On Which Level Are You???

librito

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I cant remember who wrote this or where I founded but I decided to post it anyways...
ON WHICH LEVEL ARE YOU??????????

A WBAFC (Way Below Average Frustrated Chump)...
Is a virgin and thinks women should be "respected".
Has never kissed a woman in his life, doesn't know how.
Is sexually repressed in someway; doesn't understand how guys get laid and thinks its wrong to **** women, even if he wants to.
Couldn't get laid in ***** house with $5,000 in his pocket.
Gets his nails "colored" in order to feel (at least once in his life) what it would be like if a chick was spanking his monkey for him.
Becomes uneasy or embarrassed when talking about sex. Thinks thongs are gross.
Sings along to the lyrics of AFC songs out loud and watches way too many Hollywood romantic comedies.
Gets sweaty and nervous if a woman even looks at him.
Believes his problem is he hasn't "blossomed" yet
...or worse, doesn't know he has a problem.
Jacks off to Japanese comics.
Thinks "be yourself" actually means "be yourself".
Has had at least 10 crushes on chicks he's never talked to, and is well on his way to 5 more
...before finally realizing he might have an issue (that he hasn't yet met the "right girl").
Thinks players exist only in fantasy...
...if he even knows what a player is.
Thinks the character "Ross" on the TV Show "Friends" is a player.
A BAFC (Below Average Frustrated Chump)...

Thinks he might have a problem
...but doesn't know what the problem is.
Bases his perception of romantic love on what he sees in movies.
He believes in "fate" and thinks the advice "being yourself" is gold...he thinks someday he'll magically meet his dream HB and they'll live happily ever after.
Dresses GQ but talks to dudes all day.
Realizes players exist, but thinks the lifestyle is evil or to be scorned.
Believes that Playboy's "playmates" are not really like other women, because when unfolding the centerfold he blurts internally, "Oh Anna-Marie, you are so beautiful you just can't be one of them. I love you so much I should bless you footsteps wherever you go! Muah!".
When his AFC friends just say "hi" to chicks, he thinks they are players.
Has never heard the term "alpha male".
A AFC (Average Frustrated Chump)...

Knows he has a problem attracting chicks
...thinks he'll eventually solve it by doing the same things over-and-over
...or that one day Oprah will give him that one piece of advice that will make the difference.
Knows players exist, secretly wishes to be one, doesn't know how.
Has heard the phrase "Let's Just Be Friends" from just about every chick he's taken out on a date.
Depends on luck for all his success.
Has that "one girl" he's trying to figure out how to get.
May have found mASF but still can't admit to himself he's an AFC
...or miraculously realizes how great a PUA he is already is going to become as when he can finally PU that one special girl after reading stuff in ASF for 30 seconds. All he has to do is just post one request for advice on the forum and start it with "This isn't one-itis, but there's this one girl who..."

GPUA Levels
A rAFC (Average Frustrated Chump, starting path to recovery)... [GPUA-1]
Has finally gotten past the stage in his life of having "crushes" on chicks, but still occasionally falls into the one-itis trap.
Doesn’t currently have one-itis, but stays in touch with his ex-GF (who nexted him a year ago...so he claims it's not one-itis).
Thinks masturbation is OK, but would like to and will try to **** a chick once in a while at least for the sake of meeting some new people!
Has found mASF and admitted to himself he's an AFC.
Has asked where to find the "Elvis opener" / "newbie mission" at least once
...and has succesfully field tested the one of them, with his mother!!!
Still doesn't know what the Universal Opener is.
Thinks a 6 is a HB but at least is starting to approach more women.
Sees rejection as a bad thing.
Has # closed 10 girls, but all have the same number... 911.
Can’t distinguish a flake from a real date...yet.
Stuck on doing canned openers, isn't aware that openers can be dynamic.
Has turned "****!, I ****ed it up again!" into his "preferential" recurrent chorus. But hey, at least he's in first line of fire!
Is actively working his way to be a GPUA-2 / RAFC.
A RAFC (Recovering Average Frustrated Chump)... [GPUA-2]

