Online Chat went wrong

[harkkam08]

She seemed really interested through the emails we sent back and forth. I dont know what happened. When we chatted, I think I ruined it by not building enough rapport and asking for her number.

 

[COD]

Dude U Aint Getting It......schools In

PAY ATTENTION................I aint a super model.......I am average at best..........but I do get laid like a rock star.

heres what you reveled...........U messaged........

"Probably like 35 women on POF and only like three responded. "

There lies the PROOF that you email messages BLOW CHUNKS AND DO NOT reap your efforts.

so INSTEAD OF ALL THE GENERIC ADVICE.............I want you to DO AN EXPERIMENT FOR ME.............CUT N PASTE THIS...........AND SEND IT TO THE NEXT 35 WOMEN.

SUBJECT LINE: "I GOT SOME BAD NEWS OR YOU.........."

EMAIL MESSAGE: all those guys that emailed you already have a girlfriend......good news is A) you are KINDA CUTE and B) I AM SINGLE!!!!


let me know if U experience any better stats than 3 out of 35.

Thats just a fraction of what U can do to TILT the odds in your favor.......trust me there is a lot more.

PICTURES-yet another skillset to master, and again lots you can do to create attraction with pix. To the douche that spewed its all about pictures......cute pictures get numbers........ITS ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE.........I got over 400 phone numbers in a 6 month period on POF......very little had to do with my picture.

I CSI'd you IM conversation............have to agree with the other posters U really don't push the evelope enough to evoke a reaction.

Part of being a social artist online or in field is to be willing to say the wrong things and still recover to attain results. The art of virtual negs especially online is a skillset VERY FEW have yet to master.

just remember;

1) PURPOSE OF the INITIAL EMAIL is to introduce yourself and trigger interest to the point where they feel compelled to respond......thats it.

2) SECONDARY EMAILS primary function is to EXTRACT further interaction and to decrease the virtual gap, transition to the phone.

3) THIRD OR FOLLOW UP EMAILS-function is for last minute resistance, make it or break it........or move on.

YOU emailed them for a reason, competition is fierce, if she read your email and responded you just beat out 75% of the competition. Giving up a phone number to a complete ONLINE stranger is a feat in itself......DO NOT UNDER-ESTIMATE THIS ACHIEVEMENT.

IF u aint feeling comfortable with my email assingment.........then do your homework.......start researching comedy, sarcasm, online dating experts, etc.......U need to increase your knowledge of how attraction works, which email template reap the most benefits, how to select specific targets whom will respond, etc, etc.

BUT DO YOURSELF A FAVOR.................COPY, PASTE..........AND MEET THEM.

The other side of the coin that many forget is............what will U do if you get 20-35 girls responding. Spinning plates is work my friend......watch what U wish for.

I WANT TO HEAR REAL SUCCESS POST, NO MORE lame "what did i do wrong" garbage.

We are here to assist........

 

[n00bPimp]

Here is another rapport building chat I tired with her. I dont get it. She just didnt respond to my last mssg.

me(11:01:49 PM)hey there
her(11:02:00 PM)hey
me(11:02:39 PM)how was your weekend?
her(11:03:07 PM)it was good, yours?
me(11:03:28 PM)lots of BBQ and fireworks....
her(11:03:47 PM)yeahhhhh
her(11:03:49 PM)mine too
me(11:04:15 PM)did you see the macy's firework display?
her(11:04:41 PM)no i didnt
her(11:04:42 PM)did you?
me(11:05:34 PM)nope....my neighbors are all pyro maniacs almost everybody was doing fireworks in my neighborhod
me(11:06:07 PM)some idiot at 2:00 oclock in the morning let off like three massive ones woke everyone up
her(11:06:15 PM)lol niceee
her(11:06:25 PM)you always have those for some reason
me(11:07:05 PM)i know....but we laughed about it later.....the best part is all the left overs
her(11:07:20 PM)lol yea
me(11:07:44 PM)do you know how to grill?
her(11:08:00 PM)ummmmmmm
her(11:08:02 PM)sure?
her(11:08:04 PM)lol
me(11:08:22 PM)lol...not sure....
me(11:08:37 PM)its not hard....and its alot of fun

she didnt respond after that

This interaction was pure garbage, seems as if you were talking to your grandma. I dont know why you even wasted your time posting it.

