Online Dating is Beta Game

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Naughty ninja, youre acting as if there argument is that online dating can be BOTH good and bad. Thats not their argument. Theres is that online dating is ALWAYS bad and always used by betas.

If there argument was that online dating is good for easy lays but bad for finding relationships, then thatd be one thing. Youre giving their argument entirely toi much credit, since they clearly dont see it the way you or I do.
 

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Hate to break it to you guys but online dating is the "real world". The girls you smugly pick up at a bar or club are the same ones who have online profiles. This isn't 1998, 70% or more of single individuals use online dating at some point. The main difference is that in-person approaches require a different skill set, which DJs should still have.

So get off your high school high horse and stop hating on other people's game. There is enough women for everyone, who cares how they are aquired.
 

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Colossus said:
Hate to break it to you guys but online dating is the "real world". The girls you smugly pick up at a bar or club are the same ones who have online profiles. This isn't 1998, 70% or more of single individuals use online dating at some point. The main difference is that in-person approaches require a different skill set, which DJs should still have.

So get off your high school high horse and stop hating on other people's game. There is enough women for everyone, who cares how they are aquired.
:yes:

Dudes seperating the girls you meet out at bars/clubs from the ones you meet online are.... clueless...

At least in my area (which is your area) they're one in the same.

I do online dating because it's easier for me... Not because im afraid of being out or whatever... It's just so much easier that it doesn't make sense to do any other route.
 

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So guy who meets girl online and ends up being her boyfriend is a loser when compared to guy who meets same girl for ONS "in the real world"?
Sry was typing from phone and my message read kinda jumbled. This is what I was saying...

Using online dating to get azz is ok

Using online dating to find a gf is bad
 

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aw, fvck you. this is an individual thing and you don't know jack shyte about any of the other guys here.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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Colossus said:
Hate to break it to you guys but online dating is the "real world". The girls you smugly pick up at a bar or club are the same ones who have online profiles. This isn't 1998, 70% or more of single individuals use online dating at some point. The main difference is that in-person approaches require a different skill set, which DJs should still have.

So get off your high school high horse and stop hating on other people's game. There is enough women for everyone, who cares how they are aquired.

Exactly. Trolling for ass at a bar or club provides the same quality of women as online dating. In fact, like you said, chicks at bars and clubs usually have online acciunts

By the same token, looking for a gf in a bar or club is equally as bad as looking for one online. Also, using ONLY online to get azz rather than using it to supplement real world azz is a bad idea

Approaching online vs in person are much different, but the only explanation for one man criticizing another man for using online as one of several avenues for getting easy azz screams mental disorder/insecure/projecting their own sexual frustration on others/ etc
 

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bukowski_merit said:
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I do online dating because it's easier for me... Not because im afraid of being out or whatever... It's just so much easier that it doesn't make sense to do any other route.
Be honest, when youre taking an online chick to pound town theres not a small part of you thinking "man I wonder what the fellas at sosuave will think about my method for gaming ghis chick"?

Im 100% with you. If all I want is azz, and I can pull a dozen ONS in a month using online id be stupid not to use it. Problem is most guys here cant pull kike that online so they bash it instead. Its the difference between shopping on ebay vs going to a garage sale.
 

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Approaching online vs in person are much different, but the only explanation for one man criticizing another man for using online as one of several avenues for getting easy azz screams mental disorder/insecure/projecting their own sexual frustration on others/ etc
And you shouting about how real "rape culture" is screams mangina. Besides that you getting so pissy over the fact online dating is beta game shows you don't use it just to subsidize off days, stop pretending it's not your bread and butter.

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Hate to break it to you guys but online dating is the "real world". The girls you smugly pick up at a bar or club are the same ones who have online profiles. This isn't 1998, 70% or more of single individuals use online dating at some point.
Only problem is the other 30% who don't use it (or more importantly will never need to use it) are the ones we really want. You can spin it how you want, still doesn't change OP's point.
 
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If 70% of women have used online dating at some point, it's likely 95% of men have. We can agree online dating provides the easiest access to women we otherwise wouldn't have met. It facilitates the approach for intimacy and sex. You are putting in minimal effort and damage to your ego. As I said before; comfort, convenience and security are beta traits.

I have more respect for a guy that gets rejected in real life than someone getting numbers by spamming messages. He may not get any numbers. However, he is stepping out of his comfort zone and risking an ego bruising. The future looks pretty sad. Betas will resort to the easiest way to get laid, they get self-gratification from their notch count. Is that not putting p*ssy on a pedestal?

