On Texting And Cold Approaches

[Maximus Rex]

Is it a generational thing, but I seem to view texting as a crutch and a cop out. For me at least, the phone is analogous to a hammer. A hammer is a tool used to build things. For a the phone is tool used facilitating contact with a chick so that make arrangements to see her at some time in the future. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm not a texter and I damn sure don't want to get into long a$$ text conversations with females.

Reason being, is that there's certain subtle nuances and IOI's (body langague,) that can only be picked up in live interactions, also the same is true in for phone conversations to a lesser extend.

Yet instill I see guys on here trying to intrept and disect text messages. I see text messaging as a "virtual barrier," between myself and the target. Trying to run game via texting, doesn't mean anything to me, because it doesn't seem real. The text message doesn't respresent a person, but more of rainbow after a rainstrom. It looks pretty, but we can so wrapped into chasing it until it eventually disappers.

I need face-to-face contact. I need to see how you're responding to my game, I need you right there in front of me, so I see if I proceed forward, or make an adjustment. For all you guys that insist upon texting, could you please explain to me how, you can dicipher these subtlities, when all you have is words on a small LCD screem.

Also, I detect a slight adverision to cold approaches on Sosuave. If you guys aren't doing cold approaches, where the hell are you meeting woman at? It one of the fundamental premises of pick up is the ability to approach woman we have no familiarity with and get them to like us? If you're not doing cold approaches, aren't you SEVERELY limiting the woman of you're coming into contact with? How can you get better, if you're not approaching? Again, I need somebody to explain these things to me. Thanks.

 

[Player87]

I agree


Texting is like a pestilence to gaming. Verizon and AT&T may want you to think that it is an innovation that helps bring people together quicker and easier on a social level, but that can't be further from the truth.

Even TALKING on the phone degrades your power to game effectively, here's proof:

Talking to a woman face to face allows you to utilize all of the aspects of your game to their full potential. You can use body language, eye contact, vocal tone, physical contact, the works.

Now when you get on the phone and talk to a woman, body language, eye contact, and touching are taken out of the mix... but at least you still can express things through speech and vocal tone.

Next we have texting, which continue the trend of degrading REAL social interaction by even removing your ability to express your game with your voice... and replaces it with ****ing smiley faces and lame substitutes for real expressions.

This is ridiculous, because even if you have very potent game in person and your little smirk can send chills down her spine when you are right there in front of her... over a text your smirk becomes nothing more than a dumb ass which is the same thing she sees from every other guy. You can't stand out via text because it is digitally delivered to her in the same fashion that everyone who texts her. Essentially, it lowers you down to the level of any other AFC that she may be communicating with because the foundation texting is built upon does not allow your game to be expressed as it should, even in the slightest.

I've got a keypad on my phone, even a really cool touch screen one (I got the BlackBerry Storm2)... but the only time I ever use it is when I've saving someone's number into my phone and type their name.

When a woman texts you, write her back and tell her to call you because texting is boring. If she's an average chick, do it with a compliment: "Call me instead of texting, I want to hear your sexy voice, it turns me on baby ", and if she is a hot babe, do it proactively and show some value, or use a neg. No matter what method you use, avoid texting at all costs, it is a blight on gaming and will make your job 10 times more difficult no matter how many stupid acronyms you know how to use.

 

[Gray The Prince]

It's a generational thing, for you older guys, texting isn't really a thing for yall. But having good text game is a staple for younger DJs game. Most young girls don't like talking on the phone and text thousands of messages a week.

 

[Iceberg]

The problem with texting isn't the usage of it. It's that a lot of these guys engage in text conversations.

You'll see them re-posting their text conversations on Sosuave and it'll be like a series of 20 back-and-forth texts. If you're going to use text, make it for quick concise messages. "How was your weekend? Let's do drinks this Thursday." Not just some random "What's up."

Gray has a point. A lot of girls don't want to be tied up in phone conversations these days. Which is good...because neither do I. I like the quickness of setting up a date with one text rather than spending 15, 20, 30 minutes chit-chatting and then setting the date.

 

[iliketennis]

i need to have more phone conversations.