 

[Rescue Mission]

white girls generally don't like Indian guys....can we please stop avoiding facts??

You are a pretty good looking INDIAN guy, and that's fine.......but it's much easier for you to hook up with Indian and Middle Eastern girls, white girls are just not into Indian guys........stop trying to sell ice cream to an eskimo.

 

[n00bPimp]

white girls generally don't like Indian guys....can we please stop avoiding facts??

You are a pretty good looking INDIAN guy, and that's fine.......but it's much easier for you to hook up with Indian and Middle Eastern girls, white girls are just not into Indian guys........stop trying to sell ice cream to an eskimo.

Racist prick

 

[Rescue Mission]

Racist prick

Do you know what the word racist means?

I have nothing against Indian people, they are cool and fun and I see them the same way as all other kinds of people.

I am saying that a WHITE GIRL is generally, GENERALLY, not sexually attracted to an Indian guy. I don't know or care WHY they aren't attracted to Indian guys, but they aren't.......it's not my goddamn fault, so don't be calling ME a racist prick..........go call the white chicks racist b1tches if you want to be ignorant.

What's wrong with going for sexy indian girls again?

jesus dude, it helps to be fully logical and realistic..........don't blame ME for what makes a girl sexually attracted to a guy.

 

[n00bPimp]

Do you know what the word racist means?

I have nothing against Indian people, they are cool and fun and I see them the same way as all other kinds of people.

I am saying that a WHITE GIRL is generally, GENERALLY, not sexually attracted to an Indian guy. I don't know or care WHY they aren't attracted to Indian guys, but they aren't.......it's not my goddamn fault, so don't be calling ME a racist prick..........go call the white chicks racist b1tches if you want to be ignorant.

What's wrong with going for sexy indian girls again?

You can create attraction on any girl if you have game, nobody said theres rules. I'm sure if i asked a white girl what kind of guy do they want they'll say the usual - tall, blonde, blue eyes. But does it matter? or better yet, do they end up dating these type of guys? they end up dating the guy that has game. Ever heard of "attraction isn't a choice"?
The reason why I call you a racist is bacause you seem to be stuck on this 'stick to your own' mentallity, which is total bs.

 

[Schwank]

I cringe every time I see a thread which asks others to analyse their online conversation. DO NOT ANALYSE EVERY ****ING THING! Jesus Christ. Just be natural. If 99% of you guys just popped a couple of valiums before talking to girls you wouldn't be posting this sorta ****, because you would be getting some action! Social interaction is the only way to improve! Post after post asking others to critique your game is only adversely affecting it! **** me.

 

[harkkam08]

PAY ATTENTION................I aint a super model.......I am average at best..........but I do get laid like a rock star.

heres what you reveled...........U messaged........

"Probably like 35 women on POF and only like three responded. "

There lies the PROOF that you email messages BLOW CHUNKS AND DO NOT reap your efforts.

so INSTEAD OF ALL THE GENERIC ADVICE.............I want you to DO AN EXPERIMENT FOR ME.............CUT N PASTE THIS...........AND SEND IT TO THE NEXT 35 WOMEN.

SUBJECT LINE: "I GOT SOME BAD NEWS OR YOU.........."

EMAIL MESSAGE: all those guys that emailed you already have a girlfriend......good news is A) you are KINDA CUTE and B) I AM SINGLE!!!!


let me know if U experience any better stats than 3 out of 35.

Thats just a fraction of what U can do to TILT the odds in your favor.......trust me there is a lot more.

PICTURES-yet another skillset to master, and again lots you can do to create attraction with pix. To the douche that spewed its all about pictures......cute pictures get numbers........ITS ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE.........I got over 400 phone numbers in a 6 month period on POF......very little had to do with my picture.

I CSI'd you IM conversation............have to agree with the other posters U really don't push the evelope enough to evoke a reaction.

Part of being a social artist online or in field is to be willing to say the wrong things and still recover to attain results. The art of virtual negs especially online is a skillset VERY FEW have yet to master.

just remember;

1) PURPOSE OF the INITIAL EMAIL is to introduce yourself and trigger interest to the point where they feel compelled to respond......thats it.

2) SECONDARY EMAILS primary function is to EXTRACT further interaction and to decrease the virtual gap, transition to the phone.

