Online dating tips?

[goodasitgets]

It really could be. I've noticed height is extremely important, even more so than looks on OLD.

If he's an 8.5 girls aren't going to care about his height when most guys on there are 6.5 and below. Girls are looking to bang a guy who looks better than them. If you're an 8.5 your inbox should always be full from girls messaging and responding.

Spam out your opener

I would be careful sending spam. Some sites like POF will delete your account for sending the same spam message too many times.

 

[9Volt]

I would be careful sending spam. Some sites like POF will delete your account for sending the same spam message too many times.

Send a few a day. Change a word or add a word . Problem solved.

 

[goodasitgets]

Send a few a day. Change a word or add a word . Problem solved.

Doesn't always work that way. If you are a suspected spammer they monitor your messages and will still delete you. Happened to lots of guys who tried doing that.

 

[9Volt]

Doesn't always work that way. If you are a suspected spammer they monitor your messages and will still delete you. Happened to lots of guys who tried doing that.

And it hasn't happened to many guys too. Worse comes to worse you set up a new profile.

Asking several women out for drinks with the same message can be counted as spam. No one's got time to send out unique messages to each person. If you do? Then have fun.

 

[goodasitgets]

And it hasn't happened to many guys too. Worse comes to worse you set up a new profile.

It happens more often that not. Too much trouble to do that.

Asking several women out for drinks with the same message can be counted as spam. No one's got time to send out unique messages to each person. If you do? Then have fun.

Profiles can get deleted for that too. There isn't many girls to message. Most girls are ugly or fat. It takes like 2 seconds to make up something off the top of your head to send out to maybe 10 or 15 chicks if that. You have the time to send unique messages on here. Don't you? Why not on OLD too? LOL

If you're good looking girls will almost always respond to your messages. Girls want a good looking guy.

 

[9Volt]

It happens more often that not. Too much trouble to do that.





Profiles can get deleted for that too. There isn't many girls to message. Most girls are ugly or fat. It takes like 2 seconds to make up something off the top of your head to send out to maybe 10 or 15 chicks if that. You have the time to send unique messages on here. Don't you? Why not on OLD too? LOL

If you're good looking girls will almost always respond to your messages. Girls want a good looking guy.

On here there are discussions. So responses will vary. Online a first message needs to grab attention. Most chicks on there aren't worth doing a unique message to each one.

If that's what you like to do then knock yourself out. The rest won't care and will spam whatever works like it or not. Less trouble spamming then worrying about crafting unique intros to each chick. Most will take the chance of having their profiles deleted. Most know how to work around that.

You seem to be taking some odd "stance" against what works for dudes to try and have them do it a way that doesn't work or is too time consuming so they end up failing like you most likely have.

I see what you're doing. Contrarian troll is contrarian.

 

[goodasitgets]

On here there are discussions. So responses will vary. Online a first message needs to grab attention. Most chicks on there aren't worth doing a unique message to each one.

If that's what you like to do then knock yourself out. The rest won't care and will spam whatever works like it or not. Less trouble spamming then worrying about crafting unique intros to each chick. Most will take the chance of having their profiles deleted. Most know how to work around that.

You seem to be taking some odd "stance" against what works for dudes to try and have them do it a way that doesn't work or is too time consuming so they end up failing like you most likely have.

I see what you're doing. Contrarian troll is contrarian.

I just came from another forum talking about OLD. Accounts were deleted for sending out the same openers too many times. People are having a hard time getting back on again. After they set up a new account it gets deleted again within 10 minutes of setting it up. I just said to be careful sending them out too much. Not sure why you are getting huffy over it. You have the time to send unique messages here so it makes no difference on OLD either.

 

[9Volt]

I just came from another forum talking about OLD. Accounts were deleted for sending out the same openers too many times. People ae having a hard time getting back on. After they set up a new account it gets deleted again within 10 minutes. I just said to be careful sending them out too much. Not sure why you are getting huffy over it. You have the time to send unique messages here so it makes no difference on OLD either.

Congratulations. One word change. Problem solved. Not picked up as spam. Thanks for your concern.

 

[goodasitgets]

Congratulations. One word change. Problem solved. Not picked up as spam. Thanks for your concern.