 

[arghx7]

You have many valid points, but unfortunately society is moving from the [dare I say it] old ways. I'm 26 and I'm dealing with girls in their mid 20s. I have recently "given in" to text messaging. Half the time when you call a chick she won't answer, then respond with a text message. It's frustrating but after a while there's not much you can do about it.

And yes I cold approached this chick last week. They will almost always give you their number, like 90+ % of the time. Then they will figure out a way to blow you off later if they're not interested.

On the flip side, I made out with this one random chick this most recent New Year's. Somehow I gave her my business card and she texted me two days later. The problem was, well, I had beer goggles on. I ended up not texting her back.

 

[Maximus Rex]

But having good text game is a staple for younger DJs game..

What the f*ck is "good text," game?

Most young girls don't like talking on the phone and text thousands of messages a week.

Isn't that where your game comes in? It's your world and you control the frame. If you put it down right and she likes you, she's going to what to communicate with you on YOUR PREFERED method of communication. If you ask me, allowing her to dictate her you commuciate sets a bad precedent for other bad behavior. To me, this texting thing seems like a sh*t test, that you all seem to be failing.

I like the quickness of setting up a date with one text rather than spending 15, 20, 30 minutes chit-chatting and then setting the date.

Why are you spending more than 15 minutes on the phone with a chick?

 

[Iceberg]

Why are you spending more than 15 minutes on the phone with a chick?

Oh I don't. But even in the rare occasion that I spend 15, it's exhausting. I'm just not that kind of guy who wants to sit around with a piece of plastic glued to my ear conversing with people.

I get home from work, and I think to myself "Okay I have to cook. I want to work out. I want to read / watch a movie." The phone thing is just a total disruption to my day.

It's not even just about girls. It could be you calling me, and I'd be like "Ah crap. Maximus called. Now I gotta return a damn phone call." I'd much rather get a text saying "Lets get beers at 8pm" instead of a call. I'm not a phone talker. Not my thing. And it's had zero impact on my game.

We often have a tendency to overanalyze things here. And I think text vs. phone is one of those things. Texting isn't a sh*t test. Just the mere mention of it makes me think you take it a bit too seriously.

 

[crazyboy]

This how i do it i text her to basically to get her my number then with that text im pretty much say i that dude you met wherever.

Then ill give her call for a date. now this when game come in. This when you actually probably **** a girl before going date rather wasting your time on date. if your game is right and girl horny you might be at her place for a "movie".

Now face is probably my best advantage cause i am a good looking dude. im pretty muscular and got decent enough cash flow for a college student anyway lol. so i pretty much prefer face to face. so i can put my arm around her waist and chat her up or feel her up. whatever im the mood for.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Good = assuming a girl is into until proven otherwise
Bad= Not recognizing signs of disinterest and wasting time going forward
Ugly= Failing to act on signs of interest and getting pushed into the friendzone.

You say she's into you by the way she looks at you = ok that's a semi- passive action.

"You get good conversations going over text" = bad you can't have a conversation over text and anyone who suggest as much doesn't have the first clue about conversations.

Text allows you to say off the wall stuff without the scrutiny of having your body language conveyed, nor mmood, tone etc.

Texting can be used to whet the appetite or make innuedo or get a girl excited, but having a conversation via text is non starter.

Texting and phones are for women
Men do things face to face.

Yes we have to use phones but gabbing away on a phone is garbage or texting for any period of time above a small exchange is no way to go.

Now assuming that you are correct jsut invite her out. It's time to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Either she is an attention hoor or she is interested.

If she was really into you, she would've long f**ked you. You better f**k her or she's just gonna be an attention wh0re to you. Texting doesn't mean sh*t. If a girl was really into you, she'd be moving mountains to see you. A girl wouldn't forget a date with Brad Pitt, now would she?

You are guilty of failure to read actions and loveless texting. The fine for this is 2 blue balls, one beaten shaft, and a long trip to Nopoonani, Tennessee. I'm also gonna fly you to Platonictown, West Virginia.

You better f**k this girl or she'll find someone else who will (Easily done BTW). Start reading a woman's signals and signs. If you don't know them, your ass better learn them quickly. Pook has a w0manese post or two. Check them out. Case closed.