You shouldn't pursue relationships with women who use online dating, only for easy lays since they are poor quality.

You are lowering your standards to get your d!ck wet. Pretty desperate, no?
 

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BeginningDJ said:
If 70% of women have used online dating at some point, it's likely 95% of men have. We can agree online dating provides the easiest access to women we otherwise wouldn't have met. It facilitates the approach for intimacy and sex. You are putting in minimal effort and damage to your ego. As I said before; comfort, convenience and security are beta traits.

I have more respect for a guy that gets rejected in real life than someone getting numbers by spamming messages. He may not get any numbers. However, he is stepping out of his comfort zone and risking an ego bruising. The future looks pretty sad. Betas will resort to the easiest way to get laid, they get self-gratification from their notch count. Is that not putting p*ssy on a pedestal?

You shouldn't pursue relationships with women who use online dating, only for easy lays since they are poor quality.

You are lowering your standards to get your d!ck wet. Pretty desperate, no?
I'm really asking myself "What the fvck?" to your post!

Why focus on this alpha/beta nonsense?

What "Alpha" god sets these rules?

I'm a bad@ss womanizing motherfvcker and I don't give a sh!t about any of that stuff.

It seems like you're saying the guy who goes to a bar and gets a ONS out of it with some random girl is better off than the guy who games the SAME GIRL online and gets a one night stand from here - - - that's more logic from the land of "What the fvck?"

We're putting pvssy on a pedestal by fvcking b!tches and never talking to them again??? (in most cases... Sometimes I actuallllllllly meet a woman who I'd like to see some other times... And then I do.)

I mean, i really don't know man.... I understand that you don't like all the "online dating" posts, and that you don't like online dating itself. But I think you're grinding the wrong axe....

This is some warped reality stuff to sit on this board and wag your finger at dudes who are DOING IT! Who are doing what others on this board think they would love (I say "think" because it's not as glamorous as it seems.)


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As far as it being beta game to dow hat's easiest and what works....

that is making the needle skip off the record for me...

Not making any kind of sense...

I mean sh!t - if it's all about doing what's harder - then maybe you should cut your legs off tonight and try to game women with no legs.

Or pour acid on your face and look like one of the Ghouls from Fallout 3 and try to game women like that....

It's just not logical thinking....

And seems more like a sign of BIGtime overthinking ....

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MOST single women will try online dating. Some stick around, some leave. But there's a good chance that girl you're gaming (or the next schmuck is on here posting "could be the one") has had at least a few online dongs in her before.

The girl you're talking to at the bar, might not have been texting earlier when you saw her - - - she just might have been sending a message to some guy on OKCupid about how all the guys are lame here.... Some women stick to one or the other (bars or online) But a lot of single women at bars can spread their legs wide enough to let some online d!ck in there too!

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Some women are online lifers and you'll see them on every dating site out there and they never close their profiles.

But the average woman you meet is either on one of her cycles... Or is out of a relationship and looking for casual... Or... is just an average girl looking to fish out of her sea...

A cycle goes like this:

Woman starts online profile ->
Most women get a lot more attention online than in person. So they like it at first... ->
She's probably getting hit on by guys who are notches above what she's used to (aka: guys who are good with women. aka NOT 95% of your competition online!) ->
She meets up with a few and fvcks them either after a few dates or on the same night - >
She gets played, hurt, fvcked over... Pumped and dumped...

Having an online profile is something tangible! If you're feeling slvtty about getting played for the 4th time this month - you can just project your mistakes onto the source. In this case - it's her online profile...

So she blows it up... Cancels it...

Then she either tries the bar/club scene again (or exclusively)
Or does the whole "done with guys for now" thing (which never lasts long).

Those two don't work out.... So she eventually finds her way back to online dating....

This is the case with many women...

I tell women this lol.... I tell them that online dating is mostly futile because of the men women choose to fvck online (not the "nice guys")... So they will get played over and over...

When asked where to find guys then if not online or in bars...

The answer is always SOCIAL CIRCLE or even WORK. Much smaller chance of getting played.... MUCH more at stake, so the guy normally won't unless he wants the feelings...

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Not really a lot more to say on this though.

