Online dating has gotten worse since I last did it. You've been warned

[Obsidian]

In my recent experience you can get away with waiting a day (24 hours), two AT MOST, and 3 is pushing it.

I don't see what the point would be in waiting longer than one day. I usually try to wait about 6-18 hours.

 

[Cloudtopsun2100]

just assembly line the whole thing, there is a new app where I am that is like Tinder -- missed the boat on Tinder, gonna try to see if the app works.. yes, alot of tire kickers as a another poster wrote -- lot of girls doing online for nothing but validation and are horribly entitled which is why I began doing more daygame which is much harder but also helps your social skills and is more enjoyable once things go past the initial open/ convo prior to the sedgeway

 

[Solomon]

GOod thread

What irks me is how did the women with the kid knew where you live? you musta giving her your address which to me shows poor judgement on your part unless the plan was for you to meet her and bang her on sunday. I see no reason to give a woman online my address

On another note I do agree with on women being jaded by losers they dated. I had one women go on and on in our first convo about some loser she met up with on a date. Needless to say we never went out. If a woman talks about some loser ex, I wouldn't hesitate to leave

Online dating is good for pump and dump only but the field is better!

From what I've observed, most women who advertise online are looking for "providers" that meet a certain looks threshold

Spot on this is why there so many Single mothers and washed up women Online. If a chick is semi-hot she can get a stud online. I know a girl whose got a good job but is slightly thicker and has a kid but she is dating an athlete thanks to online dating on sosuave scale she would be a 6 and her boyfriend an 8

I'm having success online dating, averaging about 6 first dates a month. That's aside from those I meet at social gatherings, networking and cold approaching. OLD is a good way to gather options, although most veterans will call it a 'buffer.' I'd say once you have already developed your game, it's no longer a crutch, but an incredible supplement.

Paging NaughtyNinja and Bukowski_merit

Edit: Wrong member shoutouts.

I'm curious to know what city you live in. I belive that onlne dating now a days is all about demographics for instance if you're in NYC, Chicago, Toronto, L.A. online dating is alive and well if you're Idaho, Minneapolis etc than it's pretty much a waste of time because the girls are bottom of the barrel whereas in a bigger city you'll get some wilderbeast but some hotties as well so it evens out

 

[logicallefty]

Roll in the mud with pigs and youre going to get dirty.

:crackup: Well put.

 

[Robert28]

WAIT, aren't you the dude that thinks looks are everything???

Oh Yeah! ROBERT fvcking 28!!!!!

I think we talked about online dating in the past and apparently you aren't attractive. Receding hairline...okay. Weren't you the one to say that online dating is all about looks back in 2012?

Yeah that was YOU, Robert28....You were going on and on about looks. How looks were 99%. I remember YOU, you haven't changed if you are still online dating.

Do you realize that online dating is 99% looks?

Wasn't me because I don't have a receding hairline. Looks ARE everything though so whoever you're thinking about was right.

 

[Robert28]

Is it really a surprise she has been on many bad dates?

Remember that guys on OLD are low quality too. The girl is just going to pick the hottest guy she can find, and guess what, he's probably a player or a loser!!!!

Women go for the opposite of what they say they want. She wants a clean cut guy with a job? She will go out with the deadbeat guy with tattoos all over his body because he's "sexy".

As a man you should ask yourself why you are on OLD. If it's because you can't get puss in real life, you need to do some introspection.

It's not that I can't get @$$ in real life, the problem lately is most of the girls I've come across were married, engaged, in serious relationships. Or if they were single they weren't my type at all.

 

[Robert28]

What irks me is how did the women with the kid knew where you live? you musta giving her your address which to me shows poor judgement on your part unless the plan was for you to meet her and bang her on sunday. I see no reason to give a woman online my address

On another note I do agree with on women being jaded by losers they dated. I had one women go on and on in our first convo about some loser she met up with on a date. Needless to say we never went out. If a woman talks about some loser ex, I wouldn't hesitate to leave

Online dating is good for pump and dump only but the field is better!