3) THIRD OR FOLLOW UP EMAILS-function is for last minute resistance, make it or break it........or move on.

YOU emailed them for a reason, competition is fierce, if she read your email and responded you just beat out 75% of the competition. Giving up a phone number to a complete ONLINE stranger is a feat in itself......DO NOT UNDER-ESTIMATE THIS ACHIEVEMENT.

IF u aint feeling comfortable with my email assingment.........then do your homework.......start researching comedy, sarcasm, online dating experts, etc.......U need to increase your knowledge of how attraction works, which email template reap the most benefits, how to select specific targets whom will respond, etc, etc.

BUT DO YOURSELF A FAVOR.................COPY, PASTE..........AND MEET THEM.

The other side of the coin that many forget is............what will U do if you get 20-35 girls responding. Spinning plates is work my friend......watch what U wish for.

I WANT TO HEAR REAL SUCCESS POST, NO MORE lame "what did i do wrong" garbage.

We are here to assist........

Im game dude. Im going to try that tonight and report back on what happens.

I personally dont care if white chicks like indian dudes or not, Im going to try and go down in flames if I have to. I've seen many interracial couples and Im not going to avoid white chicks if some or a lot of them dont want indian guys, I'll keep looking for the ones that do or are open to that.

Yeah that convo sucked, I know it did. I could feel it inside me, it wasnt fun but she wasnt saying a damn word so it was hard to make anything of it. It was kind of annoying like pulling teeth. I was asking interesting things like

"whats the stupidest pick up line you have ever heard" and all she said was "oh I dont pay attention to them"

like wtf..she didnt make any effort to say anything interesting, and came off as boring.

 

[omkara]

I hear ya man. I can be extremely witty when I'm talking to an intelligent girl, but if I talk to a girl who makes no effort, it's not fun and it's lame. I'm thinking of nexting those ones.

Like for example, I chatted with this girl recently and I was like what's up, and she said 'not too much.' And didn't say anything else or ask how I was doing. Neither of us said anything for like half an hour and then I tried a little more. A little too small of a sample to base a conclusion on, but usually the girls that are fun to talk to give me more to work with.

 

[BananaSmile]

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use a webcam

 

[harkkam08]

Well so far I messaged 15 girls. 4 of them have read the message COD suggested I try the other 11 havent read the message yet

But None have responded. Here is my profile, lol I really am starting to think it could be my looks.

http://www.plentyoffish.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=20595658

Here are the profiles of the girls I messaged to give you an idea of who Im going after.

http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20714247.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member15997658.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member19684712.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20595002.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20784724.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20736553.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member19690451.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member15454319.htm

You get the idea..

Here are the girls that actually messaged me and I didnt send them anything.

http://www.plentyoffish.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=20571170

^ holy **** thats nasty

http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20557228.htm

^ not bad but too young for me

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The girl that I was chatting with which this thread is about

http://www.plentyoffish.com/member19345373.htm

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Is it my looks guys that are getting me nothing?

 

[Rescue Mission]

Well so far I messaged 15 girls. 4 of them have read the message COD suggested I try the other 11 havent read the message yet

But None have responded. Here is my profile, lol I really am starting to think it could be my looks.

http://www.plentyoffish.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=20595658

Here are the profiles of the girls I messaged to give you an idea of who Im going after.

http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20714247.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member15997658.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member19684712.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20595002.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20784724.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20736553.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member19690451.htm
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member15454319.htm

You get the idea..

Here are the girls that actually messaged me and I didnt send them anything.

http://www.plentyoffish.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=20571170

^ holy **** thats nasty

http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20557228.htm

^ not bad but too young for me

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The girl that I was chatting with which this thread is about

http://www.plentyoffish.com/member19345373.htm

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Is it my looks guys that are getting me nothing?

You are a good looking indian dude, but you need to understand (and this isn't ME speaking), but white women, as a majority, instantly disqualify indian guys just because they are indian.

Honestly, as a white guy, I instantly disqualify indian GIRLS just because they are unattractive to me plain and simple....they just have no chance of physically attracting me....my d1ck cannot get hard for an indian girl, THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME.

Just tell me, why are you going for white girls who clearly disqualify you right away for being indian, instead of going for some sexy indian girls? Are you not attracted to Indian girls??