Stop worrying about labels and have fun.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

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You are too focused on defending the online kingdom that you are missing the point.

bukowski_merit said:
It seems like you're saying the guy who goes to a bar and gets a ONS out of it with some random girl is better off than the guy who games the SAME GIRL online and gets a one night stand from here - - - that's more logic from the land of "What the fvck?"
Yes, in your face rejection is more ego bruising than online rejection. The guys huddling the dance floor wouldn't have a problem sending messages online. Comfort and convenience of online dating allows chumps the easiest passage to intimacy and sex.

You are saying that the girl you met online can be the same one from the bar. That is NOT the topic of this thread.

bukowski_merit said:
A cycle goes like this:

Woman starts online profile ->
Most women get a lot more attention online than in person. So they like it at first... ->
She's probably getting hit on by guys who are notches above what she's used to (aka: guys who are good with women. aka NOT 95% of your competition online!) ->
She meets up with a few and fvcks them either after a few dates or on the same night - >
She gets played, hurt, fvcked over... Pumped and dumped...

Having an online profile is something tangible! If you're feeling slvtty about getting played for the 4th time this month - you can just project your mistakes onto the source. In this case - it's her online profile...

So she blows it up... Cancels it...

Then she either tries the bar/club scene again (or exclusively)
Or does the whole "done with guys for now" thing (which never lasts long).

Those two don't work out.... So she eventually finds her way back to online dating....

This is the case with many women...
You know these women are damaged goods. Doesn't matter, had sex?

bukowski_merit said:
When asked where to find guys then if not online or in bars...

The answer is always SOCIAL CIRCLE or even WORK. Much smaller chance of getting played.... MUCH more at stake, so the guy normally won't unless he wants the feelings...
Ever tried day game?

Oh wait, these broads might be the same ones online and in the clubs.
 
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Espi said:
I've been subscribing to online dating sites for over 10 years, and I can say that while the Net has definitely added another social dimension to dating, it hasn't made meeting women that much easier. If it did, then there wouldn't be sites like SS, right?

If it were easy, everybody would be online meeting gorgeous women.

Like you pointed out, the competition for the primest of women is always fierce. If you put 10 hot girls in a bar, eventually, 20 men will visit the place, and soon enough, you'll have a sausagefest happening. Same thing with online: thousands of women are now available, yes...but I'll bet many MORE thousands of guys are competing for the attention of those thousands of women. So the men have to compete just as hard.

To attract the most beautiful women, you have to work hard, regardless of the medium. A phone or an Internet dating site or even a nightclub requires persistence and hard work. They are just tools, avenues, for meeting women. But no method makes the DJ immune from ego damage.

If you think online dating is a cakewalk, then you must be Brad Pitt, or, you're just really naturally gifted at attracting gorgeous women.
I don't think online dating is cakewalk.

One does 100% real life approaches for 5 years.
The other does 100% online approaches for 5 years.

The guy doing 100% online approaches probably will have a higher lay count with the available access to women (I guess that's all that matters these days right?) The guy doing 100% real-life approaches develops higher social confidence.
 

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BeginningDJ said:
I don't think online dating is cakewalk.

One does 100% real life approaches for 5 years.
The other does 100% online approaches for 5 years.

The guy doing 100% online approaches probably will have a higher lay count with the available access to women (I guess that's all that matters these days right?) The guy doing 100% real-life approaches develops higher social confidence.

You can build social confidence through online dating only if you're successful at meeting and banging different chicks off it IF you learn how to do it and not let yourself be affected by it at all and taking the whole thing with a grain of salt. You know you can always go to online dating to get extra side poon. (If your area in general isn't populated enough or you want to take small steps and learn "Approaching" that way.) Once you start getting replies, knowing how to interact with different chicks it becomes easier in real life and a dude may be less worried about rejections in real life once he starts.

ONLY using online dating isn't good. Especially if youre the type to take things to heart (no replies etc.)

Some dudes won't try online dating yet will post here for God knows how long and never go out in real life or develop a clue on how to meet real life chicks regardless.

I say if a dude doesn't want to try online dating or isn't looking for those types (even for a lay) don't bother but if the same dude is never meeting or asking questions about EVERY interaction, second guessing everything with real life chicks etc. then that dude is a foreveralone.

Different strokes for different folks.
 