One word change doesn't help after you are a suspected spammer. They will still delete your account. Start changing words before they pick it up on it. Spam messages that are already known as spam won't matter if one word is changed. Their filters already list it as spam and the message won't send. After that they delete you. We were discussing that today.

 

[9Volt]

One word change doesn't help after you are a suspected spammer. They will still delete your account. Start changing words before they pick it up on it. Spam messages that are already known as spam won't matter if one word is changed. Their filters already list it as spam and the message won't send. After that they delete you. We were discussing that today.

No kidding. Change one word every four copy and paste messages sent. Add periods. etc. Never had a problem. Spamming the same message like a lunatic 20 times a day may pick you up as a spammer changing a thing or two after four or so messages sent won't pick it up. Again. Never had a problem and know many other dudes who spam that haven't had an issue.

Only problem is for those who over spam like 20 of the exact same message a day.

 

[old married dude]

30 messages in one day? LOL...don't believe the hype.
3-4 messages per day is really good, especially if they're initiating emails to you. If that's the case, then write a book and sell it--because guys would buy it.

It's no joke Espi! I'd say it wasn't 30 per day everyday, but 30 for the first 2-3 days he put up a new profile & then the messages would slow down. Chicks would message him with silly stuff like "You had me at 6'6!":crackup:

 

[goodasitgets]

On here there are discussions. So responses will vary. Online a first message needs to grab attention. Most chicks on there aren't worth doing a unique message to each one.

On OLD there are discussions too. The responses will vary. Each chick isn't going to respond with the same message. A unique message that busts her chops really good is attention grabbing. She will more likely reply to that over a standard spam message that every other dude sends out. I've gotten numbers on the first or second message. Didn't you post a thread of "unique" of spam openers to send chicks? They must be worth it to you consuming all that time.

You seem to be taking some odd "stance" against what works for dudes to try and have them do it a way that doesn't work or is too time consuming so they end up failing like you most likely have.

You seem to be taking an "odd stance" when the whole point of OLD is to pick up chicks. There isn't only "one way" to go about it. You prefer to spam and now you're lying about other ways that works so that people will follow yours. When you're good looking directly asking the chick out for drinks she will go. When you send out a wacky unique message busting her chops it will work the same or better than your wacky spam opener. I think you should know that as well. It takes 2 seconds to come up with something. Same amount of time it takes to change individual words in your spam. Some spam you can't change the words or the message won't work. You took the time to think up your spam openers so there is no difference being time consuming.

If that's what you like to do then knock yourself out. The rest won't care and will spam whatever works like it or not. Less trouble spamming then worrying about crafting unique intros to each chick. Most will take the chance of having their profiles deleted. Most know how to work around that.

Basically it's your way is the only way. What matters is results and people aren't going to care about your way when their way is already working.

I see what you're doing. Contrarian troll is contrarian.

I see what you're doing. Saying there is only "one way" to pick up chicks online and claiming other ways don't work. So if it goes against your method it's "trolling" no matter that the other ways work.

 

[Obsidian]

I don't understand why girls would want overly tall guys. I'm 5'10 and I don't like it if the girl is too much shorter than me.

 

[9Volt]

On OLD there are discussions too. The responses will vary. Each chick isn't going to respond with the same message. A unique message that busts her chops really good is attention grabbing. She will more likely reply to that over a standard spam message that every other dude sends out. I've gotten numbers on the first or second message. Didn't you post a thread of "unique" of spam openers to send chicks? They must be worth it to you consuming all that time.




You seem to be taking an "odd stance" when the whole point of OLD is to pick up chicks. There isn't only "one way" to go about it. You prefer to spam and now you're lying about other ways that works so that people will follow yours. When you're good looking directly asking the chick out for drinks she will go. When you send out a wacky unique message busting her chops it will work the same or better than your wacky spam opener. I think you should know that as well. It takes 2 seconds to come up with something. Same amount of time it takes to change individual words in your spam. Some spam you can't change the words or the message won't work. You took the time to think up your spam openers so there is no difference being time consuming.




Basically it's your way is the only way. What matters is results and people aren't going to care about your way when their way is already working.





I see what you're doing. Saying there is only "one way" to pick up chicks online and claiming other ways don't work. So if it goes against your method it's "trolling" no matter that the other ways work.

