Online Letter to Chicks on dating sites

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Originally posted by Marcopolo
How is this for a letter to a super attractive chick who doesn't say much (nothing, really) in her profile?

"Hi There!
You are certainly quite the hottie. I don't really need to tell you that, as I am sure a million and a half guys before me have made you aware of that fact-but it is a good icebreaker! Can you tell me more about you?

Anyway, you can check out the great work of literary genius that is my profile, and if you find me worthy of your attention you can write me here or at xxxxx and it is at y a h 0 0, and we can take it from there and perhaps meet over a cup of coffee.

Take care,
Mark"
I have no idea dude why are you so persistent with letter that show you have a huge AFC side. Many of us do have it, but thats not a good enough reason to show it.

From the let go you give her a huge direct compliment. Pretty girls hear that all the time. Dont believe me? Try saying that in CA:
"Hi, You are certainly quite the hottie!" and see that 100% of pretty women would cringe and run away. They instantly will put their b*tch shield!!!

"if you find me worthy of your attention" - it is like you already put yourself so much below her level... it doesnt create attraction at all....
 

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From the let go you give her a huge direct compliment. Pretty girls hear that all the time. Dont believe me? Try saying that in CA:
"Hi, You are certainly quite the hottie!" and see that 100% of pretty women would cringe and run away. They instantly will put their b*tch shield!!!-yes, and I qualified it with an I" I am sure you have heard it before. (But it is a great icebreaker since you said nothing else)." Notice use of the term Icebreaker and hottie.

"if you find me worthy of your attention" - it is like you already put yourself so much below her level... it doesnt create attraction at all....-I was trying to be subtly fecious, like that old saturday night live skit. Also with a similar sarcastic tone as how Howard Stern, for instance, might use it.

Besides, if she is beautiful but literally leaves everyting else blank, what else is there for me to comment on but her looks, even in a slightly sarcastic manner?
 

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Oaky, how about this one...does it make me appear too arrogant/narcissistic, even though I am doing it in a joking manner?

"Anyway, you can check out the great work of literary genius that is my profile, if you think I am as cool as I think I am ļ you can write me here or at xxxxx and it is at y a h 0 0, and we can take it from there and perhaps meet over a cup of coffee."

And another version that gets rid of that line altogether, but in the process may come across as too presumptuous-

"Anyway, you can check out the great work of literary genius that is my profile, and then you can write me here or at cccc and it is at y a h 0 0, and we can take it from there and perhaps meet over a cup of coffee."

or if I just want to sound plain like any other ordinary AFC guy-

"Anyway, you can check out my profile, and if you find something of interest you can write me here or at xxxx and it is at y a h 0 0, and we can take it from there and perhaps meet over a cup of coffee."

-at least that one doesn't come across as me trying too hard. but it sounds like the 1000 other letters attractive women on there get. I am not good looking enough or attractive enough to be ordinary, I need something that will "shock and awe" them without coming across as trying too hard.
 

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Originally posted by Marcopolo
yes, and I qualified it with an I" I am sure you have heard it before. (But it is a great icebreaker since you said nothing else)." Notice use of the term Icebreaker and hottie.

I was trying to be subtly fecious, like that old saturday night live skit. Also with a similar sarcastic tone as how Howard Stern, for instance, might use it.

Besides, if she is beautiful but literally leaves everyting else blank, what else is there for me to comment on but her looks, even in a slightly sarcastic manner?
Yes, it makes sense.. but it is not powerful enough. You can convey your sarcastic tone in person - no problem. But in a very first letter it is tough: no emotions, no tone of voice....

Icebreak - ok, yes, it is an icebreak. But it is like a little bike with an engine of 0.0004 HP - yeah, it's great - small and it can drive you to the next block..but I would not call it a means of transportation. Same here: it doesnt have enough power to be a good icebreak in email. Just imagine: can you say somehting similar in real life, pull it off? No! Because it has a big compliment most women are scared of.

Her blank: a) focus on her pic, is there anything unusual in teh background? abut her outfit? Her hair? Her pose? Comment on it with something funny..."Your hat is going to be popular in... a couple of years. Did you get it from your grandma?" Too much? but if she is pretty she needs a good neg hit.
If she doesnt take it - she is uptight and pretty - which you dont even want to deal with.
b) comment on her hobbies, fav things. Did she anything?
 

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Originally posted by Marcopolo


"Anyway, you can check out the great work of literary genius that is my profile, and then you can write me here or at cccc and it is at y a h 0 0, and we can take it from there and perhaps meet over a cup of coffee."

I am not good looking enough or attractive enough to be ordinary, I need something that will "shock and awe" them without coming across as trying too hard.
This version is the best: you dont come as an AFC, and you force her to detect your sarcasm - at least something that most guys do not do.

"shock and awe" - since all women are different, it is not possible to compose a great generic letter.
You have to comment, ask her about somehting she likes or writes...with some C&F twist.
Obviously it is not that easy, but doable. You already have some sarcastic phrases...note, funny ones are much better.
Try to compose something funny or amusing, you can always add something ****y - it is much easier.
 