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You can build social confidence through online dating only if you're successful at meeting and banging different chicks off it
I'm not buying that, you can chew through the online route of river pigs, cluster B's and single mothers until the cows come home and think you're onlines answer to Don Juan DeMarco himself. Beta game is still beta game, our loser in love will still sh!t himself as soon as he stumbles onto a gaggle of hotties in real life interactions (Of which he will never put himself in that scary situation anyway for the simple fact he's not leaving his online comfort zone)

I'll say again. What the hell happened to telling noobs to go out and get 10, 20, 30 rejections to build the confidence required to game the chicks they actually want? (You know, the 30% according to colossus who never actually need to go online to find someone) That was pretty popular once upon a time here. This sosuave 2.0 advice is piss weak.
 

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I'm not buying that, you can chew through the online route of river pigs, cluster B's and single mothers until the cows come home and think you're onlines answer to Don Juan DeMarco himself. Beta game is still beta game, our loser in love will still sh!t himself as soon as he stumbles onto a gaggle of hotties in real life interactions (Of which he will never put himself in that scary situation anyway for the simple fact he's not leaving his online comfort zone)

I'll say again. What the hell happened to telling noobs to go out and get 10, 20, 30 rejections to build the confidence required to game the chicks they actually want? This sosuave 2.0 advice is piss weak.

Would you drive yourself insane advising dudes who simply can't do real life approaches at whatever point they're in in their lives? Some dudes have to start somewhere.

No one is saying online chicks are worth wifing up, and there's no way in hell to tell a chicks ever used online dating if you met them in real life unless she tells you or you found out by seeing her on a site. No ones telling dudes NOT to go out and meet chicks in real life. No ones telling dudes they HAVE to use online dating or they should become a lifer on it using it as a crutch.


Just like texting. I personally don't care for it. (Then again I don't answer my phone hardly ever.) I say use the phone and texting. Whatever works. If everyone said FVCK TEXTING! I'm a REAL man! They'd be missing out on a lot of potential pvzzy. Whether you I or anyone else likes it or not.
 

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Naughty Ninja said:
Would you drive yourself insane advising dudes who simply can't do real life approaches at whatever point they're in in their lives? Some dudes have to start somewhere.
It's not the new dudes who "drive me insane". It's these so called Master DJ's (you) who enable dudes who can do real life approaches if they only grabbed their balls but instead are advised to stay in their comfort zones and rake through the muck.

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If everyone said FVCK TEXTING! I'm a REAL man! They'd be missing out on a lot of potential pvzzy.
Texting is a necessary evil for the red pill man. Scouring the interwebz for dead sh!ts and dropkicks shouldn't be.
 
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I'll say again. What the hell happened to telling noobs to go out and get 10, 20, 30 rejections to build the confidence required to game the chicks they actually want? (You know, the 30% according to colossus who never actually need to go online to find someone) That was pretty popular once upon a time here. This sosuave 2.0 advice is piss weak.
To be 2013 Anti-Approach Anxiety Champion, you are only *required* to attempt 12 number closes.
 

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It's not the new dudes who "drive me insane". It's these so called Master DJ's (you) who enable dudes who can do real life approaches if they only grabbed their balls but instead are advised to stay in their comfort zones and rake through the muck.


Texting is a necessary evil for the red pill man. Scouring the interwebz for dead sh!ts and dropkicks shouldn't be.
Who advised anyone to stay in a comfort zone? Trying online dating out, fvck around on there using it as an extra tool IF you feel like it ONLY for possible extra side pvzzy or to practice talking to chicks.

Not everyone can run out constantly to clubs,bars etc. by themselves or drag friends with them everynight and NOT spend money when they can BS around online during the week and still go out on weekends.

Here's how things work with normal dudes everywhere. They meet chicks in bars, clubs, online, vacation etc. MOST will meet and wind up with chicks met through friends or social circles some through work or going out. They don't just randomly approach every stranger and bang every chick in sight like some dudes on here would like to make people believe.

Normal dudes who meet tons of chicks ALL THE TIME in real life and any and every way can smell the BS a mile away on here.

If SS feels like preaching the "only meet chicks THIS way", only do THIS/ only do THAT then good luck with that.

Hell half the posts on here are dudes crying about some chick, have no friggin idea what the hell to do, are trollololing, date BPD after BPD (through no fault of their own of course), are ONLY Red pilling themselves insane, are promoting "paradise" in foreign lands, or have no interest in chicks period.

The BS and nonsense is thick on SS. Keep KJing though.
 
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