And if your way of creating unique crafted personal messages to each chick works for you then have fun. Then again I'm not buying it. Seems like you're concerned with trying to have dudes do what doesn't work for most like the majority of dudes complain about sending unique crafted messages and get burnt out. Are you trying to get rid of your competition by offering "advice" to make things more difficult? Or are you even using OLD at all and prefer foreveralone misery loves company?

Other's don't have time for that. They spam, get number set up meet. Or just ask them for drinks on the first message. If someone's method works then that's what they'll use. There's choices in life. That's the good thing. If others want to use your way. Then they can and should.

You might want to post your own thread of OLD advice instead of ambiguous, vague "helpful tips". But you won't. Because you're here to contrarian troll and offer anti-advice "advice".

 

[goodasitgets]

I'll go you one better and say, Invite them for a drink on the very first email. Skip the witty email(s) and just get right to the fvucking point and invite them to drink with you on the very first email. This is a great way for you to stand out and grab their attention, and more importantly, you'll maximize your chances of fvucking as many women as efficiently as possible. No more wasting time on attention wh0res who just want to be e-validated with back-and-forth emails and textathons.

If your method works for you use it. I'll stick to mine that works for me getting me the results I want. There isn't only "one way" to pick up chicks online. Being good looking makes you stand out. Any method you use will work. You can still fvck the same amount of women or more sending messages than not. Many girls that have been catfished won't go out on the first message. That decreases the chances with your method. They want to see if you're legit first. That still requires you to send them messages. And if you want to fvck them you're still going have to message them back. What's the point of it? Messages are still being sent. When chicks are DTF it will happen with whatever method you use.

When you invite a chick to drink with you. she's limited in her reaction: she can say "yes" or "no", or, she'll ignore you; or, she'll use the delay tactic and come up with an excuse ("I don't know you well enough"; "I don't date guys without talking to them first" blah blah blah).

Chicks only make excuses for guys they don't want to go out with. If they are DTF and like what they see you won't get any excuses. It will be as easy as pie getting them out.

If she says "no" or ignores you, or uses the bullshiat-delay tactic, then you simply go ghost and wait a few weeks and invite her out again.

Why would you waste your time asking out a chick again who said no and ignored you the first time? I doubt her answer will change any asking her out again. That will make you look desperate chasing after her to go out on a date. Why waste your time on uninterested women? You're still sending her messages with your method waiting on her answer for weeks that could still be no. Sounds like a real waste of time. Your method is slowing things down going ghost waiting for weeks at a time. My method has her interested right from the start. Getting the communication started and giving me her number setting things up. I like my way better since it works.

And, I invite you to consider that "getting a number" is not only completely unnecessary, but I don't even consider it an accomplishment.

Getting a number is not completely unnecessary at all and not sure why you would think that. There are tons of fake profiles on OLD. Some chicks are using 5-8 year old pics. Some chicks are nuts. I want to know if they are legit first before I use my valuable time going out.
Getting a number will confirm all of that to me so I don't waste my time.

These days, I NEVER ask for a phone number--this includes online dating AND in the so-called "real world.

That is your method to use.

Chicks give their phone number out like candy on Halloween. There's no value in a phone number anymore.

So what? Yes there is value in getting the number. Chicks will fvck you when they think you're hot. When you're not they won't with or without a number.

They check their emails just as much as (if not more than) their phone. If I want to make sure she's showing up, I'll simply email her: "Hey just finishing up a project. See you tonight at 7." If they don't respond to that email I don't show.

A number is better in case they need to reach you. She could say yeah I'm showing up and then flake last minute as you're waiting there for nothing. So you're basing what a chick looks like on just what she wants to show you online. She can show up looking older or fatter wasting your time.

A phone number often just slows things down. There's no need for it. I just invite them to drink with me at a specific time, at a specific place, on a specific day--and when the ones who say "yes" will almost always volunteer the phone number without my ever having even asked for it.