Spot on this is why there so many Single mothers and washed up women Online. If a chick is semi-hot she can get a stud online. I know a girl whose got a good job but is slightly thicker and has a kid but she is dating an athlete thanks to online dating on sosuave scale she would be a 6 and her boyfriend an 8



I'm curious to know what city you live in. I belive that onlne dating now a days is all about demographics for instance if you're in NYC, Chicago, Toronto, L.A. online dating is alive and well if you're Idaho, Minneapolis etc than it's pretty much a waste of time because the girls are bottom of the barrel whereas in a bigger city you'll get some wilderbeast but some hotties as well so it evens out

Well she knew the name of my business and it has the same address as my house so she googled my business and bam, got my address.lol I was ok with it because I thought she was coming over by herself, I wasn't expecting her to bring her kid with her.lol

 

[old married dude]

Women go for the opposite of what they say they want. She wants a clean cut guy with a job? She will go out with the deadbeat guy with tattoos all over his body because he's "sexy".

Which is really strange & proves women have ****ty taste for the most part.

I don't even give second glance to the freaks that have a couple dozen tattoos, pink hair, and tons of metal in their faces. It's not feminine in any way.

 

[trailerpark]

So, I haven't done online dating in awhile and decided to mess around with it since it's been several years since I last messed with it. I thought times might have changed some but my experience was a huge eye opener! The following are my experiences on match.com(I don't mess around with pof or okcupid).

-Used to be if you put up a few pics of you with good looking women, more women would be more apt to talk to you since the pics showed you weren't a creep since you were hanging around hot women. Not any longer, they won't talk to you if you have pics with hot girls in them because they automatically assume you're some sort of player. However, most women still have tons of random pics of them with random guys who they pass off as "friends", but we all know that's bs.

-Being direct in the first message doesn't work anymore. "Hey, I liked your profile and think we have a lot in common, let's get together one night this week...." or some sort of variation of that doesn't get a response anymore or the response you get is "I'm not going out with someone I don't know". This plan used to work like a charm but I guess so many guys are doing it now.

-The biggest thing you have to deal with is how many bad dates these women have been on and that's their sole reason for their apparent hesitation they have up to give you a chance. Makes you wonder why they chose to date the idiots and cant tell the difference between an idiot and a genuine decent guy. It's like real life, most girls choose to date bums, same thing online apparently.

-Don't wait to email a girl back or else she's already done with you. Even if you're busy and work 70 hours a week and don't get on every second of every day to check your messages that's no excuse apparently. But, they can be busy and take forever to get back to you and that's ok.lol I've never understood how so many women online can be so busy as they claim, but they sure do find the time to be online a lot.

-I had a date set up with one girl on a Sunday but she kept texting me non-stop and out of the blue pretty much invited herself over to my house Thursday. Brought her kid with her!!! Talk about awkward. Needless to say we didn't go on a date Sunday.lol The weird thing is apparently she lost interest for some reason, but it wasn't enough to leave my house. She hung out for over 4 hours. Why would you hangout with someone for 4 hours if you weren't interested? I'm glad we didn't go on the scheduled date though because the whole bringing your kid over to someone's house the first time just killed it for me anyways.

-Girls respond to confrontational messages. If you send her a message that's all nice and sweet she won't respond, but call her a name and then she's quick to respond.lol Just something I was trying out. Doesn't work but it is fun to get them all pissed off.

-Girls love to send you winks and when you email them they won't respond. Not sure what that's all about but whatever.

-There are tons of women STILL on match that I remember being on there 2 years ago!

-You can't ask random questions because for some reason they will make assumptions about you. I told one girl she looked hot in her heels. She accused me of having a foot fetish.lol The weird thing is most women on there are quick to want to talk about when do you want to have kids and when do you want to get married. Apparently they consider that normal and good conversation????

-You'll go a couple of weeks without getting a response from even average girls and then all of a sudden you'll have 15 messages from all kinds of girls. It's very weird. I thought it was fake profiles at first but it's not because I got their numbers.

-Girls are bad about having super high expectations on there and then when the date comes apparently they are let down or something. My pics are very recent(taken within the past month) so I know I look the same but for some reason when we go on the date(after they've contantly texted me and blown up my phone) it's like theyre all shy and standoffish.

-Oh, I went on a date with a beautiful girl! Or so I thought. Her pics indicated so anyways. I go on the date and the girl is crosseyed! None of her pics indicated this, I even looked at her facebook pics and didn't see anything like this at all! How the hell do you hide being crosseyed in pics so well??

