP.

I don't trust government.

I don't trust big tech.

I don't trust the news.

I don't trust big pharma.

And all were heavily involved in pushing this onto the population. They even shoved misinformation onto us.

If healthcare providers wanted to help people live through this, they would have said "lose 30lbs, let sunlight touch your skin, and supplement vitamin D". Instead they said to wait for the government subsidized magic pill to cure their problems.
All great reasons. Why on earth would you take medical advice from politicians or journalists, from professional liars, of all people?

If you look at the medical and scientific evidence, practically everything they (governments, MSM, big tech etc) said about covid was
a lie. It was and remains certainly the most audacious conspiracy that I've ever seen (I guess 9/11, if that was also ultimately a conspiracy (and if so, one I'm far less familiar with), might come the closest.

Yet in this country (Oz), particularly from recent election results, in which most of the covid dictators were returned, most people are
still completely unaware of this and essentially cheered on the institutionalization of medical fascism, which is likely now here for
good. It looks like the doctor/patient relationship, central to traditional western medical ethics, is now dead in this country.

The more jabs you take, the higher your risk of contracting the virus. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625v5.full-text
A very clear graphical exemplification of ADE. Geert has been worried from the outset that we will ultimately see similar developments in to the virulence (severity) of the virus. Then things will not be pretty at all. That might finally begin to wake people up here, though no doubt it would do nothing stop the ceaseless flow of lies from practically all our public institutions here. So who knows what would ultimately happen then.
 
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