It doesn't slow anything down when you're getting several numbers from chicks to screen them first. You get to pick and choose who you want to go out with without wasting your time on chicks who don't cut it. Blindly showing up for a chick you think is hot and turns out to be not is slowing things down. When you could have went out with a chick who you actually know is hot with no bad surprises. So, you're getting the numbers from them anyway so what's the big deal? I'm not asking for their numbers either. They give it to me after I send them a couple of messages. Your way isn't the only way. The goal is to get laid and it doesn't matter how you go about it as long as you get the results.

 

[9Volt]

Skip the witty email(s) and just get right to the fvucking point and on the very first email invite them to drink with you.

This is a great way for you to stand out and grab their attention, and more importantly, you'll maximize your chances of meeting as many women as efficiently as possible.

Don't risk wasting your time on attention wh0res who just want to be e-validated with back-and-forth emails and textathons.

When you email a chick to drink with you, she's limited in the way that she can react: she can say "yes" or "no", or, she can ignore you; or, she can use an excuse ("I don't know you well enough"; "I don't date guys without talking to them first" blah blah blah).

If she says "no" or ignores you, or uses excuses, then you simply go ghost and wait a few weeks and invite her out again.

And, I invite you to consider that "getting a number" is not only completely unnecessary, but I wouldn't even consider it an accomplishment.

These days, I NEVER ask for a phone number--this includes online dating AND dating in the so-called "real world."

Chicks give their phone number out like candy on Halloween. I see absolutely no value in getting a girl's phone number. They check their emails just as much as (if not more than) voicemail/texts.

If I want to make sure she's showing up to drink with me, I'll simply email her the day of: "Hey just finishing up a project. See you tonight at The Rusty Pelican at 7." If they don't respond to that email, then I won't show.

Take the power AWAY from her by never asking for the number. Allow HER give it to YOU--without your ever even asking for it.

A phone number often just slows things down. There's no need for it. I like to invite them to drink with me & then go ghost until I meet them in person. I don't want to be texting and emailing them before the face-to-face meeting.

Just be sure invite them to drink with you at a specific time, at a specific place, on a specific day--on the very first email--and you'll see that the ones who say "yes" and are truly interested in meeting you will almost always volunteer their phone number without your ever even having to ask for it.

I agree that your method would work but it's majorly based off the individual they see in the pictures and how good he looks. (Which every dude should be working out and dressing/ grooming their best and using their best pictures.) Otherwise if the dude is too "short" or doesn't work out looks like a slob etc. He could ask everyone on the site out upfront and the vast majority are going to delete his message with the rest and go for the top looking dudes in the area.

The second issue is even IF you look extremely hot being there are dudes trolling OLD using fake pictures if you ask her for drinks she may have just been talking to or seeing fakes and then figures you're a fake profile too. Some chicks need a laugh quick or something that lowers their guard a bit at times. Then asking them out.

Whatever works for dudes I'd do and or they should try themselves.

Some dudes just like to complain about response rates yet have no plans of going to meet the chicks. Either (I suspect) because they have no money, they aren't what they claim they are, have some insecurity about themselves, or are too lazy to even meet the chicks yet just want to complain about response rates as they seem to be looking for attention only themselves.

A few dudes have took the fvck off online. One of them has probably banged over 15 chicks in four months from OLD and I've seen the pictures of the chicks. (All from your area.) lol.

I've retired from the OLD. In my area the quality (if there ever was any) went completely to sh1t. The dregs of society, degenerate chicks I wouldn't waste my time meeting as they look like STD cases.

Not sure but I've heard OLD has kindof fell off. Haven't been on there in a minute.

 

[goodasitgets]

And if your way of creating unique crafted personal messages to each chick works for you then have fun. Then again I'm not buying it. Seems like you're concerned with trying to have dudes do what doesn't work for most like the majority of dudes complain about sending unique crafted messages and get burnt out. Are you trying to get rid of your competition by offering "advice" to make things more difficult? Or are you even using OLD at all and prefer foreveralone misery loves company?

Other's don't have time for that. They spam, get number set up meet. Or just ask them for drinks on the first message. If someone's method works then that's what they'll use. There's choices in life. That's the good thing. If others want to use your way. Then they can and should.

You might want to post your own thread of OLD advice instead of ambiguous, vague "helpful tips". But you won't. Because you're here to contrarian troll and offer anti-advice "advice".