Is able to notice falling into the one-itis trap, but is able to control himself in order to move forward.
Takes everything he's learned as rAFC and begins to take real actions.
Knows what the Universal Opener is but still doesn't know its power.
Knows how to get a lot of number closes and is happy about it
...until he finds out firsthand how flaky almost all women can be.
Has stopped kicking himself over mistakes in the field.
Is on his way to curing himself of all aspects of one-itis.
Is actively working his way to be a GPUA-3 / GPUA.
A GPUA (Green Pick-UP Artist)... [GPUA-3]

Is approaching as many women as he can.
Is contact closing regularly and finally understands the flake dichotomy.
...and deals with it properly when he does encounter it.
Can post interesting field reports and is enthusiastic for feedback when he does.
Is starting to pull off dynamic openers.
Is happy to be constantly learning from his mistakes.
Is finally cured of all past one-itis, is able to detect the onset of it
...and stops it dead in its tracks.
Has gotten his first lay (with a HB6+ chick) without much dependence on luck - working it almost entirely through his conscious actions
...and is well on his way to banging more with the same repeat of skill.
Honestly believes for the first time he is already becoming a PUA.
Can reasonably PU in "street" environments (not just bar, club, or party)
...but may not prefer it (meaning, he has the CHOICE/OPTION).
Is able to provide useful advice to others on their path to improvement.
Is actively working his way to be a PUA.

PUA Levels
A PUA / Natural (Pick-Up Artist or "Player")... [PUA-1]
Can successfully PU chicks on his own, without wings, even in street PU.
Can get lays from chicks that he's never met before and "cold" PU'd.
Understands AI / IAI and the "natural" mindset, but doesn't depend on it.
Structures PU with a systematic "toolbox" mindset.
Catches himself thinking "Naaaaaaahhhh, I won't post that LR. Looks too similar to that other one I posted last weak... and the chick wasn't more than a 8.5... ".
Is actually congruent internally/externally when doing PU.
Knows the distinction between attraction and seduction
...and knows how to manage each stage to optimize his PU experience
...or is capable of melding the 2 into 1 cohesive framework.
Knows how to manage his internal state consistently to great effect.
Has methods an know-how which could make a big impact on uASF/mASF/FS101
...and which other (regular) guys can learn to use regularly and successfully.
Is at least maintaining his skills as a PUA regularly.

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A PUE/PUG (Pick-Up Expert/Guru)... [PUA-2]

Is a PUA who's also become specialized in a specific form of PU to the point of a consistently high success rate in that niche.
Is conscious enough of his methods and skills to be able to teach them, whether he chooses to or not.
A guy can be a PUG in a specific method, environment, or kind of chick.
E.g. RJ is a PUG for SS, TokyoPUA is a PUG for street PU and also Asian chicks.
A PUM (Pick-up Master)... [PUA-2]

Is a top-form PUA, reaching the highest levels of skill in all areas and may also be specialized in a specific form of PU, but not necessarily.
Can be a PUE/PUG as well as being a PUM.
Can PU in street and clubs/bars equally well, environment does not pose a challenge to him.
Knows how to utilize an "ultimate frame" and the ability to re-frame anything and everything to his advantage.
Has experienced thoughts such as: "Oh well, my primary was out of the city and I ignored my secondaries as I wanted to bang again that SHB 10, just to know if she deserved to become one of my FBs... but then I thought maybe I'd rather go to the bar with my friends and play pool... "
Always draws women into HIS reality, not the other way around.
Gives advice that only PUAs are able to pick up quickly.
Gives advice so beyond "normal" reality that it makes GPUAs take pause.
Looks at the game on a much higher level; it is all abstracted to him.
No longer needs "practice" as his life is the perpetual essence of PU.
 

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I found this post extremly intresting to read and thought it could be good but its just to long i cant cary on listining to you describing a WBAFC any longer!!!
 

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extremely helpful post. helps me see how far i've come. i'm a GPUA-3 according to that, and making progress to a PUA!
 

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Im sure Ive read this before somewhere, think may be mASF. Nevertheless interesting stuff.

Found this board, and first started my path to DJism 1.5 years ago. Come along way since then, id say green PUA 3. Extremely grateful to this board. Was completely clueless about girls before, probably WBAFC. Now Im one those "cool" guys. Its true dammit!!!