It's one of the facts that all of the online PUA artists who sell you products want you to ignore, but white girls for the most part have no sexual attraction to indian guys from the get-go, thus no amount of game will get a white chick wanting to be fvcked by you.

But to hell with white chicks, they think like that, you can't change their mindsets...........like I said before, are you not attracted to indian and middle eastern girls???

By the way, the only way to get white girls if you are an indian guy, is to be like Matador (Mystery's friend who is indian).......just to be cool, laid back, jacked, and overall radiate that you are a P.I.M.P.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvpFPIUl4hg

 

[Alanon]

Just throwing it out there. Stop trying to attract women on the internet. The beauty of the cold approach is there's nothing to hold you back except you. Failure doesn't exist as long as you try. Cut the strings that bind you. Do it in baby steps, but I suggest taking alot of baby steps as fast as you can.

 

[DJ_Someday]

Haha well isn't it a good thing Rescue Mission is a dude and you're not trying to attract him? Although with that BS mentality I doubt anyone would want to if he was a girl anyway haha.

OP, I joined this place in 2006, my username was/is DJ_Someday. Idk why it didn't let me log in though ! Sad face! Anyway, I registered again just to tell you this:

Looks are NOT that important in the online game. I'll be honest I used to go to the gym religiously but now my knee is injured and has been for 8 months. I'm on the chubby side now, I probably look more indian than you do or at least to the same degree (or Mexican, I've gotten both). A lot of people say my face is good looking though, but definitely nothing special. And I tell you this sincerely, cute at best.

I've probably failed with like what, 100 girls? possibly more, but I've succeeded with at least 20 (and I'm sure if I count them it's more, but this is not a brag post) and out of those 15 are the way I like women the most: White skin, green or blue eyes and blonde or brown hair. Cute smiles too, I just passed 2 with a decent smile but I'm into perfect teeth lol.

All I'm saying is, do not be discouraged by the way you look. I checked your profile and I have to admit your latest picture is MUCH better than the mirror one, I'd just get rid of the mirror one because it looks like your attitude was "Oh well, gotta take a pic >.>...".

This is growing too long. All I can say is be funny and fun. "What do you do for fun?" as silly as it sounds is a question that can open many gates. 8 out of 10 girls will list some/a lot of hobbies and you can work with that, the remaining 2 will prolly say "idk anything" or something like that. They're usually next material unless they're slutty . Haha.

Okay! That's all, good luck man and please, remove that mentality that your looks matter that much on online interactions and Puh-leasseee remove that bs about white chicks not wanting indian guys. If you buy that sh!t, they WILL reject you, but just because you set yourself up for it.

If I've gotten around to do it, believe me, you and anyone can. Keep at it! Good luck!

 

[jophil28]

me(11:07:44 PM)do you know how to grill?
her(11:08:00 PM)ummmmmmm
her(11:08:02 PM)sure?
her(11:08:04 PM)lol
me(11:08:22 PM)lol...not sure....
me(11:08:37 PM)its not hard....and its alot of fun

she didnt respond after that

She interpreted your question about Bar B Q as a precursor to your asking her out. You caught her off guard - note how she fumbled and stumbled in her replies.
She is certainly showing no eagerness to take this to a 'one on one'.
Until she surrenders her phone number willingly, she will block any attempt by you to connect up.
This might take a while.

 

[r0cky]

http://www.plentyoffish.com/member20557228.htm

^ not bad but too young for me

Really? you're only 23 years old bro wake the **** up. i mean seriously i think that girl is hot, and if she contacted you it means shes interested and doesnt care about your age. Even if she was too young, which shes not, what do you have to lose by talking to her? Are you afraid you'll fall in love with someone younger than you? or do you just want to protect your ego by leaving it as 'she likes you' and you wont talk to her bc she might not like you anymore?

 

[harkkam08]

So I shouldnt hit on white girls online?

I think in real life I could right?

I just broke up with a girl that was really hot, and this indian girl that msg me looks like ass compared to my ex.

I feel sad that Ive lost my ex who was what I wanted. She was tall and had a model body and mongolian looking.

Yeah that mirror picture doesnt look happy, and willing. I think I need a smiling happy picture.

To be honest that girl that msg me doesnt do it for me. Not compared to my ex who was so hot. Its like damn now I have to settle for this.