Are you going to tell Robert De Niro that he has to act like Jim Carrey? There is always more than one way to get your sh1t done and be successful. Don't be sour grapes that your "advice" is not the only way to get things done.

So you go back to projecting and lying. You only want it to be "your way" claiming another way won't work. If it goes against your method it's "trolling" no matter that the other ways work.

Whatever way works then use it. All I'm saying is that sending out a bunch spam will get your account deleted at some point. If others are using your message too the likelihood increases. I was on a forum with 13 guys who had their accounts deleted due to sending spam emails. I was just offering a warning that it could happen. There is no burn out when there isn't many chicks worth emailing and takes 2 seconds to make up. Messages only work if you look good. If you don't nothing will work.

Sending out a wacky pre-made spam email vs a wacky email you make up based on a chick's pic/profile makes no difference when the goal is the same. She will still respond no matter what if she wants to and you're claiming she won't.

If you're not good looking nothing will work for you. You have the time to think up creative spam emails to send out. Thinking up one randomly based on a chick's profile takes no time at all. We both agree that most chicks on OLD are a waste of time. There are very few chicks to write. So thinking up a random 2 second email takes no time at all to send.

You want me to post my past openers so you can spam them out? It wouldn't work since it pertains to individual chicks.

My advice is simple. Have a personality and a quick wit to bust the chick's chops other than the other dudes sending out lame messages. Each one is going to be different based on the chick's pics and profile. I can't count how many times a chick has told me that the message I sent was the best she ever read. Also that it's refreshing to have something original than a boring "hey what's up" or a message that is mass emailed. If you don't know how to talk to chicks besides spamming emails it's a waste of time when they get bored of you if you even meet up.

 

[9Volt]

Are you going to tell Robert De Niro that he has to act like Jim Carrey? There is always more than one way to get your sh1t done and be successful. Don't be sour grapes that your "advice" is not the only way to get things done.

So you go back to projecting and lying. You only want it to be "your way" claiming another way won't work. If it goes against your method it's "trolling" no matter that the other ways work.

Whatever way works then use it. All I'm saying is that sending out a bunch spam will get your account deleted at some point. If others are using your message too the likelihood increases. I was on a forum with 13 guys who had their accounts deleted due to sending spam emails. I was just offering a warning that it could happen. There is no burn out when there isn't many chicks worth emailing and takes 2 seconds to make up. Messages only work if you look good. If you don't nothing will work.

Sending out a wacky pre-made spam email vs a wacky email you make up based on a chick's pic/profile makes no difference when the goal is the same. She will still respond no matter what if she wants to and you're claiming she won't.

If you're not good looking nothing will work for you. You have the time to think up creative spam emails to send out. Thinking up one randomly based on a chick's profile takes no time at all. We both agree that most chicks on OLD are a waste of time. There are very few chicks to write. So thinking up a random 2 second email takes no time at all to send.

You want me to post my past openers so you can spam them out? It wouldn't work since it pertains to individual chicks.

My advice is simple. Have a personality and a quick wit to bust the chick's chops other than the other dudes sending out lame messages. Each one is going to be different based on the chick's pics and profile. I can't count how many times a chick has told me that the message I sent was the best she ever read. Also that it's refreshing to have something original than a boring "hey what's up" or a message that is mass emailed. If you don't know how to talk to chicks besides spamming emails it's a waste of time when they get bored of you if you even meet up.

Yet you're trying to promote your own way and "debunk" what "doesn't" work.

Post link to forum you posted in discussing with 13 other guys or it didn't happen.

What happened sooli? Did no boundaries discussion bore you? Lmao

 

[Slash Dolo]

I've gotten two responses after a total of 15-20 emails (from two hb8s). I also got an email from an hb7 first, so things are looking up. Most of the emails haven't been read as the recipients haven't been online; maybe PoF isn't the best for active users. There are an ABUNDANCE of large women on there it appears. I've gotten emailed by 3 larger women on there, and when browsing I see a ton (no pun intended.)

I took Espi's advice primarily. I open with something random/witty, if I get a response I invite them out for a drink.

 

[skinnyguy]

If you're not successful in real life, you won't be successful online.

If anything, women are even more picky about looks online. Really the only thing they care about is your pic.