What this board i.e. the bible is good at is changing how you look at things. And gives you a set of principals to live by. Seduction material like SS etc dont do that. The principles allow you to govern your actions, your thoughts with confidence. And thus allow you to develop the qualities of a leader.

What I noticed was that first I became opinionated. Then my opinion was respected by my friends. I came to lead my close group of friends. Then expand social circles as people see you as an independent cool dude. And it just keeps workin for you. The hardest part is at the start and getting rid of unhelpful ideologies and routines you may become attached to i.e the nice guy syndrome. When you realise its not really about chicks (who fkn needs em anyways) is when things start happening for you.

I really do believe that many members of this board will go on to be successful respected leaders of men one day. We could be the freemasons of the future.

sosuave for life. amen.
 

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I'm GOD-3. Which means I'm a Below Average Immortal who is learning the basics of the ability to smite thee who are wicked. But I have problems deciding who should be smited and who shouldn't. I recently made a mistake during Labor Day when I was playing around with some clouds in the Gulf of Mexico.
 

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I wonder were they would stick me:

Has respect for women
Has no trouble getting laid/high success rate in my nisches.
Have crushes and doesn't try to kill them because it's awesome to get a chick who you fancy even if it is a STR.
Would never understand what my mind was saying if I said "My primary is out-...."
Have not a structured mindset/(ie just go with the gut)
Draws women into my reality
Wouldn't be able to give good advice about something even if someone put a gun to my head because I only know what I am doing when I do it.
Thinking "Should I post this LR, I flex much less than in the last one."
Doesn't make picking up women a central role of my life
Get bored by women who flake and just give up and go to the next girl
Doesn't need to maintain skill because I don't have any skill
Believe strongly in the "Just be yourself and improve"
 

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Originally posted by DonJuanMonk
I'm GOD-3. Which means I'm a Below Average Immortal who is learning the basics of the ability to smite thee who are wicked. But I have problems deciding who should be smited and who shouldn't. I recently made a mistake during Labor Day when I was playing around with some clouds in the Gulf of Mexico.
Hey, sh!t happens. Just maintain 3 seconds of solid eye contact next time. You'll be alright.
 

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Originally posted by Lifeforce
I wonder were they would stick me:

Has respect for women
Has no trouble getting laid/high success rate in my nisches.
Have crushes and doesn't try to kill them because it's awesome to get a chick who you fancy even if it is a STR.
Would never understand what my mind was saying if I said "My primary is out-...."
Have not a structured mindset/(ie just go with the gut)
Draws women into my reality
Wouldn't be able to give good advice about something even if someone put a gun to my head because I only know what I am doing when I do it.
Thinking "Should I post this LR, I flex much less than in the last one."
Doesn't make picking up women a central role of my life
Get bored by women who flake and just give up and go to the next girl
Doesn't need to maintain skill because I don't have any skill
Believe strongly in the "Just be yourself and improve"
This is me too.....no to sound like a douchebag liberal (no i'm not conservative, i'm nothing) but there are more levels and dimensions to life than just AFC's and DJ's. This is one of the main things I think needs to be worked out on this site
 

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I think such a scale is too linear and doesn't take into account that people make have different strengths and weaknesses that they are working on.


But to try to fit into the scale, I'm probably something between AFC and RAFC (there, I said it).

But:

- I know there's more to it than luck.
- A "6" is not attractive. My standards are high. Personality plays a part as well.
- I don't get "one-itis."
- I understand why the Universal Opener is great. Just that sometimes I don't know what I'd say afterwards, since it's often not clear what the topic of discussion should be.

The only real thing preventing me from progressing is that approaches are hard because A) I don't see many women in my age group every week (like two or three, maybe...not even that sometimes), and B) when I happen to see one there usually isn't a clear-cut topic to discuss.


Ben
 

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The universal opener:

The universal opener is effective, but less so in friendly places. I live in Georgia where most are friendly and have social grace. I think UO needs to be mixed with "sexually motivated eye contact." You cant just say
Hi and expect her to be all over ya....My whole game is based on self respect, self-efficacy, positivity, and situational observation..... That is all anyone needs.
My level of game doesn't exist; it's in my head.
 
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