-Girls on match LOVE to talk about their ex's or who they've been banging or whatever when you go on the date. I try to change the subject but they somehow bring it back to the ex and at the end they'll give you a speech about how you don't measure up to what theyre looking for.lol

-You can't get down on yourself with online dating, just remember you are being judged by some real fruitcakes.

Remember as cliché as it is ^^^All of the above^^^ goes right out the window if you are well above average in looks, height and physique. *And let's face it Caucasian and Hispanic are the two most sought after along with those qualities.

Females will say whatever makes them look good for public advertisement. "Don't message me with your shirt off, no players/ douchebags" they'll say as reverse psychology that works on MOST men. The average dudes who may be good are just chumps to fall for that "do not want" nonsense which is just to get them to write thinking the female is "really" looking for that. The players and douches as well as the dudes who know the BS know it's exactly that and that is what they are looking for. The hot dude who's cut up with his shirt off to live vicariously through to make their friends jealous and as arm candy.

Nothing wrong with that as everyone has standards but let's face it. Those who know aren't fooled in the least by these chicks and what POSITIVE QUALITIES THEY OFFER, which is nothing for the most part but sex.

If you aren't "up to snuff" in looks, height physique and even race THAT is what you are judged by. Everything "positive" is fantasized by those OLD females for the dudes who are in the top selections.

It's like NAME BRAND HIGH END shopping for FREE or very little money for females. Pick the best off the shelves no matter if it's really worth it or not and leave everything else no matter how good it may really be in cyber space.

No hate or saying dudes who are tops in looks are necessarily "bad" they know what time it is with OLD. They aren't really "winning" even IF they get the majority of meets because the female online shoppers are no where near in the quality "credit score" for what they think they're worth.

I have NEVER heard of ANY dude meeting a chick offline that was quality and ended up in a serious LTR with her. Now there are a lot of trash guys on there too but hey it's like a virtual dive bar. The "same" could be said for females in real life but there's a much higher concentration of complete garbage in low end dive bars and OLD than elsewhere.

online dating is for the dregs of humanity.

If a female is using online dating she is either:

A piece of garbage herself but looking for the perfect man to live vicariously through.

Attention wh0ring

Just broke up with her ex or is looking to possibly upgrade/ cheat.

The town cvm dumpster.

A dude looking to see other dudes opening messages or just breaking peoples balls.

A nut case.

A drug addict and or alcoholic.

A whale.

A single mom up to X amount of kids.

A transvestite. (Lots of them frequent free dating sites these days)

Broke and or not but looking for free dinners, drinks, gifts, bills to get paid etc.

Not who she is in the pictures she used, photoshopped, had touched up, took in perfect lighting, used angles etc.

Has issues of various kinds.

OLD is worse than real life. At least you can somewhat vet a female through friends, family and seeing how they are upfront.

OLD is what the females who use it NEED.

There should be no legit reason for any attractive female to use OLD unless she's any of the above.

I liken it to a sh1thole dive bar. There may be some attractive females in there but those who are frequent customers are trash bags. And at least in real life you get a feel for where a female hangs out and with whom etc.

Unless you prefer frequenting virtual dive bars looking for "quality". Then it's on you.

^^^This.^^^

Took a look at POF and it's littered with the above selection. Ok Cupid seems to be slightly "better" with tree hugging save the world fruitcakes, whales, hot chicks (who shouldn't need OLD unless they are screwed up and known in their area as not being quality etc.)

Match haven't been on in years. Met several whack jobs on there. They were hot in person but the nut case in them came out almost ASAP.

Use OLD for fun. Pump and Dump. The odds are better hitting the lotto than finding someone quality online. When it first started it was better but it's become like a high end club that eventually falls off and lets anyone in and becomes known as a sh2thole for trash.

Some dudes will actually brainwash themselves into thinking they've found quality online then find out soon enough the complete opposite.

 

[crgideon]

Sounds like OP has a creepy profile pick.

OKcupid and POF in LA has been great to me.

 

[Obsidian]

You know, I actually do have a fairly high number of girls that will message me back once or twice and then stop. I wonder if maybe waiting half a day to respond is indeed too long.

I don't really think there's anything wrong with the messages themselves. And it seems like if my profile sucked then they wouldn't even message once. Hmm...

 

[Yewki]

You know, I actually do have a fairly high number of girls that will message me back once or twice and then stop. I wonder if maybe waiting half a day to respond is indeed too long.

