ONS with a total HB10 *****..

[Spence]

I remember there was this one guy at school who really was a total arsehole, the sort of guy who sleeps with his best friends girlfriend (and he did), a pretty unpleasant character, the class bully type. I sometimes used to have fights with him and I'm glad to say more often than not I won, but he would still always take the hotties home with him, whereas I would not.

So we were all in a bar aged 18 (legal in the UK) and there was this absolutely stunning hot 18 year old I mean HB11 if there is such a thing, and she was a total *****, she really went out of her way to be a ***** to guys lead them on and then drop them on their face I saw and heard the conversations of a few guys, something of a sadist.

Anyway 15 minutes later said arsehole was taking her away for an ONS. To say I didn't envy him would be a lie and it never ceased to amaze me that in 15 minutes he could take this ***** that I desired a lot straight to bed. It always perplexed me just how this occurred and what was said so fast to get said ***** in bed.

Most PUA literature I've read states avoiding the total ***** (and not the girl with the ***** shield), but I always really wanted to get with such a young, smoking, actual total ***** in such a manner.

Trouble is I don't see myself as much of an arsehole, which I imagine is a prerequisite for such a girl.

So question is how does a guy who isn't a total arsehole get with such a *****, without becoming an arsehole? Or is it just not possible? I find it difficult to imagine being totally up front and just wanting straight up sex.

I'm 30 now so I think that age is another big obstacle to experience such a young and ruthless *****.

 

[hudpes]

I'll be the first to say, RTFM, in other words, read DJ bible. It's not the ******* part the girls find appealing in those guys, it's the cool vibe, they appear fearless, take risks, get in fights, victorious or not, they are direct, don't care about a rejection, they like themselves and dominate others. To girls this translates as, they are able to navigate through life with relative ease and provide safety for the family, their testosterone level is high and they seem healthy. Something like that, in short.

 

[Spence]

I've been reading the bible, which link exactly?

I don't see anywhere about 15 minutes and straight back home to bed?

 

[Tiguere]

The 15 min part is your perception. You dont really know their relationship. You only know what they display on public... They could have been fvck buddies for all we know.

Btw No such thing as an HB 10. You must overcome Pedestalization when pursuing DJ HOOD

 

[Spence]

The 15 min part is your perception. You dont really know their relationship. You only know what they display on public... They could have been fvck buddies for all we know.

Btw No such thing as an HB 10. You must overcome Pedestalization when pursuing DJ HOOD

They had just met for sure..

My question really refers to the total hot ***** and getting her home in 15 minutes. I mean girls who are genuinely *****es.

Because many girls come off as *****y and are not, its just their shield..

I picked this up in the nice guys vs jerks page.. on this site it's a comment by just the type of girl I'm talking about.

I know why women (especially younger ones) prefer jerks over nice guys. This is because I am young (18) and have ditched many a nice guy so I could pursue a jerk.

I am not looking for a relationship, or a potential husband and by dating *******s and jerks I am 90% guaranteed that a lasting relationship will not develop between the jerk and myself.

I am told that I am a *****, and I perceive myself as one. And I think that the reason I get so many men is for the same reason in reverse. Young people (and immature older people) are not looking for a relationship. So before entering a dating situation there has to be some sort of guarantee that nothing serious will develop -- and dating a ***** or an ******* is just the guarantee that people like me are looking for.

I'm not an arsehole by nature, I'd very much like to experience such a girl but given the way I naturally am I'm not sure it's a possibility..

 

[Bingo-Player]

Lol your looking at this from the wrong angle

Your obsessing over this guy taking 15 mins to get what you perceive as a “HB 11” ( this dosent exist) back with him

Theres no formula you can drink that will just turn you into that guy , he had the confidence & possibly experience to break down her bish shields and most importantly he GOT LUCKY

Ive gotten a HB 8 back in 20 mins in the past and on the flip side its taken me 3 months to get a HB 7 into the sack

And on even another flip side ive watched guys in nowhere near the same league as me walk away with something i really wouldn’t mind tapping

So how long is a piece of string?

Work on yourself everything else will fall into place

I hope you see my point

 

[Eph]

They had just met for sure..

My question really refers to the total hot ***** and getting her home in 15 minutes. I mean girls who are genuinely *****es.

Because many girls come off as *****y and are not, its just their shield..

I picked this up in the nice guys vs jerks page.. on this site it's a comment by just the type of girl I'm talking about.



I'm not an arsehole by nature, I'd very much like to experience such a girl but given the way I naturally am I'm not sure it's a possibility..

Never listen to what women say, at least in regards to dating and the like. The only thing this guy had working for him was having the balls to approach. You call this girl a "HB11", so how many guys do you honestly think are willing to approach and risk being rejected by something they perceive as that attractive? The answer: not many.

He got points with her just for approaching. He sealed the deal by being unfazed by her bad behavior (b!tchiness). We don't know the full story of what went down, but I can almost guarantee he was in control of the situation and he definitely had the stronger frame.

So, how does a guy that is "not an arsehole by nature" get top of the line women? Do what the naturals do. Approach, get rejected to build experience, don't allow disrespect, and just be interesting. It's that simple. I think those of us who aren't naturals have the advantage though. While the naturals generally learn on their own, and just seem to know what to do, we get to study others and learn from the mistakes of the greats.

 

[Spence]

Ok thanks guys.. I suppose standard stuff really...

I suppose my question was about bagging a girl who is actually a total ***** and does not just have a ***** shield.. as so many do but they are not actually *****es..

Because most materials I have read have talked about avoiding total *****es.