If she was really into you, she would've long f**ked you. You better f**k her or she's just gonna be an attention wh0re to you. Texting doesn't mean sh*t. If a girl was really into you, she'd be moving mountains to see you. A girl wouldn't forget a date with Brad Pitt, now would she?

You are guilty of failure to read actions and loveless texting. The fine for this is 2 blue balls, one beaten shaft, and a long trip to Nopoonani, Tennessee. I'm also gonna fly you to Platonictown, West Virginia.

Texts have very little to no value in determining sexual interest level.

I didn't want to jack dude's thread so I'll brought these quotes to mine with a more germaine topic. 411, Nismo, and st_99 seems to be in agreement with me concerning texting. So I'll ask you guys.

1) Why isn't that newbies to sosuave are so insistent upon texting?

2) How come damn near every day some guy comes on here wanting to have a text intrepreted or seeking advice on how to do something via texting?

3) Why are these dudes allowing women to dictate the terms in which communication is going to take place?

4) Why are these dudes so afraid to talk to a woman on the phone.

5) Don't these guys realize that she's probably having five other texting conversations along with yours?

6) Are these dudes really getting dates and sex mainly from texting?

The reason why I'm so adament against texting is because The Mystery Method is based upon being able to intrepret the subtle signals a woman sends and act accordingly. You either escalate or if she isn't being compliant, figure out where you are in the seduction. Then you laid it back a little or freeze her out to get compliance. I for the life of me can't figure out how these dudes are making the necessary adjustments via texts.

Maybe it's dude to my experience with women too. I know that nothing really counts with a chick unless you have her right there in front of you. Phone conversations, texting, web cam chats, are meaningless. It's about what happening when she's right there in front of you.

I need you text junkies to come in and school on texting. I personally see the sh*t as a waste of time.

 

[bilboteabaggins]

bottom line, texting can be used to score pvssy, most younger girls these days won't even answer calls or want to talk on the phone anyways

 

[bigneil]

I had an LDR and texting was an essential part of the romance. She averaged 25 messages per day for 3 months. However, we would periodically (once or twice a week) talk on the phone. When I would ask her to fly to visit, I would always call her. When I went to see her and wanted to confirm, I called her. In most cases she called me, like when she had a big day at work or something - you want to know you are their "go to" guy in such moments. Also, you must hear their voice when asking them out.

In terms of deciphering text messages, try keeping a log in a word doc of her all of text messages. After a few months, you can read them like "body language" only it's "text language". At key points of the romance they will subconsciously use certain words like "love", "happy" and the heart (<3) for example, and later you can gauge their intentions and mood by when they use those words again.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Burn that **** or delete it from your hard drive. Honestly. As long as your still taking most of your advice from the 'seduction community' and people like 'Mystery' and 'Style' you'll never view yourself, women or the world like a true Don Juan should.

The Mystery Method still places too much emphasis on pleasing the girl (e.g wowing the girl with lame magic tricks) instead of just having fun. Ultimately the girl is the prize, not yourself-seriously read it properly and you'll see what I mean. As long as you have this mindset you're still trapped in an endless loop of trying to impress others instead of yourself.

Have you read 'The Game'? Mystery is pretty pathetic throughout most of the book although when I first read it (before my great awakening-through this site, DJs like Pook and Anti Dump, and even David DeAngelo) he seemed like someone to aspire towards. The focus of his life is still on picking up chicks and defining himself on that basis. Do you really want to take dating advice from someone like that?

So how am I suppose to open a chick and approach her if she's in a group? I'm sure there's something in the Mystery Method that doesn't apply to me. I yet to find out what that thing is. If you've noticed all of these guys say said over and over again, that pick up is only suppose to compliment your life, not be your life. Mystery and Style don't define themselves on their ability to pick up women. Their ability to pickup women is a very small facet of their lives.

bottom line, texting can be used to score pvssy, most younger girls these days won't even answer calls or want to talk on the phone anyways

How can it score you some p*ssy? If a chick won't talk to you over the phone, then something went wrong in your initial meeting. I'll be damned if I let a chick dictate on how I'm going to communicate with her.