one more for the gurus

[morisson]

okay well, here's another question related to attraction.

one thing you should do is generating a state of attraction in the chick, at the first few moments of meeting her. the most "important" thing when deciding on the approach is no longer "motivating" yourself and giving yourself a hunderd reasons on why you should go and talk to that girl, the most important thing as i see it now, is focusing on how to generate that attraction in the girl when you first do that approach. because if you "ust" sum up all your courage and go and talk to the girl, focusing on yourself, and actually admiring yourself to be bold enough to have made that approach, well, this isnt enough to get you anywhere with that woman especially if she was a 9 or 10. you need to do something specific during that approach, something that will trigger her attraction towards you during those first few seconds. as someone said, the woman decides whether she wants to sleep with you or not in the first 30 seconds.

my question is: what would you do (and not do) during your approach, in order to attract the woman, and have the upper hand leading through the later stages?

note: that includes her giving your her number on that first meeting too.


waiting for the gurus to answer!

 

[biker_gixxer]

One thing I will never do is give away my power. Giving her compliments, putting her on a pedestal, buying her drinks, acting clingy or desparate, all big mistakes. Keeping away from this frame of mind will spark her interest by itself because 99.9% of the guys out there will do exactly everything I just mentioned.

Now that I have her attention, I will bust on her and give her a hard time (in a playful manner of course). She'll know that I won't bow down to her, that I'm not intimiated by her and that she'll need to work for my attention.

Once we have the playful banter going (which women love) I'll leave at the height of the interaction, but I'll tell her to write her email and/or number down before I go.

As far as the later stages go, just keep up everything i said in the 2nd paragraph.

If you want specifics, throw a scenario at me...

 

[morisson]

thanks dude!

in fact, you have just told me what NOT to do. can you give me more ideas about something you can DO actively to spark up her attraction level, say in a bar/club?

 

[biker_gixxer]

I'll tell you what I do.

First thing I do is wear something that gets attention. For example, I have a black shirt with the words 'I'm just here to get laid' written in white letters on my chest. I got so much attention the first nght i had it on, lol.

Next thing, it's all about body language. You want to come across as cool, confident and totally under control. Separate yourself from the crowd (the clingy dorks with one to many drinks in them) by leaning back and being relaxed. Try to get some eye contact, or eye $ex as I like to call it. Be sure you hold the look though, don't look away first.

If i've gotten some eye contact and I know a girl is interested by her body language, I'll nod my head and call her over. Sounds ****y, but it works like a charm...

 

[morisson]

girls never "hold" eye contact with me. only a fraction of the second in which you cant do anything. unfortunately i'd have to be the one approaching out of nothing, thats why im asking this question!

 

[Lifeforce]

One thing I wouldn't do is to "create" attraction when I am with the girl. I'd walk to her and start to talk to her if I find something cool to start it up with... give her a compliment, telling a joke, making a statement, teasing.. whatever... if she seems cool then I stay with her.. otherwise I find an excuse to leave.

 

[biker_gixxer]

Originally posted by morisson
girls never "hold" eye contact with me. only a fraction of the second in which you cant do anything. unfortunately i'd have to be the one approaching out of nothing, thats why im asking this question!

Girls in clubs/bars are usually on the defense bro, don't be discouraged by quick eye contact.

Lifeforce is right on target when he said making a comment or teasing. If you say the right things, you will bring their defense down 10 fold.

I remember being in a club one night and making fun of a girl because of the way she was walking (arched back trying to show her t*ts). Her friend saw me and started cracking up. This of course was a perfect chance to strike up a conversation....

You have to look for opportunities...

 

[morisson]

Originally posted by biker_gixxer
Girls in clubs/bars are usually on the defense bro, don't be discouraged by quick eye contact.

Lifeforce is right on target when he said making a comment or teasing. If you say the right things, you will bring their defense down 10 fold.

I remember being in a club one night and making fun of a girl because of the way she was walking (arched back trying to show her t*ts). Her friend saw me and started cracking up. This of course was a perfect chance to strike up a conversation....

You have to look for opportunities...

if you say the right things

what are teh right things

 

[biker_gixxer]

Anything C&F (****y and funny)...

 

[morisson]

just to be more annoying to you guys

other than the obvious example of double your dating, where can you find a big collection or C&F stuff and also how to create your own? in DYD david doesnt give you a lot of these and he just talks about them, we need something more concrete!

 

[Alphathree]

C&F is not the answer. You're not following a path that's going to serve you.

 

[morisson]

so if C&F is not what you should do on an approach, then what should you do?

 

[biker_gixxer]

Experiment a little, try different methods, see what you feel comfortable with.

C&F works for me all the time. I have married women, girls in relationships wanting to bang me. I'm not saying it will happen because I don't need this type of drama, but C&F gets that attraction going on their part.

 

[RockstarPUA]

To build attraction you have to Display High Value.

You have to demonstrate that you have an awesome personality and that you lead an interesting and intriguing lifestyle.

You can tell a story about something shes wearing, how it reminds you of something this girl was wearing when you went skydiving or when you were in vegas.

Tell stories, be C&F, and just bust on her like she was your little sister.

The reason why you tell these stories isn't to try and impress her, its to let her see your real awesome fun personality at work. Women love stories. This is basic Mystery Method.

Also, by just telling stories and joking around you are seperating yourself from like 90% of the guys in the bar that come up and say "can I buy you a drink?" or "What do you do?".

Once you have her attracted then you ask questions and show attraction for her and build comfort.

Hope I've helped.

For more info on this you can find everything you could ever dream of on attraction at www.fastseduction.com . Sosuave isn't the best place to be asking this question. The guys on the MASF forum (fastseduction.com) are much more knowledgeable about game and attraction than the guys here.

~Rockstar

 

[Spirit Fingers]

Your question is a very broad one. It is basically the purpose of sites like sosuave and ASF.

RockstarPUA has it right -- in order to attract a girl, you must display high value. There a different ways to do this. C&F and Mystery Method are one way.

The way in which I create attraction is called Natural Game. It emphasizes spontaneity, directness, mutual value escalation, and having a strong intent with the woman. Some techniques used are screening the woman to see if she meets your standards, and establishing frames where you are dominant both verbally and non-verbally.

I realize this is very vague, but to fully answer your question would take dozens of pages. For more detail, check out my blog.

-Dan