Probably. The underlying problem is they get non stop messages from guys all the time. They are like kids in a candy shop. Some better looking dude messages her, she suddenly drops you and wants that one instead. Responding sooner would decrease the window where "better" guys can message her.

 

[trailerpark]

"Work on your looks" Not for females online no less.

"Meet up ASAP" Unless you're desperate to meet nut jobs, slores etc. I'd say vet them a bit on the phone.

For men who claim to have high standards it seems the advice is to run and meet as many online females as quick as you can.

Be choosy yourself. Yes go and meet certain females ASAP, and do work on your looks for YOU not for female "approval".

A friend of mine who used to post on this site and lives in Florida West coast side has smashed multiple chicks online. He's told me personally even though he gets pretty hot younger ones EVERY female he's met is a COMPLETE fcvk up and some of the worst human beings imaginable. And he's banged white, latina, and black. All younger. All using online dating. He's said he's had to take breaks as these types of females really got to him as seeing ALL females as garbage.

I told him it's online. They are on there for a reason and the difference between online and real life is online chicks are dive bar types. If you frequent dive bars in real life and "date" women who frequent dive bars you are going to end up with all of the lowest forms of females no matter if they are hot or not.

Seems some of you will trip over yourselves to "validate" yourselves off a pretty smile and nice figure. Some of those "prizes" are booby traps. Especially if they've had to resort to OLD.

Any normal female I've known. Never seen them or heard about them using OLD. They didn't need to. Any nut female I've known? Surprise. All using OLD.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

I'm not photogenic and don't know how to take good pictures so I underachieve on this websites. I met one chick who couldn't believe it was me in the picture she almost walked right pasted me. Told me I look much better in person, and this is not the first time a women has said this. I get more play in real life then on dating websites. being photogenic is one of the most important factors

 

[trailerpark]

I'm not photogenic and don't know how to take good pictures so I underachieve on this websites. I met one chick who couldn't believe it was me in the picture she almost walked right pasted me. Told me I look much better in person, and this is not the first time a women has said this. I get more play in real life then on dating websites. being photogenic is one of the most important factors

+1 rep.

Nerds want to use some magic lines to undo years of neglecting themselves and being socially awkward.

The better you look = the "funnier and more charming" you are. Especially online.

A hot looking dude could basically say: Boo! and have females giggling and find it so "unique". An average looking in pictures dude could be all comedians and smooth talkers in one and be a "read delete".

 

[om1xr]

I never tried online dating because where I live those services are not popular and I never bothered unless you consider Facebook is an online dating lol. And I don't even use Facebrag.

But in real life I can get beautiful girls just by my looks and the way I carry myself (think of raw confidence) and no I don't have money or car or tatoos and recently I dropped most of friends and by that social prove is not there as well.

So who knows? Maybe if I were living in europe (west or east) or US or Australia or Southern America I will give it a try but until I gtfo of this place I will never know.

 

[MAYALL]

How are the quality of looks with the women on those sites?

 

[Obsidian]

I've gotten a cute, maybe 6.5ish girl off OkCupid. I feel like if she lost a slight amount of weight (which she keeps bringing up) then she could easily be an 8.

But my main problem is that I want more girls. If nothing else, I just want to prove to myself that I can get more. I can't believe all the stuck-up b1tches who keep ignoring my messages like they're better than me.

 

[Robert28]

Sounds like OP has a creepy profile pick.

OKcupid and POF in LA has been great to me.

Well, my main pic is of me and a girl who is hotter than anything I've seen online. Maybe they think my profile is a fake.lol

 

[Robert28]

It's not getting dates that's the problem, I could go on plenty of them from Match. It's just that I'm not going to saddle myself going out with a different woman every single night. They have to be more than just hot for me to go out with them. Also, for those saying ask them out within the first email or two, what age range women does that work on? Because I'm 32 and I target women 21-29, they're less desperate to go out with you then say 35-45. I can easily pass for 25-26 and probably should have lied about my age and put 29 or so but they still respond. My gripe is it seems to be a LOT more work then it used to be. Girls are freaked out by the news and those Craigslist killing stories so theyre very picky it seems. I have plenty of pics up (not a single selfie either) of me with many different beautiful women that I either dated or personally know. This seems to work because it shows the women that hey if they're hanging out with him he must not be so bad. You still deal with the bs though. I'm also not seeing anymore hot women then were there 2 or so years ago. It's still about the same actually.