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"Basics
"sensual and elegant"

I am a: 29 yr old woman

located in: Sacramento, California, United States

looking for: 28 to 35-year old man

within 450 miles of Sacramento, California, United States

relationships: Committed relationships but never married

my ethnicity: White / Caucasian

body type: Athletic and toned

height: 5’ 5” (165.1 cms)

sense of humor: Friendly: I’ll laugh at anything

sign: Capricorn


About me and who I'd like to date
I am an attractive, fun-loving, sensitive, creative, sweet, caring, big-hearted, clever, affectionate, thoughtful person who has not yet found her prince charming. Guys ask me all the time how a girl like myself is still single and not gotten swept away. I can only say I have not yet found someone whom I connect with on all levels. My ideal match would be someone whom I connect with emotionally, physically and mentally. I want to be in a relationship where we both feel super comfortable communicating to one another about anything and everything that is on our minds. I want to feel such passion that we both can't keep are hands off one another. I am over the games. You must have a great sense of humor (I love to smile), stability, great communication skills, fun, good-looking, affectionate, loyal, trustworthy, sincere, dependable.



Appearance

height: 5’ 5” (165.1 cms)

eyes: Hazel

hair: Dark brown

body type: Athletic and toned

body art: Pierced… but only ear(s)

best feature: No Answer

Interests

sense of humor: Friendly: I’ll laugh at anything

sports and exercise: Aerobics, Swimming, Walking / Hiking, Weights / Machines, Yoga, Skiing, Volleyball

common interests: Cooking, Dining out, Movies/Videos, Playing sports, Travel/Sightseeing, Watching sports, Wine tasting

Lifestyle

exercise habits: Exercise regularly

daily diet: Keep it healthy

smoke: No Way

drink: Social drinker, maybe one or two

job: Financial services

income: $100,001 to $150,000

my place: Live with pets

have kids: None

want kids: Definitely

willing to adopt: Not sure

pets:

I have: Cats, Dogs

I don't have, but like: Fish, Birds

I don't like: Fleas

Background/Values

ethnicity: White / Caucasian

faith: Christian / Catholic

education: Bachelors degree

I went to UCLA

languages: English

politics: No Answer

About My Date

hair: Light brown, Dark brown, Blonde, Dark blonde

eyes: Blue, Brown, Grey, Green, Hazel

height: 5’ 10” (178.0 cms) to 6’ 2” (188.0 cms)

body type: Athletic and toned

languages: English

ethnicity: White / Caucasian

faith: Any

education: Any

job: Any

income: $50,001 to $75,000, $75,001 to $100,000, $100,001 to $150,000, $150,001+

smoke: No Way, Occasionally

drink: Social drinker, maybe one or two

relationships: Committed relationships but never married, Widowed, Divorced, Several committed relationships — but now single, Never been in a committed relationship

have kids: None

want kids: Definitely

turn-ons: Skinny dipping, Thrills, Public displays of affection, Candlelight, Thunderstorms

turn-offs: Tattoos, Sarcasm

perfect date:
Sensual
A decadent dinner so good we could eat it with our bare hands, both of us satisfied but eager to see the dessert tray

Photos "


and my response-

Sounds good- I, too, believe it is important to be passionate about each other on all levels just like you described. I also have a great sense of humor. In fact, I take my sense of humor very seriously- because I believe that a sense of humor is very important and is no joking matter.

However, I must confess to you one thing that I feel it is important for you to know before we get started on our budding romance- I am not quite over games yet, I still like to play Monopoly and Chess on occassion.

Can you tell I am actually having fun writing this?...but down to business....

...if you are sufficiently impressed by the great work of literary genius that is my profile:), you can write me here or at raz351 and it is at y a h 0 0, and we can take it from there and perhaps meet over a cup of coffee, or even a decadent dinner so good we could eat it with our bare hands, both of us satisfied but eager to see the dessert tray :)

Take care,

Mark
 

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Originally posted by Marcopolo
Sounds good- I, too, believe it is important to be passionate about each other on all levels just like you described. I also have a great sense of humor. In fact, I take my sense of humor very seriously- because I believe that a sense of humor is very important and is no joking matter.

However, I must confess to you one thing that I feel it is important for you to know before we get started on our budding romance- I am not quite over games yet, I still like to play Monopoly and Chess on occassion.

Can you tell I am actually having fun writing this?...but down to business....

...if you are sufficiently impressed by the great work of literary genius that is my profile:), you can write me here or at raz351 and it is at y a h 0 0, and we can take it from there and perhaps meet over a cup of coffee, or even a decadent dinner so good we could eat it with our bare hands, both of us satisfied but eager to see the dessert tray :)
Her profile is the most generic profile I ever seen. In fact it seem I have seen like 50 profiles like hers. They all copy one text!!!
It is an ultimate women cliche....I look for a prince.
The actual situaton: she is probably too pretty, afraid to go cheap on a dating market and her relatively not low salary doesnt allow her to choose anyone.

She is not promising... but anyway:

If you want to state "I have a sense of humor" be ready to back it up with specifics: for example: "it was honed\perfected\keeped in a good shape by visitin XXX comedy clubs."
or "I usually have the best sense of humor after a visit to a movie theater, how do you keep it in shape?"...
Just try to twist somehting, show its unusual side, it could be its funny side as well.

Games: well..."I am over games too: Monopoly was my favorite... now I play it real: <make real estatae more realistic... etc>"
If you refer to games, you risk to be associated with "games" anyway, plus no women would appreacite your passion for chess.
Monopoly is fine, but it is much better to "twist" it and hint that you are not that poor...that you work, you succeed, you like what you do by telling her some SPECIFICS as I showed above.
 
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